CookieMonster:
Those who can’t, like you and the OP, stay where you are and make excuses.
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Personal preference not excuse. I seen a worker who was eager like you and the boss treated him like donkey. I want to be happy not donkey
Reef:
Carryfast:
What is certain from the numerous relentless adverts is that there seems to be no major enthusiastic take up of such jobs by the employers’ favoured tool of the use of immigrant labour.Driver shortage indeed.Yes for the wrong type of work.Talking your usual ■■■■■■■■ there cf…
Employers don’t use/choose foreign labour because it’s cheap or as an “f u” to UK workers, they use them because they are not workshy and turn up to interviews with a can do attitude unlike the “what’s in it for me” lazy [zb]ers that this country produces, it might also explain your current employment status.
Just for the avoidance of any doubt and as you may know.I’m as close to retirement as makes no difference and was put off around 15 years of night trunking on medical grounds long before that ( knackered back requiring high risk surgery which still wouldn’t have made it strong enough to go back to the job even if I’d have taken the risk and it had ‘worked’ ).My employment status now being all about the loss of my last surviving parent meaning that most of the household income has gone with her.As opposed to what was left of my income protection cover combined with that running things nicely previously up to my retirement age.
Having taken just about all the zb work the job could throw at me long before that in the form of 5 years as a class 2 council driver and agency work offering even worse much worse ( scaffolding/shuttering/site labourer/driver for one example ).Eventually belatedly decided that I was being taken for a mug in that regard,in the form of my naive enthusiasm thinking start at the bottom the good stuff will then automatically happen.
While I have it on good authority that during all this and the following years doing class 1 night trunking,others were just able to walk into the jobs,which I’d been told that I still didn’t have the experience for,behind me.Sometimes from totally different careers.Hope that helps.
As for the immigrant workforce.Which part of pages and pages,of obviously unfilled local multidrop/retail/building trades deliveries/labourer/driver etc type vacancies.All hoping for the next mug who thinks that it will be a stepping stone to their dream job of choice,but now obviously facing the resistance of those like the OP,whether our own workforce or not.Didn’t you understand.
I can confidently say that had Mr Monster fancied running round Europe shifting explosives, then he’d have been taken on. And given that drivers rarely left us, I presume we were good to work for.
Good experience and good attitude, the latter counting as much as the former.
I took rubbish jobs on when I left school, all within haulage. It gave me an understanding of people, the job from different angles and I wouldn’t have had it any other way.
Done coop before, class 2 found it ok, some shops tight but it gets you experience, they are good at giving detailed instructions for finding and getting Into each branch of you read and follow that and take it steady it’s ok. Bit of lugging about but keeps you trim! [emoji16]
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albion:
I took rubbish jobs on when I left school, all within haulage. It gave me an understanding of people, the job from different angles and I wouldn’t have had it any other way.
I think that’s the difference with todays new breed of driver and I blame two things (three actually but I’ll come back to the third as it’s thankfully rarer)
todays society demands everything instantly, it is now the norm, faster shopping, faster internet, everything is quick and easy and within instant reach, this translates in the HGV world as being a car driver one week and holding a class 1 licence less than a fortnight later on pretty much no more than a whim and an interest free credit card, no time to be taught real world skills, learn from the old hands and hone your own skills.
A dumbed down spoon fed industry with signs even showing you how to sit on a toilet correctly, dumbed down equipment ie automatic gearboxes and also zero experience necessary.
Finally I’ll come to point three, this is the one that will pretty much guarantee you won’t get the job even in todays current state of the industry and that’s attitude, fail this and you won’t get the job (remind you of anyone) of course unfortunately there are blaggers and bullshitters who pass this crucial step as any RDC waiting room will attest.
I joined the industry as a van driver, your typical arrogant cocksure white van man on typical multi parcel deliveries, then I managed to get on to 7.5tonner parcel and pallet deliveries (at which point I figured I was some sort of super trucker) then eventually class 2 and ultimately class 1 by which time I’d matured and been molded by the industry into a well rounded (both attitude and belly by this time unfortunately) experienced driver…
It’s not difficult to see where this industry is going wrong really is it?
this translates in the HGV world as being a car driver one week and holding a class 1 licence less than a fortnight later on pretty much no more than a whim and an interest free credit card
It’s driving a oversized van with less drops and more brakes. Not chartered accountancy duck
A.Harris76:
this translates in the HGV world as being a car driver one week and holding a class 1 licence less than a fortnight later on pretty much no more than a whim and an interest free credit card
It’s driving a oversized van with less drops and more brakes. Not chartered accountancy duck
Says the person who can’t get a job [emoji849][emoji849][emoji849]
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A.Harris76:
this translates in the HGV world as being a car driver one week and holding a class 1 licence less than a fortnight later on pretty much no more than a whim and an interest free credit card
It’s driving a oversized van with less drops and more brakes. Not chartered accountancy duck
And right there is the attitude that validates my previous point.
Thank you.
Reef:
A.Harris76:
this translates in the HGV world as being a car driver one week and holding a class 1 licence less than a fortnight later on pretty much no more than a whim and an interest free credit card
It’s driving a oversized van with less drops and more brakes. Not chartered accountancy duck
And right there is the attitude that validates my previous point.
Thank you.
And makes me glad I dont employ people anymore. Every now and then one could slip through the net and it never ended well.