Hiya Dan’l , what time are you “setting sail” to Inverness ? As Jackie Brady used to say to some of his drivers " Get a flyer in the morning Son" !! As regards to Atki bumpers and crash bars I am not aware that Atkis supplied chrome plated ones, I recall I had one bumper “chromed” by SERCK Services and around 1973 Atkis changed from a cast crash bar to a cheaper, lighter, fabricated one which was more-or-less just for show and no longer served the purpose it was intended for ! Drive safely and “gan canny” Cheers Dennis.
I collected a motorbike a few yrs ago ( could be 10 actually) from somewhere up the hill side behind reebok stadium,the mans wife worked at Atkinsons in the drawing office and her drawings were framed in the garage , I will have to see if I can find the house again to see where the drawings may eventually end up !
Now then Den’l, 
, I am recovering from a large carvery at route 74 ,parked here ready to pounce on the tannery in Paisley early doors, then on to Inverness after, we could of double manned 
Punchy Dan:
Now then Den’l,
That’s what I like to hear a Driver that’s right on top of his job for early doors at the first drop, are you on the “Skate Board” ? or the Foden ? Cheers Dennis.
Father bought a new B series bumper once and welded 2 plates in the middle back to back ,then cut it in half ,built a very powerful polisher on the bench and prepared the bumper for chroming,it went somewhere in handsworth to be done , it had to be in 2 parts to fit in the vat .( in the Foden Den’l )
It is the later channel type bumper Dan, the Mk I and Mk II’s had the chrome bumpers but it seems around the early 70’s the plain bumper was fitted, maybe a buyer could choose as some of the so called named series (Borderer, Defender etc)from 1970 still had chrome bumpers, Riding’s certainly did although most other post 70’s Atkinson’s I’ve seen had the later type. Franky.
Perhaps that was the origional bumper then , the lorry came from Den’ls mate fast Eddie at 18 months old .
Punchy Dan:
Perhaps that was the origional bumper then , the lorry came from Den’ls mate fast Eddie at 18 months old .
The Chrome bumper was an option on the Mk 1 but after the Seddon takeover in '70 and the Mk11 was introduced the chrome bumper was dropped for a plain painted one. I don’t recall to being offered a chrome option with the first Borderer I ordered in early '71. Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
Punchy Dan:
Perhaps that was the origional bumper then , the lorry came from Den’ls mate fast Eddie at 18 months old .The Chrome bumper was an option on the Mk 1 but after the Seddon takeover in '70 and the Mk11 was introduced the chrome bumper was dropped for a plain painted one. I don’t recall to being offered a chrome option with the first Borderer I ordered in early '71. Cheers Dennis.
Now then, Dennis, there’s plenty that Seddon can be blamed for, but the ‘tin’ bumper isn’t one of them! 
It first appeared on the View-Line prototype at the 1966 Earls Court Show, and then again on the new Mk.2 cab at the 1967 Kelvin Hall Show, and it featured on production Mk.2s from 1969 onwards.
The new range (Borderer, etc.,) that was launched at the 1970 Earls Court Show pre-dated the Seddon takeover too.
Yes, Tom Riding used to fit chrome bumpers to his Mk.2s, but I guess that he had plenty of stock of them and then fitted them to the wagons once he had taken delivery.
Bewick:
Frankydobo:
Kennyjohnson wrote: This is the first diesel atkinson, it had a dorman engin so it must be a MK1, unless the steemers were MK1’s ?The Mk I term related to the cab rather than the vehicle, the Mk I cab was the first fibreglass panelled cab Atkinson built, however when the taller Mk II came along it did confuse things as there had been a change from single headlight to double during the Mk I era, normally any manufacturer that made major design changes to an original would term that as a Mk II or even Mk IA, this doesn’t seem to have happened in this case and has lead to confusion between the two Marks, often the Mk I cab with double headlights are mistakenly called Mk II’s, the quick clue is in the radiator casting. These fine Riding tractors show the differences. Franky.
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Atkinson Mk I cab single headlight
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Atkinson Mk II cabGreat shots of a great firm Franky but I think your explanation can be refined a little further as you quite rightly identify the last shot as being a MK11 but it was also the shorter WB of 9’ 6" which was increased to 10’ 8" in circa 1970, possibly to accommodate the 8LXB, no doubt Mr G will be able to enlighten us further ! Cheers Bewick.
Yep, that’s a Mk.2 Silver Knight - the Borderer was 10’8" wheelbase as standard, as you say, and it was referred to in Atkinson literature at one point as being able to accommodate “new power units available in the not too distant future”, or something similar.
However, the Borderer was available to order on a 9’6" wheelbase too, but the Borderer frame is deeper than a Mk.2 Knight
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Blimey, that’s a bit poncey, Dennis, with the coach wheeltrims 
You’d have thought he would have blagged a chrome bumper off Ridings for it!
Retired Old ■■■■:
You’d have thought he would have blagged a chrome bumper off Ridings for it!
Half a job, eh?
Good info from 240 Gardner, while talking bumpers here’s a different one again on this new Borderer, looks like they had them chromed up for the Motor Show, the chassis cab Venturer and Defender have the same look. The Leader chassis and 8LXB shows a nice compact and tidy build. Sorry the pics lost a bit of their sharpness during resize.
Franky.
Frankydobo:
Kennyjohnson wrote: This is the first diesel atkinson, it had a dorman engin so it must be a MK1, unless the steemers were MK1’s ?The Mk I term related to the cab rather than the vehicle, the Mk I cab was the first fibreglass panelled cab Atkinson built, however when the taller Mk II came along it did confuse things as there had been a change from single headlight to double during the Mk I era, normally any manufacturer that made major design changes to an original would term that as a Mk II or even Mk IA, this doesn’t seem to have happened in this case and has lead to confusion between the two Marks, often the Mk I cab with double headlights are mistakenly called Mk II’s, the quick clue is in the radiator casting. These fine Riding tractors show the differences. Franky.
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MK1 Atkinsons did not exsist untill 1968, when they built the new bigger cab witch people ( not Atkinsons ) start to dub the MK11.
when they first built the fibreglass cab they did not know there would be a MK11. If you look at the invoice on page 88 Atkinsons just give the cab type as deluxe not MK1
Regards Ken