orys:
I know, that every occasion to pick up on me is good for you,
It’s only verbal jousting Orys, there’s no malice in it.
And having known you since you first turned up on TruckNet, it’s been fascinating to watch your knowledge of the English language evolve and improve to this level from the earliest posts, well done, I wouldn’t mind being able to write Polish a hundredth as well. Although you have become more argumentative now
As you know, I have driven through Poland dozens of times, I have spent weeks of my life there, I love the food, the countryside, the culture, the people.
When there is an active topic about the effect that the opening up of eastern Europe has had I do contribute to it, and my feelings about that are quite well known, but that’s not the same as saying I would feel genuine hostility towards anyone from eastern Europe who came here with an intention to work and learn, I’m just not like that.
So on this thread I shall restrict myself to the old English saying, “There’s nothing better than a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent”
uptomydiff:
Was talking to my Transport manager about it the other day and he told me of a driver that had his cab broken into in Manchester and his sat nav was stolen. the driver asked could someone come out in a van to rescue him as he did not know how to get to his next delivery!
And? I can give you an address and I doubt without access to a Satnav, map or the internet you’d find it either.
Conor mate, I REALLY do hope that for the sake of the image and future of this industry, that you ARE on a wind up Please tell me you are!
First: thanks for nice words on my English. I have to say, that my participation on trucknet was a great school of language and culture (and still is!).
Harry Monk:
So on this thread I shall restrict myself to the old English saying, “There’s nothing better than a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent”
I know, I like reading you and value your posts (unless you speak rubbish, off course, that sometimes happens )
The problem with getting more advanced with English is that you start to understand all that small things that are “between the verses” - i don’t know if you have the same expression, or if you use different idiom for this) but that is a completely new level of language usage… And as you learn all the time, sometimes you miss this litttle meanings and do not catch something, while on the other occasions you look for something that is not there…
So if I got you wrongly this time, please take my apologies for it But I hope you comprehence that after all this hateful crap you pured near me recently, I am looking at your posts with more attention, trying to guess, if you are just normal or nice, or if there is some twisted malice behind the words
orys:
The problem with getting more advanced with English is that you start to understand all that small things that are “between the verses” - i don’t know if you have the same expression, or if you use different idiom for this) but that is a completely new level of language usage… And as you learn all the time, sometimes you miss this litttle meanings and do not catch something, while on the other occasions you look for something that is not there…
So if I got you wrongly this time, please take my apologies for it But I hope you comprehence that after all this hateful crap you pured near me recently, I am looking at your posts with more attention, trying to guess, if you are just normal or nice, or if there is some twisted malice behind the words
Then our discussions would be rolling flawlessly even if you don’t agree with some facts and I would don’t need to look into how you try to offend me in not-obvious way to avoid being deleted again
happysack:
When I started, the boss told me to get a Phillips navigator map. Every driver had the same one, and all the office staff had the same. Ideal for finding somewhere because you knew the other person was liking atty same thing as you. On tipper work we did a lot of farms, and the Philips makes am awful lot of them.
orys:
Then our discussions would be rolling flawlessly even if you don’t agree with some facts
Here’s your Soviet Union brainwashery education coming out again… believe in my facts… all opposition to my thesis is subversion… all you need to do is agree with me and our discussions would be rolling flawlessly…say after me “eastern European immigration was a good thing for British truck drivers”.
If I go walking in The Lake District or The Peak District I use the good old Ordnance Survey, but I do have a GPS as a back up to pin point exactly where I am, if needed…
But the best bit of kit I have bought for the Truck has to be the Satnav!!! I use it all the time even going to places I know…Mine has live traffic update on it, it also give me loads of info on how much further, longer.etc… I see it just as moving with the times…
orys:
Then our discussions would be rolling flawlessly even if you don’t agree with some facts
Here’s your Soviet Union brainwashery education coming out again… believe in my facts… all opposition to my thesis is subversion… all you need to do is agree with me and our discussions would be rolling flawlessly…say after me “eastern European immigration was a good thing for British truck drivers”.
Sorry Orys, not buying it.
This is a brilliant example of the crap you say. I never said it was good for British truck driver. I just said that it was not AS bad as someone who don’t know how the other side of the coin looks like may think. And since you are not interested in finding how the other side of the coin look like, you try to ridicule me by accusing me of saying obviously absurd things.
But since we already explained that on several ocasions before (I mean: I explained it to you, and you were abusing Eastern Europeans in very primitive way) might I propose that we refrain from further discussing (or I will stop discuss and you will stop saying crap like that) that topic in that thread. This topic is not in even the slightest way related to Eastern European role in British haulage, so let’s drop it.
At least I would not discuss any further Eastern European issues here. And if you have any private issue, my PM mailbox is open for your messages.
All this started because you said that you and your contemporaries wouldn’t be able to sit a two-hour written exam without collapsing in excruciating agony, and I posted a link to a Operator’s CPC exam paper which is a two-hour written exam.
After you had posted a “rollyeyes” when you mockingly asked whether the Operator’s CPC paper came anywhere near requiring a two-hour written exam.
I was 52 when I took this two-hour written exam, if you can’t do it at 32 without your wrist giving up, can I respectfully suggest that you spend a little less time with “Widow Thumb and her four daughters”
Harry Monk:
All this started because you said that you and your contemporaries wouldn’t be able to sit a two-hour written exam without collapsing in excruciating agony
Could you please quote where I said that I am unable to sit two hour exam without collapsing in excruciating agony? I was only able to find the post, where I used the world “to cope” (spelled wrongly!) to say, that younger generation often can’t write for longer periods of time without feeling pain in their hands, because due to popularity of computers their hands are not use to this kind of activity any more.
And still can’t see how that might lead to obvious nonsense of me being educated in Soviet Union and if you used your superiour British education to recall some basic arithmetics you would be able to work it for yourself why I haven’t been even educated in communist Poland (since British education in political history of Europe is not superior, I will give you some tips: 1980 August agreements in GdaÅ„sk Shipyard, 4th June elections in 1989… , 1991 collapse of Soviet Union… )
orys:
And still can’t see how that might lead to obvious nonsense of me being educated in Soviet Union
Blimey Orys, the tallest building in Warsaw was built by Stalin. I’ve even been up it in the lift.
It’s wonderful that Poland has gone from being an occupied country to being a free country, I was there in the very earliest days of that, but you went to school when Poland was still under Soviet control and so you had a Soviet education, which includes learning the mind-control games implicit in statements implying “Believe in the Orys, otherwise you are wrong”.
orys:
And still can’t see how that might lead to obvious nonsense of me being educated in Soviet Union
Blimey Orys, the tallest building in Warsaw was built by Stalin. I’ve even been up it in the lift.
It’s wonderful that Poland has gone from being an occupied country to being a free country, I was there in the very earliest days of that, but you went to school when Poland was still under Soviet control and so you had a Soviet education, which includes learning the mind-control games implicit in statements implying “Believe in the Orys, otherwise you are wrong”.
Yeah, my ability to multiple numbers from 1 to 10, writing, playing simple tunes on flute or kid’s xylophone, painting pictures like this fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/ … 3315_o.jpg (this is actually made by 9yo daugter of my friends), crossing the streets, making train cars of the matchboxes and scultptures from paper mache, observing birds and recognizing trees - because this are kinds of activities that kids aged 7 or 8 years are doing in schools even in Britain - was heavily influenced by the thawing communist regime of late 1980s in which teachers were openly speaking about things KatyÅ„ massacre to their older pupils and where Arkady Fiedlers “Division 303” book about Polish participation in Battle of Britain was a mandatory school lecture
It’s only after I came to Britain I learned the latin alphabet and found, to my surprise, that in the free world seven times six is also 42…
Harry Monk:
Blimey Orys, the tallest building in Warsaw was built by Stalin. I’ve even been up it in the lift.
And btw, tallest building in London is built by the Quatar guys. Does it makes Britain a muslim caliphate ruled by sharia law?
Well, yes, Britain more or less is a Muslim country now. Which just goes to prove my point about occupying nations, sometimes the people are so brainwashed that they don’t even notice that the occupying army are there.
When I started driving there were no such things as sat nav so had to use a map & or ask when got near to drop
But have always had best sat nav the mark 1 eyeball
I do have a sat nav also a map or 3 use the sat nave to give an approx eta but not a lorry sat nave just a plain simple 1 although dont alway follow it as can read the road as well & the sign post on the road
Harry Monk:
Well, yes, Britain more or less is a Muslim country now. Which just goes to prove my point about occupying nations, sometimes the people are so brainwashed that they don’t even notice that the occupying army are there.
Popularity of the BNP and people with views like yours prove my point, that this alleged “brainwashing education” is not working as you imagine.
As for the rest, I am going to send you an e-mail, in a yet another futile attempt to educate you on some of the Polish history (don’t worry, it will be short).
Going to throw my two penneth in on this seeing as I believe I’m somewhat of an oddity. I’m 24, so part of the Information Generation or whatever ■■■■■■■■ buzzwords we’re getting called, and I hate Sat-Navs, and I believe I’m the only driver on for us who doesn’t use one, at all. I have a map for bridge heights and I use google maps, but not as a directional aide. I look at where I am, I look at where I need to be and figure the route out for myself. Then, if I haven’t been to my destination before, I’ll sattalite the area so I can see what the yard looks like, or if the entrance isn’t obvious.
I have a strange memory though in the sense that when I have been somewhere once, even if I don’t go again for 6 months I can get myself back to it step by step, even if the route is down backroads and so on. Granted, I’m on store work, but I’ve probably memorised the routes and locations of over 100 different stores ranging from Weymouth to Boston to Gillingham along with around 25 locations within the M25.
It might not sound impressive, and to be fair it isn’t in the grand scheme of things, but seeing as some guys run with two or sometimes more Sat-navs I like to think I’m doing pretty well. It’s a skill which is no longer needed sure, but it keeps me focused and when the drivers mates are all “How the hell are doing this without a Sat-nav in the dark?!” it makes me feel quite good
Please tell me you are!
But I hope you comprehence that after all this hateful crap you pured near me recently, I am looking at your posts with more attention, trying to guess, if you are just normal or nice, or if there is some twisted malice behind the words 
