If that was what you were intending to convey, it didn’t come across that way.
The continual repetition of “using” in reference to “?” suggested you were relying on the “?” to explain your gap in info.
Anyway, as long as you’re sorted now, that’s what matters.
Yep, I was always writing my non-driving hours down on the back of printouts and carrying them with me.
Nowadays I am just doing 2-4 shifts a week driving, so all my time is recorded on the digicard, much simpler! 
Actually that’s what we’ve all been saying all along but…
Anyway, hopefully we’re now all agreed that the correct procedure for none tachograph work days is to either manually input the activities into the tachograph or write manual entries on printouts/charts and then, when you’re next in a vehicle with a tachograph use the ? symbol from the end of the previous tachograph shift to the start of the current shift.
When I say the start or end of shifts obviously there may or may not be manual entries entered into the tachograph for the end of the previous tachograph shift or the start of the current shift.
By the way, if you use an attestation form you will need one for each activity so I would have thought the easiest way is to use printout paper.
Drivers’ hours and tachographs: goods vehicles - 4. Tachograph rules - Guidance - GOV.UK
4.3 Common Rules
When a tachograph is not available to record data in real time, the only permitted methods for drivers to make a manual entry are to:
- make a manual entry on an analogue tachograph record sheet – write the driver’s name in the usual place and blocks of activities anywhere else as long as they are legible
- make a manual entry on digital printout paper – write the block of time on the front of the paper and driver details on the back (driver name, driver card number, driving licence number)
- retrospectively use the manual input facility on a digital tachograph when the card is next inserted
The regulations do not permit any other forms of record. However, DVSA will also accept attestation forms that cover the relevant periods, including rest, other work and periods of availability. One attestation form should cover each activity. For example, in a period where there was no in-scope driving, a driver would need one attestation to cover other work, and another for weekly rest.
When recording periods in blocks, drivers should use printout paper or analogue record sheets, rather than the manual input facility on a digital tachograph, as this is the quickest method.
If so, then that’s TWO people who have failed to adequately express clearly what they were thinking…
Whatever… I cannot emphasise how little I am interested in how other people choose to discharge their responsibilities where I am not their TM.
Seems clear enough to me 
From what was posted I fail to see how anyone would not understand that they need to do manual entries along with using the ? symbol on the tachograph, I even put it into words “and do the manual entry for yesterdays work on a printout or chart”.
Anyway the issue of using the ? symbol seems to be cleared up now 
I thought this (below) was clear enough, but here I am being forced to repeat myself yet again 
Use ? symbol to indicate the information is held elsewhere. The best way.
As I have said, attestation forms are not the standard approach for driving within the UK, but they can be accepted. They do need the involvement of somebody other than the driver though, so take your pick on the easier approach.
@zac_a, it’s a forum open to all. You have no authority here. If you get something wrong, we will point it out because there should be a consensus to help members.
I was replying to Tachograph, not you. You’re rapidly becoming a candidate for my ignore list Rain Man.
Edit: On second thoughts, why wait? Congratulations! You’ve made the team
I will refrain from posting a reply directly to the member, but it does seem that everyone else understood except him.
If you say:
Readers will presume that is what you mean, or am I missing something?
I don’t think there is any reason to change the way I post, challenging where necessary and admitting when I am wrong if appropriate.
I could do without the personal attacks though to be honest.