Surprised about the Hillsbrough accusation. As far as I know Maggie had nothing to do with the police cover up. That was the local chief constable surely?
Also a good point about the miner’s strike. They had rejected two ballots and still Scargill brought them out. What a disgrace THAT man is.
Hey, It is not to me to reply ,I’m not a Brit,but how we see it from here. Our old prime minister who was together with her on the bridge in the '80’s. Was interviewed at her dieing day on TV,and he was so so careful of repling the questions asked for. He only was a bit chuckling on the questions and sometimes he replied so carefully not to hurt someone. And said it was a hard one to work with.
But I have never see at the dead of someone who was unpopular in his ruling days years ago, that people were so festive after hearing the news. We had a very hated minister by rich and poor decades ago,but at his dead nobody was saying I love it. But on the funeral was nearly nobody,and the few were who had worked for him and had earned good money,and a few politicians and they evaded the asked questions by the press.
In my opinion you may have who you want or don’t want,in bad times they will be always hated and of course it’s always the man in the street who has to pay the penalty for it. But after so many years it must hurted very very hard for some.
Cheers Eric,
Jazzandy:
Surprised about the Hillsbrough accusation. As far as I know Maggie had nothing to do with the police cover up. That was the local chief constable surely?Also a good point about the miner’s strike. They had rejected two ballots and still Scargill brought them out. What a disgrace THAT man is.
So true
tiptop495:
Hey, It is not to me to reply ,I’m not a Brit,but how we see it from here. Our old prime minister who was together with her on the bridge in the '80’s. Was interviewed at her dieing day on TV,and he was so so careful of repling the questions asked for. He only was a bit chuckling on the questions and sometimes he replied so carefully not to hurt someone. And said it was a hard one to work with.
But I have never see at the dead of someone who was unpopular in his ruling days years ago, that people were so festive after hearing the news. We had a very hated minister by rich and poor decades ago,but at his dead nobody was saying I love it. But on the funeral was nearly nobody,and the few were who had worked for him and had earned good money,and a few politicians and they evaded the asked questions by the press.
In my opinion you may have who you want or don’t want,in bad times they will be always hated and of course it’s always the man in the street who has to pay the penalty for it. But after so many years it must hurted very very hard for some.Cheers Eric,
Hi Eric if you find the festivities of some at the death of Mrs Thatcher in your home place as hard to understand how do you think the majority of normal human beings in this country feel. At least they are of a minority and they have all gone home now and one wonders how many of them are supported by our taxpayers to survive, where do they think this money comes from ? some of these protesters were not even alive when she was in control. She was elected three times to lead our government in her era so that must surely tell you something, I just feel depressed at the actions of the few as they should have respect at the death of a person who ever he or she was. It is sad when I hear of what people outside this country must be thinking of us as a nation and how some of our population react but rest assured it is the minority as I said before and one wishes for someone of her calibre to be in control right now as my god we need it, this place is on the verge of ruin and we need a saviour pretty soon or we will be in the same position as Greece and then perhaps reality will kick in for these minorities, good to have a view from another country Eric so keep posting, cheers Buzzer.
curnock:
dead and gone thats that …i’m more angry with cameron spending between eight and ten milllion pound on a gigantic self bigup and ■■■■■■ for him and his coronies…and as for stopping big ben !!,who the [zb] does he think he is ■■,talk about cheapening a state event !!
You do realise that it was Gordon Brown’s government that arranged this funeral , so all this rubbish about a tory funeral and political funeral is garbage . You owe Cameron an apology
Buzzer:
tiptop495:
Hey, It is not to me to reply ,I’m not a Brit,but how we see it from here. Our old prime minister who was together with her on the bridge in the '80’s. Was interviewed at her dieing day on TV,and he was so so careful of repling the questions asked for. He only was a bit chuckling on the questions and sometimes he replied so carefully not to hurt someone. And said it was a hard one to work with.
But I have never see at the dead of someone who was unpopular in his ruling days years ago, that people were so festive after hearing the news. We had a very hated minister by rich and poor decades ago,but at his dead nobody was saying I love it. But on the funeral was nearly nobody,and the few were who had worked for him and had earned good money,and a few politicians and they evaded the asked questions by the press.
In my opinion you may have who you want or don’t want,in bad times they will be always hated and of course it’s always the man in the street who has to pay the penalty for it. But after so many years it must hurted very very hard for some.Cheers Eric,
Hi Eric if you find the festivities of some at the death of Mrs Thatcher in your home place as hard to understand how do you think the majority of normal human beings in this country feel. At least they are of a minority and they have all gone home now and one wonders how many of them are supported by our taxpayers to survive, where do they think this money comes from ? some of these protesters were not even alive when she was in control. She was elected three times to lead our government in her era so that must surely tell you something, I just feel depressed at the actions of the few as they should have respect at the death of a person who ever he or she was. It is sad when I hear of what people outside this country must be thinking of us as a nation and how some of our population react but rest assured it is the minority as I said before and one wishes for someone of her calibre to be in control right now as my god we need it, this place is on the verge of ruin and we need a saviour pretty soon or we will be in the same position as Greece and then perhaps reality will kick in for these minorities, good to have a view from another country Eric so keep posting, cheers Buzzer.
And theres no getting away from the fact that she was elected by the majority of voters in this country 3 times in a row so she must have been getting something right.Just glad she kept Kinnock at bay and Mr Foot,shame we couldnt have ousted Tony Blair (tory plan b) before his wife made millions out of the crippling human rights law
Where’s the Leatherhead Loon? This discussion is right up his street, yet he has the gall to drag every other innocent thread back to his cross-eyed workers’ rights prejudices. He’s afraid of Mrs. Thatcher, that’s what it is.
[zb]
anorak:
Where’s the Leatherhead Loon? This discussion is right up his street, yet he has the gall to drag every other innocent thread back to his cross-eyed workers’ rights prejudices. He’s afraid of Mrs. Thatcher, that’s what it is.
I saw him on the TV waving a Union Flag and dressed as the pearly queen.
I was 20 when we had electricity cuts and the three day week, we had no coal and dead bodies and refuge were not being collected. During the transport strike I was driving for a company who had lots of waste pallets, we were welcome to drive through a picket line because these drivers had no coal at home, no money or electricity. But because of me and my mate they did have firewood for the strike and to take home to heat the family home.
When I was 22 I bought my first house. That is what Maggie did for me and those are my memories of her.
Wheel Nut:
[zb]
anorak:
Where’s the Leatherhead Loon? This discussion is right up his street, yet he has the gall to drag every other innocent thread back to his cross-eyed workers’ rights prejudices. He’s afraid of Mrs. Thatcher, that’s what it is.I saw him on the TV waving a Union Flag and dressed as the pearly queen.
I was 20 when we had electricity cuts and the three day week, we had no coal and dead bodies and refuge were not being collected. During the transport strike I was driving for a company who had lots of waste pallets, we were welcome to drive through a picket line because these drivers had no coal at home, no money or electricity. But because of me and my mate they did have firewood for the strike and to take home to heat the family home.
When I was 22 I bought my first house. That is what Maggie did for me and those are my memories of her.
I think your memory is fading a bit.If I read it right you’re around a year older than me if not less and the three day week was in '73/4 during the strike that the miners actually won.If a stitch up by the so called Labour Party,which paid them less than Heath was going to settle for,could be classed as winning.You obviously didn’t try to buy a house down here on a council worker’s wages. 
For me she was a vindictive woman with no remorse that caused a lot of suffering in a lot of people’s lives in Ireland.
Fact…
Buzzer:
tiptop495:
Hey, It is not to me to reply ,I’m not a Brit,but how we see it from here. Our old prime minister who was together with her on the bridge in the '80’s. Was interviewed at her dieing day on TV,and he was so so careful of repling the questions asked for. He only was a bit chuckling on the questions and sometimes he replied so carefully not to hurt someone. And said it was a hard one to work with.
But I have never see at the dead of someone who was unpopular in his ruling days years ago, that people were so festive after hearing the news. We had a very hated minister by rich and poor decades ago,but at his dead nobody was saying I love it. But on the funeral was nearly nobody,and the few were who had worked for him and had earned good money,and a few politicians and they evaded the asked questions by the press.
In my opinion you may have who you want or don’t want,in bad times they will be always hated and of course it’s always the man in the street who has to pay the penalty for it. But after so many years it must hurted very very hard for some.Cheers Eric,
She was elected three times to lead our government in her era so that must surely tell you something, rest assured one wishes for someone of her calibre to be in control right now as my god we need it, this place is on the verge of ruin and we need a saviour pretty soon or we will be in the same position as Greece and then perhaps reality will kick in for these minorities, good to have a view from another country Eric so keep posting, cheers Buzzer.
The reason why the place is on the verge of ruin is ‘because’ of her economic policies and every government we’ve had since that just followed them.The reason why she was elected was because of the combination disillusioned ‘Labour’ supporters having given up on the Party so therefore stayed at home and other working class scroungers looking for a free council house paid for by the state to save them a few bob in saving for a deposit and paying for a mortgage.Unlike many of the so called militant workers asking for sufficient wages to pay for their own house.So who are you going to blame now for the economic situation that the place is in considering that the unions were defeated in 1979 with the result that wages are lagging behind prices and spending power has collapsed.While even if by some miracle you get economic growth all it will do is increase the trade deficit leading to more debt. 
LeeJ:
I won’t be shedding a tear, she is responsible for the cover up from the police at the Hillsborough disaster. She showed no remorse when she was ordering the chief of police to ‘tamper’ with the reports and ‘get rid’ of the evidence that would point the finger of blame at HER police force.Then there’s the Liverpool dockers, that’s another story. She single handed destroyed the city of Liverpool one way or another. I’m not from Liverpool but her hate of Scousers was there for all to see. She hated working classes and she made them pay anyway she could.
She can rot in hell.
Well said. I’m not a scouser (and I cannot abide LFC) but the poisonous ■■■■■ will hopefully be forced to lie on a bed of red hot Yorkshire coal for ever. I left school during her reign as PM, the job situation was a joke and she put millions out of work just to give her mates in business a lift up.
Not only Northern Ireland was made to suffer, but remember the stupid cow said she agreed with apartheid and that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist.
The place is a lot better off without her and I hope her last day/s were as painful as those she brought the most suffering to during her time as pm. The crocodile tears of the ■■■■■■■■■ in her cabinet at the time don’t wash either, they were the ones who finally realised she was a dangerous megalomaniac who had to be stopped.
Sadly her spirit lives on inside the body of the current idiot running the country, another *****r who will try and smash the working class.
In reply to ajt’s post I think what ever your opinion of Margaret Thatcher is there is no need to mock some one who has departed this earth however strong your feelings are about her, have a nice day and I hope for your sake it does not end with a heart attack,cheers Buzzer.
Jazzandy:
Surprised about the Hillsbrough accusation. As far as I know Maggie had nothing to do with the police cover up. That was the local chief constable surely?
Under threat of been exposed as committing a major c@ck up the chief constable reported back to the government for instructions. The instructions were change the statements given by individual police officers, remove anything that would point the blame back to the South Yorkshire Police force. She ordered that.
ajt:
:lol:
Have some respect for the dead,regardless of who has died.
David
I’m so glad that we are getting different views. Truck drivers, if anything, are independent souls who see the wider picture because they travel and are responsible for their own destinies which is why I would expect a majority on the side of Maggie.
What does concern me is the mixing of ancient left wing propaganda, myth, spitting images etc. all presented as truth viz. the Hillsbrough accusation and the miners debacle. What gets lost are essential facts such as that it was not Maggie who took on the miners. It was the miners, sorry the Marxist, Scargill, who took on Maggie.
The other thing that dismays me is the descent into gutter language and misogyny. Words like ‘■■■■■’, and ‘witch’ are not worthy of reasoned argument and certainly not by truck drivers
Maggie made loads of mistakes, who doesn’t? The poll tax and the failure to support British manufacturing for two, but the statistics show that far more manufacturing jobs were lost under Blair’s maladministration.
To the posters who emphasise worker’s rights and oppression etc., I would remind them of the worker’s paradises of the Eastern bloc where rampant socialism demonstrated its results for all to see. How did their miners fare, I wonder?
Jazzandy:
I’m so glad that we are getting different views. Truck drivers, if anything, are independent souls who see the wider picture because they travel and are responsible for their own destinies which is why I would expect a majority on the side of Maggie.What does concern me is the mixing of ancient left wing propaganda, myth, spitting images etc. all presented as truth viz. the Hillsbrough accusation and the miners debacle. What gets lost are essential facts such as that it was not Maggie who took on the miners. It was the miners, sorry the Marxist, Scargill, who took on Maggie.
The other thing that dismays me is the descent into gutter language and misogyny. Words like ‘■■■■■’, and ‘witch’ are not worthy of reasoned argument and certainly not by truck drivers
Maggie made loads of mistakes, who doesn’t? The poll tax and the failure to support British manufacturing for two, but the statistics show that far more manufacturing jobs were lost under Blair’s maladministration.
To the posters who emphasise worker’s rights and oppression etc., I would remind them of the worker’s paradises of the Eastern bloc where rampant socialism demonstrated its results for all to see. How did their miners fare, I wonder?
I think the support of Thatcherism is based more on propaganda than anything concerning the realities which have taken place over the years to defend workers’ rights.
Yeah right every union member was/is a raving commie and unionisation being required to defend working conditions and wage levels is only something which applies to communism and communist countries.
wvculture.org/history/minewars.html
I think Maggie’s ( and her crony Reagan’s ) ideology,concerning so called free markets and using the cheapest labour,has actually done more for the interests of the Chinese Communist Party than Scargill could ever have dreamed of.While I’d guess that Scargill realises his mistakes in supporting the bs socialist cause now with hindsight if he’s got any sense.Unlike Maggie ever did in realising her far worse and greater mistakes.That’s if her ‘mistakes’ can actually be called mistakes at all.More like sheer bloody minded vindictiveness against her own people,while working under cover for the interests of communism,with support bought from a load of scrounging council house tenants looking for a free house. 
Carryfast:
Blah blah… did in realising her far worse and greater mistakes.That’s if her ‘mistakes’ can actually be called mistakes at all.More like sheer bloody minded vindictiveness against her own people with support bought from a load of scrounging council house tenants looking for a free house.
I take it you missed out on a free house then?
The tory’s go on about what a great leader she was, her own cabinet ministers ousted her from office!!! She can’t have been doing that good a job. Most of you guys on this site would have been a member of one union or another? So how can you support someone who was hell bent on destroying ALL unions not just the NUM.