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jakethesnake:

corij:
id think the big risk is mowing down a pedestrian who doesnt hear the bus coming.That happened on the East Hill in Colchester national express was cannoning quite silently down the hill some old lady stepped out mowed down.Actually i was wondering what are the mow down statistics for these electric cars,i had a near miss in an Asda car park i was walking to the store cut over a vacant spot at same time an electric car was silently pulling in behind me .

But surely most drivers would see a pedestian stepping out or are things actually worse than I thought. You can still hear electric vehicles road noise if your lugs work properly.

the driver did see her step out but too late to even brake. That reminds me as a kid i was playing with mates on the train tracks and we didnt hear a train coming till right on us,ducked in the gap between train and wall god we were lucky ,im sure i recall reading that trains approach silently how can that be huge engines but its true we heard nothing

corij:

jakethesnake:

corij:
id think the big risk is mowing down a pedestrian who doesnt hear the bus coming.That happened on the East Hill in Colchester national express was cannoning quite silently down the hill some old lady stepped out mowed down.Actually i was wondering what are the mow down statistics for these electric cars,i had a near miss in an Asda car park i was walking to the store cut over a vacant spot at same time an electric car was silently pulling in behind me .

But surely most drivers would see a pedestian stepping out or are things actually worse than I thought. You can still hear electric vehicles road noise if your lugs work properly.

the driver did see her step out but too late to even brake. That reminds me as a kid i was playing with mates on the train tracks and we didnt hear a train coming till right on us,ducked in the gap between train and wall god we were lucky ,im sure i recall reading that trains approach silently how can that be huge engines but its true we heard nothing

The Doppler effect

md1987:

jakethesnake:

switchlogic:
Actually thinking about it with modern coaches there’s sort of no reason the driver couldn’t be on the top deck. If you look a 4m high double deck coach the top deck passengers are usually about the same position as most flat floor trucks so wouldn’t be beyond the realms of possibility. Wonder why no one has tried. Wonder if anyone has.

I would think at that height it would compromise some normal vision but who knows. Best idea for safety is for coaches to travel at a safe distance from the vehicle in front.
They are as bad if not worse than some truck and car drivers.
I understand accidents occur for other reasons however the above is more than often the cause.

Aye you do see a lot of them uncomfortably close to the trailer of trucks that are overtaking.

What are buses limited to? Is it 60ish?
Has anyone here drove for Megabus? Just wondering what the driver schedules are like.

Edit. Not wanting to become a bus driver just curious

The times are OK on the London to Bristol route. You can do London Victoria to UWE just off M32 junction 2 in 2hours.

Carryfast:

switchlogic:
Absolutely, I agree, coaches are fine as they are imo, was just thinking out loud about CFs points. Fact is forward visibility is even more important for coaches since they spend their lives with people around them. I think the risk from hurting passengers resulting from a high driving position would far outweigh the risk from running into the back of a lorry. Fact is coach crashes are rare, and ones like that even rarer.

How do you improve forward visibility with a driving position that’s closer to the height of a car driver’s than a truck’s.
Don’t remember passenger safety ever being reduced because of the RT and RM driving positions.

Why are you continually banging on about RT & RM buses, a design from what, 80 years ago? The only reason the driver sat where they did is because they sit above the engine, same as trucks now, they sit on top of the engine. A modern bus or coach is rear engined so there is no need to sit high up, therefore improving visual safety in the areas where they spend a lot of time i.e. towns and cities.

corij:
you know those long mirrors that the bigger coaches have that stick out like a refuelling probe whats that all about look like a bee at the front . Dyou think anyones touched the vehicle in front with them,itd wake you up if you were dozing off!

I’ve touched walls and signs in tight places with them, they snap off remarkably easily.

switchlogic:

corij:
you know those long mirrors that the bigger coaches have that stick out like a refuelling probe whats that all about look like a bee at the front . Dyou think anyones touched the vehicle in front with them,itd wake you up if you were dozing off!

I’ve touched walls and signs in tight places with them, they snap off remarkably easily.

years back i worked in security and the basecamp/teahut had a variety of truck mirrors screwed to the outside of the cabin so that when you were in the Kings seat you could observe the comings and goings at the gate without so much as moving your head