gazzer:
I can’t orientate that docks photo.
Ocean Restaurant? Never heard of it.
The little “monument” beside it on the grass triangle means nowt.
St Marys gasometer top left.
A berthing dock centre left.
Dont recognise anywhere else.
An important rail junction by the look of it.
Must be “Old Docks” close to Terminus Terrace Station.
Glimpse of water to the right also.
So…Inside the docks, looking north towards the gasometer? And with the Itchen to the right?
A passenger(?) train (steaming hard) so leaving…44 berth?
I reckon that is not far inside No 4 Gate. If that white car veers left, itll exit onto Queens Park…
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Or not…
Yeah I thought you’d say that Buzzer. John Smith comes to mind but it dont look like him in there, Monty would give the definitive answer.
I too saw this on FB.
I wish all of you a very Happy Christmas.
This photo, courtesy of Terry Moody.
Pat not been so well of late but back at home.
Thank you Terry for keeping in contact with him.
gazzer:
I wish all of you a very Happy Christmas.
This photo, courtesy of Terry Moody.
Pat not been so well of late but back at home.
Thank you Terry for keeping in contact with him.
Pat escorted me on my first trip in an AEC Mandator day cab abroad to France along with Jim Baily, they had Foden’s and that was over 50 years ago, shipped out of Poole all working for PBC European transport, we all went to Amiens with synthetic rubber ex ISR and reloaded apples in Anjou, he got me tipsy on coffee/calva but I was young and knew no better. Very dry sense of humour and nearly always in wooden clogs part of his uniform, he must be knocking on a bit now as Ime 74 and I was his junior, all the best Pat, regards Buzzer.
gazzer:
I wish all of you a very Happy Christmas.
This photo, courtesy of Terry Moody.
Pat not been so well of late but back at home.
Thank you Terry for keeping in contact with him.
Pat escorted me on my first trip in an AEC Mandator day cab abroad to France along with Jim Baily, they had Foden’s and that was over 50 years ago, shipped out of Poole all working for PBC European transport, we all went to Amiens with synthetic rubber ex ISR and reloaded apples in Anjou, he got me tipsy on coffee/calva but I was young and knew no better. Very dry sense of humour and nearly always in wooden clogs part of his uniform, he must be knocking on a bit now as Ime 74 and I was his junior, all the best Pat, regards Buzzer.
The ‘Poole Antelope’ (named after Poole’s popular Antelope Inn) inaugurated the Truckline ferry service between Poole & Cherbourg on 29th June 1973
It was joined by its sister vessel ‘Dauphin de Cherbourg’ later the same year.
With the Allen family connection to the original Truckline Ferries , PBC had a high profile on the inaugural sailing,
New to PBC as an 8 wheeled tipper, it was later cut down to a twin steer tractor. Registering a modified Foden in Dept 50 (Manche) must have been a mechanical challenge!
Does anyone remember whether Mr Carlin was driving Ghost or Spirit , with its trailer load of candles, when it ‘fell off’ 'the Pont Notre Dame bridge into Le Havre’s Basin du Roi?
Thanks for that post Roolechat I looked everywhere for a picture of a PBC truck without success, brings back memories that does with only 12 drivers able to sail on the ships the rest flying out of Hurn to Cherbourg on Aurigny push pull planes who were based in Alderney, remember the mad French man who taxied us back down to the port in his stretched limo, long time ago now and boy how its changed, cheers Buzzer.
Buzzer:
Thanks for that post Roolechat I looked everywhere for a picture of a PBC truck without success, brings back memories that does with only 12 drivers able to sail on the ships the rest flying out of Hurn to Cherbourg on Aurigny push pull planes who were based in Alderney, remember the mad French man who taxied us back down to the port in his stretched limo, long time ago now and boy how its changed, cheers Buzzer.
I never used the Truckline route to Europe and therefore didn’t realise the restrictions on driver numbers, but, I do remember the cheaper service started up at the far end of Dover Western Docks to Ostende, I think it was. A similar restriction there and the distinct drawback of reverse on and drive off which was very difficult because the wagons were packed in so tight that mirrors had to be folded in and reversing was entirely at the hands of sailors’ hand signals. No wonder we all raced down there to be first, not only to reverse our own wagons on board, rather than a clueless docker take the helm, but also because the chosen 12 had luxurious accommodation and waiter service of the excellent food.
No 13 and his mates had to trudge to Sealink for a free passage on one of their ferries to Zeebrugge, from there to climb into a minibus to retrieve the remnants, in some cases, of their once beautiful motors.
Perhaps I am exaggerating, but how would I know, I was always one of the 12.
What was the name of those ships, a family of Italians ran them I seem to remember.
Buzzer:
Thanks for that post Roolechat I looked everywhere for a picture of a PBC truck without success, brings back memories that does with only 12 drivers able to sail on the ships the rest flying out of Hurn to Cherbourg on Aurigny push pull planes who were based in Alderney, remember the mad French man who taxied us back down to the port in his stretched limo, long time ago now and boy how its changed, cheers Buzzer.
I never used the Truckline route to Europe and therefore didn’t realise the restrictions on driver numbers, but, I do remember the cheaper service started up at the far end of Dover Western Docks to Ostende, I think it was. A similar restriction there and the distinct drawback of reverse on and drive off which was very difficult because the wagons were packed in so tight that mirrors had to be folded in and reversing was entirely at the hands of sailors’ hand signals. No wonder we all raced down there to be first, not only to reverse our own wagons on board, rather than a clueless docker take the helm, but also because the chosen 12 had luxurious accommodation and waiter service of the excellent food.
No 13 and his mates had to trudge to Sealink for a free passage on one of their ferries to Zeebrugge, from there to climb into a minibus to retrieve the remnants, in some cases, of their once beautiful motors.
Perhaps I am exaggerating, but how would I know, I was always one of the 12.
What was the name of those ships, a family of Italians ran them I seem to remember.
In Pompey we had the “Gabriella Wehr”, freight boat. Hamburg company still running today. It was used by Brittany on Po/Cean route in the 80s and then by P&O for Po/LeH.
It seems that shipping law allows up to 12 passengers on a freight boat, but more than that and the boat has to comply with different regulations. Im no matelot but am fairly sure about that. It is apparently possible to travel on modern container boats in this way. When P&O used "The Gabbie", drivers reversed onto the boat themselves under the guidance of the bosun. If you did exactly as he directed, youd get it on in one. After all he was doing many, many more every day than a driver would do in a month of Sundays. As you say, a narrow boat, all reverse on with mirrors pulled in.
Same as you said, it was the first 12 on that stayed with the boat, nice long restful crossing, the remainer would go the Pompey bars and Pubs for an hour or two before boarding the later passenger boat. The passenger boats still had a few trucks on board as accompanied. In the morning it was a short taxi ride from the passenger terminal to the freight berth.
There was also a freight service from Tankerville (near LeH) to So`ton. Lots of dropped trailers and 12 accompanied trucks. No ferry or plane for extra drivers on that service.
Hi, yes i remember the Gabriella Weir bit rough but it was ok i did prefer to ship on it rather than truck on there and get cabin on the passenger ship. Happy new year to all on here.
gerbil sb152:
Hi, yes i remember the Gabriella Weir bit rough but it was ok i did prefer to ship on it rather than truck on there and get cabin on the passenger ship. Happy new year to all on here.
Happy New Year, Kev
Yep, much better on there than below the freight deck on the passenger boat!
gerbil sb152:
Hi, yes i remember the Gabriella Weir bit rough but it was ok i did prefer to ship on it rather than truck on there and get cabin on the passenger ship. Happy new year to all on here.
Yes,but unlimited Duty Free from the broom cupboard,
Here we have a shot of one of Bakers delivering hard wood to Howard Bros who had a huge yard off to the side of Northam bridge, Howards used barges to bring some stock up the river which was unavitable to large goods ships and suspect that Bakers had only carried that load a short distance from deeper waters in the docks, Buzzer
Buzzer:
Here we have a shot of one of Bakers delivering hard wood to Howard Bros who had a huge yard off to the side of Northam bridge, Howards used barges to bring some stock up the river which was unavitable to large goods ships and suspect that Bakers had only carried that load a short distance from deeper waters in the docks, Buzzer
Later than that picture I did a load of round timber into Howard`s from Tilbury. 3 logs for a good twenty tons.
Not having goalposts* the trick I was shown was to load one to each edge of the trailer, temporarily held with chocks of some sort. Then 3 chains were thrown over the 2 logs and secured but not tensioned. The 3rd log was then dropped into the well between the logs, which pulled the chains tight, pulling them all to the centre and biting hard into the timber. Couple more chains or rope over the top and away you go.
*Goalposts: upside down, kin eavy ones!
Heavy steel cross members, with vertical posts on them, that can be put onto standard flat trailers to carry tubes, etc.
Buzzer:
Here we have a shot of one of Bakers delivering hard wood to Howard Bros who had a huge yard off to the side of Northam bridge, Howards used barges to bring some stock up the river which was unavitable to large goods ships and suspect that Bakers had only carried that load a short distance from deeper waters in the docks, Buzzer
Later than that picture I did a load of round timber into Howard`s from Tilbury. 3 logs for a good twenty tons.
Not having goalposts* the trick I was shown was to load one to each edge of the trailer, temporarily held with chocks of some sort. Then 3 chains were thrown over the 2 logs and secured but not tensioned. The 3rd log was then dropped into the well between the logs, which pulled the chains tight, pulling them all to the centre and biting hard into the timber. Couple more chains or rope over the top and away you go.
*Goalposts: upside down, kin eavy ones!
Heavy steel cross members, with vertical posts on them, that can be put onto standard flat trailers to carry tubes, etc.
More or less what we used to do with the almost 20 foot (bit of a space between the stacks to stand when hooking them off) narrow (6 inch approx) steel pipes from Stanton, but with ropes. Needed a lot of rope to cover each layer in 2 stacks.
Remember Cadena cafe’s well, always had the cups warming upside down on the steam chest, used the one in Salisbury most as went to college there, Buzzer
Buzzer:
Remember Cadena cafe’s well, always had the cups warming upside down on the steam chest, used the one in Salisbury most as went to college there, Buzzer
We had a Cadena Cafe in Bedford High St corner of the Arcade, we used it Saturdays mostly before playing football in the afternoon it was always busy.
