Carryfast:
If it’s a case of loads not secured properly on pallets that’s a warehouse/shippers problem.The driver’s responsibility ends at refusing the load if the load isn’t secured to the pallet or can’t be secured to a pallet because it should be in a stillage or a cage.
Jesus. You weren’t doing well with your reading last night were you?! I agree with you, if you had had bothered to read my second paragraph…
Carryfast:
If it’s a case of loads not secured properly on pallets that’s a warehouse/shippers problem.The driver’s responsibility ends at refusing the load if the load isn’t secured to the pallet or can’t be secured to a pallet because it should be in a stillage or a cage.
Jesus. You weren’t doing well with your reading last night were you?! I agree with you, if you had had bothered to read my second paragraph…
Fair enough.But by my reading,assuming it’s about loads shifting on pallets,that should just have said you should make sure that the warehouse/shipper has secured it to the pallet or used cages or stillages where required before loading it and if not it doesn’t get loaded.It makes no difference in that case even if it wasn’t ‘already falling over’ when it was loaded and there are few if any circumstances where it would be the drivers job to actually secure it in those respects.
^^This is possible, then think about how much you didnt secure it enough for it to move in the first place and see if you can avoid it in future if similar load
I’ve had a couple of pallets move after I had to stamp on the brakes to avoid crumpling a lovely young lady in her Fiat 500 who decided to cut in front of me. Nothing fell off, just sitting slanted on the pallets. I’d strapped the rear 4 as the rear 2 were lower. Sacks of grain. The second rear row had moved forward, that’s the ones that were strapped. The rest hadn’t moved at all. Confused the brains out of me, not that that is particularly difficult.
Juddian:
How are you supposed to know whats inside, for many of our brethren driving van/fridge lorries/trailers the reality is that they don’t see the load until they pull off a loading bank, they haven’t a clue whats beyond the two rearmost pallets.
Personally i preferred it when we had flat trailers and could stick the odd pallet upright between some dodgy looking stacks, we could also direct, up to a point, where and which way round we wanted the load as in those days we supervised the loading, even if we didn’t and in the morning arrived to a temporarily sheeted lorry we could see the shape the sheets traced over the load, and with sensible rope placing apply pressure exactly where it was needed, directly to the load or on the sheet between pallets.
Then you go inside and check. Use a bit of common sense
Common sense isn’t allowed in the UK any more, try climbing the load to inspect (how you gonna see over two full width pallets with 18" clearance from the roof?), and short of climbing up a rope suspended from a sky hook and then monkeying along the top of the load how exactly do you do this with a trailer out in the yard?
The reality of the situation doesn’t allow for sense any more, how would you inspect such a load in H&S lunacy land ?
You still secure the load to the best of your ability and if youre still not happy with it then refuse it. H&S got sod all to do with it. End of the day if I’m not happy with the load it ain’t going anywhere