Conor:
Use the chassis or the side rail. Are you seriously telling me you can’t work that out?
Ahh thats classic isn’t it, so you thought you’d try and be clever and come back with alittle bit of attiude to make everyone think your an experienced truck driver who can think on his feet, judging from your reply i take it you’ve never had to worry about load restraint, more use to tippers, fridges etc?
Yes you can go off the chassis but the hook doesn’t sit on the edge properly and your rachet is subjected much more to the [zb] and crap from the road, so fine in the short term not in the long term.
I’ve shifted thousands of tons of timber, hardboard, chipboard, plywood, laminated worktops and all kinds of stuff in curtainsiders.
Better to get your straps covered in crap from the road than have the load come out the side. I’ve never come across a set of straps that couldn’t use the chassis. I’ve come across the odd trailer where you’re stuffed when you get to where the fifth wheel plate is.
Conor:
Use the chassis or the side rail. Are you seriously telling me you can’t work that out?
you can also get far better tension by placing the rachet below the trailer bed so you can pull up on it, it makes the load far more secure
Absolute rubbish.
no it isn’t.
Hooks on the bed are useless but no need to go as far round as the chassis to get good tension. Seeing as their getting so ■■■■ about this sure going off the chassis can’t be allowed as its not designed as an anchor point for the purposes of load resistant?
Just an observation, but how can any curtain be “load bearing”?
They are, by design, secured in a lightweight aluminium channel with little plastic wheels rivetted onto the curtain material.
Can anybody honestly say that they would rely on the curtain holding up to 28 tons?, this is without taking into account the laws of physics.
norfolktrucker:
Just an observation, but how can any curtain be “load bearing”?
They are, by design, secured in a lightweight aluminium channel with little plastic wheels rivetted onto the curtain material.
Can anybody honestly say that they would rely on the curtain holding up to 28 tons?, this is without taking into account the laws of physics.
I rely on the curtain all the time to hold 28 tonne no problem. Pretty rare i do use a strap but if i do it’s normaly for farm implements or plant.
pavaroti:
I rely on the Friction and gravity all the time to hold 28 tonne no problem. Pretty rare i do use a strap but if i do it’s normaly for farm implements or plant.
I brought this up with my boss yesterday,I do a lot of Irish shunts from immingham to Liverpool all of which are sealed and chords all round,I never kno what’s in them because not allowed to break the seal,how do I check the safety of the load,answer I can’t so where do I stand if I get stopped for a check? Also do ewalls with cages car components to Nissan etc,the cages are up inside the roof so aren’t strapped have to raise roof to tip and generally only the back cages are strapped.surely the ewalls are safe aswell cos they usually have the alloy strips inside the curtain about a ft apart all way down.
norfolktrucker:
Just an observation, but how can any curtain be “load bearing”?
They are, by design, secured in a lightweight aluminium channel with little plastic wheels rivetted onto the curtain material.
Can anybody honestly say that they would rely on the curtain holding up to 28 tons?, this is without taking into account the laws of physics.
I would not rely on curtains alone to restrain all loads but to say they are not load bearing at all is just plain wrong, many light loads can be carried safely using well tensioned curtains as restraints.
AHT:
Rope hooks should never be used to secure a load with a ratchet strap they are not designed for it.
If you boss does not providide you wtih decent equiptment (straps) that is his problem, i would never drive a vehicle wtih a load that is not properly secured, you might get away with it for a while but sooner or later it will come off the trailer and stands a good chance of killing someone, cant understand what it is wtih some drivers who things its “cool” not to strap loads down, see wagons on the M6 near me with bulk bags of animal feed on them, with just a scratty bit of rope holding about half the bags, sooner or later they will come off, what is the point of taking the risk two straps on every row would take about 10 mins, hardly a lot of time
That makes sense, can anyone guess what rope hooks are for?
Conor:
Use the chassis or the side rail. Are you seriously telling me you can’t work that out?
you can also get far better tension by placing the rachet below the trailer bed so you can pull up on it, it makes the load far more secure
Absolute rubbish.
no it isn’t.
Hooks on the bed are useless but no need to go as far round as the chassis to get good tension. Seeing as their getting so ■■■■ about this sure going off the chassis can’t be allowed as its not designed as an anchor point for the purposes of load resistant?
Absolute rubbish.
I have simply rearranged the quote.
Where would you fasten the chains if you were carrying a D8 Dozer
I’m getting worried reading some of these posts if guys on here think hooking a strap around a rope hook or side rave is safer than the chassis, if so I’ll be giving most of you a wide berth out in the wild world, where the hell did you learn your trade!
Frankydobo:
I’m getting worried reading some of these posts if guys on here think hooking a strap around a rope hook or side rave is safer than the chassis, if so I’ll be giving most of you a wide berth out in the wild world, where the hell did you learn your trade!
You say that but your the one that looks like an idiot, many rope hooks are designed to be used with ratchet straps and rope, hence why you get different ends on straps. You can clearly tell the difference between ones that are for securing sheets and those that are for securing loads. When roping and sheeting was common practice what do you think you’d loop the end of the rope over .
The ratchet shows the fitting which is to be used with a rope hook style anchor point.
Conor:
Use the chassis or the side rail. Are you seriously telling me you can’t work that out?
you can also get far better tension by placing the rachet below the trailer bed so you can pull up on it, it makes the load far more secure
Absolute rubbish.
no it isn’t.
Hooks on the bed are useless but no need to go as far round as the chassis to get good tension. Seeing as their getting so ■■■■ about this sure going off the chassis can’t be allowed as its not designed as an anchor point for the purposes of load resistant?
Absolute rubbish.
I have simply rearranged the quote.
Where would you fasten the chains if you were carrying a D8 Dozer
Wouldnt use chains, personally i’d throw a rope over it a few times and use double dollys to make sure it was nice and tight.
Frankydobo:
I’m getting worried reading some of these posts if guys on here think hooking a strap around a rope hook or side rave is safer than the chassis, if so I’ll be giving most of you a wide berth out in the wild world, where the hell did you learn your trade!
they didn’t, they just think they know it all. probably because someone that drives a desk sent a memo.
Volvofh16:
I brought this up with my boss yesterday,I do a lot of Irish shunts from immingham to Liverpool all of which are sealed and chords all round,I never kno what’s in them because not allowed to break the seal,how do I check the safety of the load,answer I can’t so where do I stand if I get stopped for a check? Also do ewalls with cages car components to Nissan etc,the cages are up inside the roof so aren’t strapped have to raise roof to tip and generally only the back cages are strapped.surely the ewalls are safe aswell cos they usually have the alloy strips inside the curtain about a ft apart all way down.
I dont really think of it as who would get the bolocking if sompthing happend, I more think could i live with myself if a load came off and killed or injured someone personally I could never take a risk like that so bolocks to seals if your the driver you should check it, if that upsets people then the trailer should stay put
Conor:
Use the chassis or the side rail. Are you seriously telling me you can’t work that out?
you can also get far better tension by placing the rachet below the trailer bed so you can pull up on it, it makes the load far more secure
Absolute rubbish.
no it isn’t.
Hooks on the bed are useless but no need to go as far round as the chassis to get good tension. Seeing as their getting so ■■■■ about this sure going off the chassis can’t be allowed as its not designed as an anchor point for the purposes of load resistant?
Absolute rubbish.
I have simply rearranged the quote.
Where would you fasten the chains if you were carrying a D8 Dozer
Wouldnt use chains, personally i’d throw a rope over it a few times and use double dollys to make sure it was nice and tight.
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