Just a remark, autolit.eu, you will remember
that last website (from Remco Kuiper) as the supplier of your NGC-drivers’ manual I assume?
Your purchased leaflet states (at the back) that CDB also represented Kenworth as a marque, however
no evidence that was the case. Just after WW2 quite some Kenworths are sold by Denonville out of ex-
tensive army-surplus though. Hence the long lasting presence of US-chassis in Belgium.
ERF-Continental:
Just a remark, autolit.eu, you will remember tha
last website (from Remco Kuiper) as the supplier of your NGC-drivers’ manual I assume?
Your purchased leaflet states (at the back) that CDB also represented Kenworth as a marque, however
no evidence that was the case. Just after WW2 quite some Kenworths are sold by Denonville out of ex-
tensive army-surplus though. Hence the long lasting presence of US-chassis in Belgium.
Yes, I was puzzled by the KW picture! Robert
robert1952:
ERF-Continental:
Thank you Robert! By the way…that brochure (4 pages, Dutch) is for sale at ebay, Walter Miller’s, where you
usually can find real gems on documentation for reasonable prices. He is also in for a swap by the way.
ebay.nl/itm/1979-1980-Foden- … 51a918c2b1
Thanks for the tip, A-J. I have just purchased it! This brings my list to 9 - this is a little list I’ve been quietly keeping for a long time. It comprises off-the-peg British 4x2 tractive units with sleeper cabs and 9-speed Fullers, and includes: ERF NGC, ERF C-series, ERF MGC, Sed-Atki 400, Leyland Marathon, Leyland Roadtrain, Bedford TM, Ford Transcontinental and now the Foden 4000. Cheers! Robert
I lost the pedals…no ERF B-series?
robert1952:
Yes, I was puzzled by the KW picture! Robert
Paccar and especially Kenworth (not Peterbilt) was represented in Belgium by Paccar S.A. in
Rue de Genève in Brussels (quite close to CDB) with frequent and impressive exposure on the
Brussels Show…but I think they appointed CDB as dealer for some time. With all ‘irregularities’
on Paccar, DAF Trucks, Foden and Peterbilt on the continent apparently Etn Moorkens (also im-
porters from Pegaso out of the Enasa-group…with links to IHC, and with use of DAF-cabs,
forwarded by DAMCO-Creten -Nedlloyd-group- of Antwerp) was appointed as dealer for Foden.
ERF-Continental:
robert1952:
ERF-Continental:
Thank you Robert! By the way…that brochure (4 pages, Dutch) is for sale at ebay, Walter Miller’s, where you
usually can find real gems on documentation for reasonable prices. He is also in for a swap by the way.
ebay.nl/itm/1979-1980-Foden- … 51a918c2b1
Thanks for the tip, A-J. I have just purchased it! This brings my list to 9 - this is a little list I’ve been quietly keeping for a long time. It comprises off-the-peg British 4x2 tractive units with sleeper cabs and 9-speed Fullers, and includes: ERF NGC, ERF C-series, ERF MGC, Sed-Atki 400, Leyland Marathon, Leyland Roadtrain, Bedford TM, Ford Transcontinental and now the Foden 4000. Cheers! Robert
I lost the pedals…no ERF B-series?
Alas! No B-series. The brochures / spec sheets for LHD B-series all quote 13-speed. Also, I cannot find evidence of a single LHD 4x2 with 9-speed, only 6x4s seem to have had them. Robert
I agree when it comes on the documentation, quite disputable is the “Earls Court”-brochure, the last pages…
but good old Van Steenbergen ran TWO LHD B-series (sleeper) with FULLER RT 9509A as per the B-register.
Some ‘evidence’ on the Fodens stored in CDB-garages, the hall did not change much
The Foden-family will forgive me…as it’s all on Foden…
@Robert, I today read your “Alas, the phenomenon has its own history on a number of threads in this forum.”
ERF-Continental:
I agree when it comes on the documentation, quite disputable is the “Earls Court”-brochure, the last pages…
but good old Van Steenbergen ran TWO LHD B-series (sleeper) with FULLER RT 9509A as per the B-register.
Attached a copy of the picture made by ERF-UK-Staff during their visit at CDB and Van Steenbergen. Location
is the parking at the (still existing) Carestel on the E34 between Turnhout and Antwerp. Also the picture on
the yard with 6 NGCs was made by that crew.
Bingo! You have saved the day! So now we have ten examples. Brilliant! Robert
ERF-Continental:
The Foden-family will forgive me…as it’s all on Foden…
Attached some evidence…but disputable. Anyway, Holland and Belgium
had their differences on gearboxes, despite the DAF with US-bicycle-bell
Excellent evidence! Well found, A-J.
Robert
robert1952:
Tubbysboy:
Limey:
This one appears to be Spanish. Can’t actually see the steering wheel but the wipers are set up for LHD
Limey,
You are correct, Padrosa had several fodens I think they were all cat powered, but might by wrong,
They were based in figueras, and used to have a big depot in barcelona, they joined up / took over “catalan” who used to have a fleet of magnums painted green and yellow.
They (Padrosa) packed up 2 or 3 years ago as they couldn’t survive on today’s rates…
They still have some cranes and a couple of truck stops near girona…
On the ball again, for the second time this evening, Tubbysboy! Many thanks for clarifying that for us. From the evidence we have on this thread, you would be correct in thinking that they were probably CAT-powered IMHO.
The thick pottens! Robert
Thanks Robert !
didn’t Ralph Davies also have a couple of lhd cat Fodens for a time ?
My dad run one, had a wedge shaped one doing Spain back in the early 90’s rhd though with a 350 ■■■■■■■ and it was bloody awful on Tyres, and very unreliable, however I did used to fly along, was so high geared the thing would cruise at 110kmh and still be on the edge of the green band. Unfortunately I have no photos of it.
@ A-J. The RT9509A info for the Van Steenbergen pair means (for me) that two of the most handsome LHD B-series 4x2 units ever, had the best possible gearbox! I should have worked for that Belgian outfit in the '70s / '80s: with the NGCs in the yard, I would have had no fewer than 8 of my favourite ERFs to drive!
Robert
Nice one, ‘Leyland_Marathon’! I’m surprised to see so many: two Dutch ones, a French and an Israeli by the look of it. Well found! Thanks for posting. Cheers, Robert 
ERF-Continental:
Scrolling through this thread again, the attached picture shows some Fodens ‘stored’ at the CDB-garage.
That has to be in about the years 1979-1982. The business was not succesful with only a handful sold.
Without doubt these chassis had a ■■■■■■■ installed and the ‘inlet’ above the headlight is not present,
so that ‘feature’ had to do with Caterpillars installed like the Friderici’s show that inlet
With respect, I’m sure your dates are correct. However, the pictures of the ‘stored’ Fodens at CDB and the pictures in the CDB brochure show Foden 4000s with the S10 Mark 4 cab (1987-1995). Furthermore, they show them with the ‘Hi-line’ wedge shaped roof, which were not introduced until January 1991. As the revised front end of the S10 cab came out in May 1992, it is likely that these pictures were taken in the early '90s.
Just a note on the Kenworth connection: that S10 cab was placed on Fodens following an extensive 2.5 years development period conducted at the Kenworth Technical Centre in Seattle and at Sandbach.
My source of information is Foden Special Vehicles, an astonishingly detailed and carefully researched book by Wobbe Reitsma (Old Pond 2012).
Robert