Boo9729:
Out of interest why do people even bother with POA? ? Just use break all the time, unless someone can tell me otherwise I just don’t see the point in ever using POA.
Some employment contracts will not pay the driver for recorded breaks
Like ROG says, depends if you’re paid by what’s on the card.
Only other odd time I can think of using it, is when it’s to my advantage. e.g. kick a break down the line a bit.
tachograph:
POA doesn’t legally count as break, but a digital tachograph will wrongly count POA as break and reset the driving time on the tachograph display if break/POA reaches 45 minutes.
Your trusted and respected on here so im inclined to believe you. But I thought POA was allowed to be used as break because you were available if needed but not actually working. And as long as it was at least 15 or 30 it counted as a break in driving or work. Is that not why when double manned,if your card is in slot 2 it is on poa and counts towards your break?
How do/did these digi heads get approval, early ones can’t count and some count poa as break!
The differance in driving time between charts, early digi and later digi underminds the principle of an even playing field!
The-Snowman:
Is that not why when double manned,if your card is in slot 2 it is on poa and counts towards your break?
No, it’s because the ■■■■■■■ machine won’t let you record it as break.
The-Snowman:
tachograph:
POA doesn’t legally count as break, but a digital tachograph will wrongly count POA as break and reset the driving time on the tachograph display if break/POA reaches 45 minutes.Your trusted and respected on here so im inclined to believe you. But I thought POA was allowed to be used as break because you were available if needed but not actually working. And as long as it was at least 15 or 30 it counted as a break in driving or work. Is that not why when double manned,if your card is in slot 2 it is on poa and counts towards your break?
Slot 2 of a digital tachograph automatically records POA when the vehicle moves and you cannot change it to break, that’s why it was decided to count the first 45 minutes of POA when the driver is in the passenger seat with the driver card in slot 2 as break, but even when multi-manned it’s only the first 45 minutes of POA that counts as break.
At any other time POA does not count as break or rest.
The-Snowman:
tachograph:
POA doesn’t legally count as break, but a digital tachograph will wrongly count POA as break and reset the driving time on the tachograph display if break/POA reaches 45 minutes.Your trusted and respected on here so im inclined to believe you. But I thought POA was allowed to be used as break because you were available if needed but not actually working. And as long as it was at least 15 or 30 it counted as a break in driving or work. Is that not why when double manned,if your card is in slot 2 it is on poa and counts towards your break?
poa and break are different things, poa doesn’t count as a break. unless as you say you’re double manning, because you can’t select break in a moving vehicle, so the 1st 45 minutes of poa in the 2nd slot count as break.