Is worth to set up as owner courier van?

Another quote from the same forum! :open_mouth:

I went to my local DHL depot last July but the 50pplm put me off and that was before all the diesel increases we have had since last summer

Jeezus H Christ! There’s no end of mugs on that forum! :open_mouth:

elf Employed / Owner Drivers
Salary: Up to £500.00 per week
Location: Croydon (CR0)
Job Reference: Totaljobs/KW/DAT/SEOD/09052011
Job type: Contract
Date posted: 25/05/2011 12:09:34

TNT Special Services, a successful division of the UK leaders in express delivery, urgently require experienced Self Employed drivers in the Croydon area to deliver business to business parcels on a sameday basis.
If you are able to carry out deliveries throughout the UK and support our 24 hour, 7 day a week operation, we want to hear from you.
Ownership of a small van is ideal but not necessary as we can put you in contact with preferred suppliers from whom you can rent or purchase a van at competitive rates. No cars.
Goods in Transit Insurance up to £15,000 and Public Liability Insurance up to £1,000,000 is essential.
Operating hours are between 08:00-20:00 however flexibility will be required as it is a 24hr operation.
Potential earnings up to £500.00 per week
So if this sounds like you, move your career forward and call with full details of your driving experience and vehicle now.
TNT are an equal opportunities employer

Up to £500? ■■■■■■■ parasites! :smiling_imp:

ā€œup to Ā£500 per weekā€ Isn’t ā€œup toā€ agency speak for ā€œnowhere ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  nearā€?

44 Tonne Ton:
elf Employed / Owner Drivers
Salary: Up to £500.00 per week
Location: Croydon (CR0)

When I was working for a Surrey courier co I earned ā€œup to Ā£500 per weekā€ as well.

In 1992.

On a Kawasaki 550.

44 Tonne Ton:
elf Employed / Owner Drivers
Salary: Up to £500.00 per week
Location: Croydon (CR0)
Job Reference: Totaljobs/KW/DAT/SEOD/09052011
Job type: Contract
Date posted: 25/05/2011 12:09:34

TNT Special Services, a successful division of the UK leaders in express delivery, urgently require experienced Self Employed drivers in the Croydon area to deliver business to business parcels on a sameday basis.
If you are able to carry out deliveries throughout the UK and support our 24 hour, 7 day a week operation, we want to hear from you.
Ownership of a small van is ideal but not necessary as we can put you in contact with preferred suppliers from whom you can rent or purchase a van at competitive rates. No cars.
Goods in Transit Insurance up to £15,000 and Public Liability Insurance up to £1,000,000 is essential.
Operating hours are between 08:00-20:00 however flexibility will be required as it is a 24hr operation.
Potential earnings up to £500.00 per week
So if this sounds like you, move your career forward and call with full details of your driving experience and vehicle now.
TNT are an equal opportunities employer

Up to £500? [zb] parasites! :smiling_imp:

There’ll be some mug(s) queueing up for it, I’ll bet you any money you like.

I used to be a motorcycle and van courier. It’s a one-way ticket to being flat-broke. The rates never keep up with the real world.

As a quick rule of thumb take that 500 quid turnover and halve it, then divide it by 60+ hours. Would you work for that?

There are the odd courier jobs worth doing, but they are very, very rare.

My brother has had a courier firm in the SE of England since 1979. At its peak in the late 80’s he had ten offices around the M25, now that is down to two :open_mouth: . The main reason being that the next day parcel and pallet carriers have killed the job, also as in the haulage game there is always someone who will cut the rates :imp: .
Most of his drivers all ownerdrivers are Brazilian, and all the jobs have to be relayed to them by text, to stop cockups!
Saying all this though he still has one or two good customers who are prepared to pay the rates he charges for a good service. I did a job from Plzen back to London for him last week in a hired fridge van, he paid all the costs and me £750, but jobs like that are very few and far between :frowning:
As has been said there is work to be had from LHR but it does tend to be who you know or recommendation, as to if you can get some worth doing.
I’m back to reality this week as an owner driver at Fedex scratching a living, and winging about the rates and costs.

cypry0:
Most of his drivers all ownerdrivers are Brazilian, and all the jobs have to be relayed to them by text, to stop cockups!

Funny you should mention it. We had a couple of Brazillian rookies on the circuit when I gave up. Controller’s time was devoted disproportionately to issuing job instructions to them :unamused: I don’t know if their cheapness balanced the loss of accounts though. :confused:

macplaxton:

cypry0:
Most of his drivers all ownerdrivers are Brazilian, and all the jobs have to be relayed to them by text, to stop cockups!

Funny you should mention it. We had a couple of Brazillian rookies on the circuit when I gave up. Controller’s time was devoted disproportionately to issuing job instructions to them :unamused: I don’t know if their cheapness balanced the loss of accounts though. :confused:

I agree they aren’t the best every thing done on satnav, but for the money you earn on sameday now they seem to be the only ones prepared to put in the hours. They will rent a house between a group of them so the living costs are kept down, then go home for carnival when the taxman comes calling :open_mouth:

55Pppm sounds like City sprint on the right van it can pay but just barely something foes wrong and its a loosing week about 2 years ago you could earn a comforatble living from it as work was plenty full now work is very scarce and sone of the rates are scary 600 incl ferry isn’t that far out but you up against foregin vans courier work is much much more cut throught than haulage also people with regular loads coming back to the UK have been known to run out on a silly rate even if it covers the ferry oh 55ppm will be for a small van

Ok I was on DHL same day the 50ppm was for a small combo type van and I did earn good money usually after expensises Iwas takeing 450 pw for myself and bit for horiffic hrs that said work was plentyful and we has the bank work which was usuually 600+ perweek and you only used on tank of juice

On another note when you become selfemployed you don’t look at your hourly rate many do it for the lifestyle and know they will never get rich doing it . If there was enough work about id go back to it quite happily yes the hrs can be long and as my father was at the same place got the real story of how things worked why did i give up simple i saw the business slipping and jumped before it got to quiet

average for local @ 2 quid a drop, to do 90 drops would take aprox 12 hours and 70 quid in fuel = 110 quid left a day but then take out wear and tear, insurances etc.
Its a total loss you would be lucky to clear 200 quid a week then after a year or so you need a new van.
Little tip though, just get a van and register on a personal plate, then they do not know how old the van is

Rob K:

Andydisco:
chap down the road from me does it after getting the boot from some computer place and blowing his redundancy on a van he’s never home . and doing the job for something daft like 55p a mile was moaning in the pub on sat night that the week before he did redruth, up to inverness, then back down to glasgow for a drop at heathrow over 2 days and reckoned on a good week hes taking home Ā£300 after taking out his diesel,insurance ni /tax etc and thats for 100 hours

:unamused:

When will people learn there’s no money in haulage. All the cream/niche jobs are covered and heavily protected leaving the scraps for everyone else. 55ppm on a van is about the equivalent of 100ppm on an artic once you factor everything in. Muppets/mugs (delete as appropriate).

Rubbish, while I agree there’s no money in haulage, your comparison is way out,
Van 30mpg, truck 8/10 mpg, tax 165/ truck alot more depending on what truck, truck cost about 4 times, maintenance, need i go on, if you’d said 250ppm, you may have been a bit nearer the mark.