Indicators

There would be someone on here watching from a distance just so they can whinge about it :unamused:

Whilst taking my class D test I indicated right turn as I was taking the third exit from a roundabout and was failed on that. That was 11 years ago.

waddy640:
Whilst taking my class D test I indicated right turn as I was taking the third exit from a roundabout and was failed on that. That was 11 years ago.

Thatā€™s bloody harsh! How could they fail you for that? Imo you were absolutely correct in the you were turning right and you were giving other road users advance warning of your intentions.

Maybe we should ask ā€œwho tests the tester?ā€

waddy640:
Whilst taking my class D test I indicated right turn as I was taking the third exit from a roundabout and was failed on that. That was 11 years ago.

Canā€™t see why, I did the same and passed mine, 14 or so years ago, and my C and C+E and motorbike and carā€¦

dri-diddly-iver:
If you used it when not necessary though i.e. on a motorway at 03:00 and nothing around could it be assumed that you are not aware of your surroundings??

Possibly, but who cares? Like I said, I just do it, itā€™s as much a reaction as putting a seatbelt on or closing the door.

Also, as Iā€™ve said before and to previous people, my bike is capable of 172mph and itā€™s not the fastest vehicle out there. Are you telling me that at no point would your eyes be off the mirror long enough for me to have appeared behind you, then just as Iā€™m about to pass you, you pull out with no indication because ā€˜there was nothing to indicate toā€™.

Move finger, stalk does a little click, change lane / proceed on roundabout or junction or whatever, move finger, stalk does another little clickā€¦ Oh my god, the effort. Maybe if more drivers did this exercise then thereā€™d be less obesity :unamused:

His reason was that there were lane markings and therefore it wasnā€™t necessary to indicate, but there were two other exits from the same lane prior to mine.

Thatā€™s probably the reason many drivers in East Anglia donā€™t bother.

Score out the Reading bit in the OP and replace with UK. Eddie.

waddy640:
His reason was that there were lane markings and therefore it wasnā€™t necessary to indicate, but there were two other exits from the same lane prior to mine.

Thatā€™s probably the reason many drivers in East Anglia donā€™t bother.

So, youā€™d fail if you indicated right in the right lane there then? Itā€™s a marked laneā€¦

waddy640:
His reason was that there were lane markings and therefore it wasnā€™t necessary to indicate,

I can sort of see what he meant by that. Maybe Iā€™m wrongly assuming it was you HGV test? If it was then the examiner is an idiot as we all know that due to the sheer size of a lorry itā€™s sometimes necessary to position ourselves slightly in the ā€œwrongā€ lane to carry out a manoeuvre, in which case the use of indicators becomes (imo) vitally important to warn other road users.

So, half wit examiner fails driver for sensibly confirming his intentions, why am i not bloody surprised.

Agree with Waynedl, its a good habit to be in to indicate properly, doesnā€™t matter how observant you are its too easy to miss someone, and the effort required to flick the blasted indicator stalk isnā€™t worth mentioning.

If there are lane markings as above I was told many years ago that as it is a ā€˜compulsoryā€™ right/left turn indicators are not necessary and could/would result in a fail. I argued that people in front waiting at junction canā€™t see if itā€™s a compulsory turn for me.

waynedl:

albion1971:
What is deeply worrying now is that they are been taught to only indicators if other road are visible(pedestrians vehicles cyclists) and all this forms part of the Driving test. Easy to see now how indicators become non existant in their use.

Where did you hear that from? As far as I am aware this is completely untrue.When doing some types of advanced courses they may use the fact that an indicator is not required if it does not benefit another road user but certainly not for a complete novice.

On the other side of the coin why do some use indicators when it is not necessary?

Itā€™s true, I was told by a driving instructor / HGV driver on the CB during a discussion about the use of indicators.

Point 2, habit, itā€™s not hard to use an indicator so why not use it all the time, then you wonā€™t NOT use it when required. Read above :unamused:

I would be really surprised if that is true and am sure it is not.Maybe Rog can confirm as he is more up to date than me?

Regarding examiners Juddian they are the ones sitting beside a novice driver and they would only fail a driver if his or her signal confused a situation and caused potential danger.They do not fail people for signalling correctly.
There are certainly some drivers that overuse their indicators and do more harm than good.

the maoster:

waddy640:
His reason was that there were lane markings and therefore it wasnā€™t necessary to indicate,

I can sort of see what he meant by that. Maybe Iā€™m wrongly assuming it was you HGV test? If it was then the examiner is an idiot as we all know that due to the sheer size of a lorry itā€™s sometimes necessary to position ourselves slightly in the ā€œwrongā€ lane to carry out a manoeuvre, in which case the use of indicators becomes (imo) vitally important to warn other road users.

It was a 12 metre or 39ā€™ 4" in English money coach. The other point I failed on was downhill start. He stated that IF I had been fully laden I would have been in too higher gear. He did not explain before the test that I had to pretend I had 57 passengers on board.

The other day as I was waiting to pull right out of a junction onto a main road, and the amount of drivers turning into the junction who start to indicate a car length or so from the junction left me wondering what the point was. They might think themselves good drivers for indicating - at the last moment - but, still indicators are for indicating your intention, not what the vehicle is doing at that point.

Anyways, trundled off down the road and forgot about itā€¦

waddy640:

the maoster:

waddy640:
His reason was that there were lane markings and therefore it wasnā€™t necessary to indicate,

I can sort of see what he meant by that. Maybe Iā€™m wrongly assuming it was you HGV test? If it was then the examiner is an idiot as we all know that due to the sheer size of a lorry itā€™s sometimes necessary to position ourselves slightly in the ā€œwrongā€ lane to carry out a manoeuvre, in which case the use of indicators becomes (imo) vitally important to warn other road users.

It was a 12 metre or 39ā€™ 4" in English money coach. The other point I failed on was downhill start. He stated that IF I had been fully laden I would have been in too higher gear. He did not explain before the test that I had to pretend I had 57 passengers on board.

Maybe it was your instructors fault regarding the downhill start? I always find it amusing that when people pass their test the instructor and examiner were great but if they fail its always someone elses faultā€¦never theresā€¦ :unamused:

They are legally a requirement to be fitted, but south of reading we not obliged to use them :laughing: as we are tight fisted barstewards, we try and save the bulbs for emergencies.

waynedl:

albion1971:
What is deeply worrying now is that they are been taught to only indicators if other road are visible(pedestrians vehicles cyclists) and all this forms part of the Driving test. Easy to see now how indicators become non existant in their use.

Where did you hear that from? As far as I am aware this is completely untrue.When doing some types of advanced courses they may use the fact that an indicator is not required if it does not benefit another road user but certainly not for a complete novice.

On the other side of the coin why do some use indicators when it is not necessary?

Itā€™s true, I was told by a driving instructor / HGV driver on the CB during a discussion about the use of indicators.

Point 2, habit, itā€™s not hard to use an indicator so why not use it all the time, then you wonā€™t NOT use it when required. Read above :unamused:

On the other hand, why indicate if thereā€™s no-one to indicate too? Which I think is the idea behind that.
However, I think it takes a bit of practice at driving before you can judge that properly, so instructors should teach correct use of the indicators and examiners should mark you down for not using them, as a minor. 6 repeated minors = major = fail, is it?

dri-diddly-iver:
There would be someone on here watching from a distance just so they can whinge about it :unamused:

You could be indicating to yourself !
A bit like singing or talking to yourself (Iā€™m sure no one else on here does that. Lol)

Some of the roundabouts in MK are fairly big with lots of room & thereā€™s a lot of ā€˜Formula One Racing Driversā€™ who are concentrating on keeping the car upright on roundabouts, thereā€™s no way theyā€™ve got time to indicate as well.

Weā€™ll be expecting School Run Mums & Rush Hour traffic to let us out of side turnings next, even though they are sat in stationary traffic. Lol.

Certainly when I did my car lessons in 1986 I was told not to indicate if there was nobody to indicate to - I passed my test, but as it was Colchester town centre, there was never a point when there was nobody to indicate to. I always use my indicators now, but agree that they are fast dying out.

Yesterday I came out of purfleet, up to the double roundabout over the a13. Coming towards me, in his left hand lane and no indication was a BMW, I carried straight on, only to find him now turning right and having to stop as my trailer was across his path. I suggested that he might like to try some indicators, and he thanked me by inviting me in for a coffee. Tbh, I donā€™t get wound up by it any more, I was always told to drive as though every body else in the roads was an ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– , and it seems to be getting truer and truer these days!

Gary

The roads are safer in iraq than they are around any major city

HOW DID I MISS THIS THREADā€¦ this is my favourite subject, well except for ā– ā– ā– ā€¦ and footieā€¦ and beerā€¦ and ā– ā– ā– . ohhh you know what i mean !! :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

If the dullards of this world just bothered to indicate at all then its a given fact that the traffic would flow faster and they would all get to where ever there self important little lives needed them to be.

As i have mentioned in previous threads: if you dont indicate i ignore your direction. This may (and has!) become a shock to you when i coming around the outside lane turning right and i pull out.

As a side issue have any of you noticed how when you indicate at a roundabout the 3 cars behind you do it as wellā€¦ weird huh :smiley: