Whirlwind:
What purpose would the death penalty serve… these men hung around for 15 minutes waiting to be killed .
In this case, it would
(1) Make the public very happy right now
(2) Avenge the death at near zero cost
(3) Cost the tax payer nothing in terms of ongoing-prison care, and they’d also not be available for a later “Prisoner release sceheme” of some description, like the good friday agreement was.
(4) We’d get to find out who the seditious elements of society are, so they can be in turn arrested. Anyone calling the culprits being shot dead “martyrs” would fit that description as I’ve previously mentioned.
(5) They’re guaranteed never to harm anyone else again.
So-called “Martyrdom” is still considered as “cool”, especially among the wider muslim community who think they really have nothing to do or prevent among their own loose cannon “radicalised” members. This thinking needs to be driven out of their minds so that the entire issue of “martyrdom” becomes as socially unacceptable to the muslim community just the same way wider society thinks of paedophilla as “totally unacceptable”.
ajt:
‘…All these loons want is media attention…’
Sadly it’s not that simple 
Such ‘loons’ want much more than ‘media attention’ 
Wise to be very mindful of the bigger picture as we mourn Lee’s murdered life.
Winseer:
Whirlwind:
What purpose would the death penalty serve… these men hung around for 15 minutes waiting to be killed .
In this case, it would
(1) Make the public very happy right now
(2) Avenge the death at near zero cost
(3) Cost the tax payer nothing in terms of ongoing-prison care, and they’d also not be available for a later “Prisoner release sceheme” of some description, like the good friday agreement was.
(4) We’d get to find out who the seditious elements of society are, so they can be in turn arrested. Anyone calling the culprits being shot dead “martyrs” would fit that description as I’ve previously mentioned.
(5) They’re guaranteed never to harm anyone else again.
So-called “Martyrdom” is still considered as “cool”, especially among the wider muslim community who think they really have nothing to do or prevent among their own loose cannon “radicalised” members. This thinking needs to be driven out of their minds so that the entire issue of “martyrdom” becomes as socially unacceptable to the muslim community just the same way wider society thinks of paedophilla as “totally unacceptable”.
+1
At the moment we are having to pay for the scum to be treated by people who in there minds don’t want to help him, but have to. He will then get put in jail where it will then cost us more in tax payers money, but on the plus side he will get beaten on a daily basis by other inmates for what he did.
Something needs to be done to show this kind of action won’t get you any where.
I have this gut feeling that there will be a civil war in this country where people will be attacked and hurt. I will also think that the Woolwich incident will be forgotten in years to come, but still be able to remember Stephen Lawrence’s death though.
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Everytime I look at pics of those pieces of ■■■■ that literally butchered that young lad it brings out feelings of agression that I didn’t know I had, they should have just put the ■■■■■■■■ down like they would a savage dog, at least my tax money would not be subsidising keeping the ■■■■■■■■ alive 
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The lad was the same age as my eldest boy, and I can only begin to imagine what his poor parents are going through reading the savagery their son went through before dying.
RIP Lee you did not deserve what happened to you.
I cried, and its still raw with me now.I lost a lot of mates serving in various places.
R.I.P. Lee.
Whirlwind, of course the death penalty is a deterrent.
Killing these 2 would deter them from doing it again.
As for them staying in prison for the rest of their natural, that’s just laughable, it won’t happen and you know it.
The public are not stupid but they are sick to death of things like this happening.
You carry on in your PC world, all sitting round in a cicle singing Kumbya.
neilg14:
As for them staying in prison for the rest of their natural, that’s just laughable, it won’t happen and you know it.
that depends on how long they live. im sure prisoners will be just as disgusted as the rest of us so fingers crossed a prison sentence is a death sentence for those 2
neilg14:
Whirlwind, of course the death penalty is a deterrent.
Killing these 2 would deter them from doing it again.
As for them staying in prison for the rest of their natural, that’s just laughable, it won’t happen and you know it.
The public are not stupid but they are sick to death of things like this happening.
You carry on in your PC world, all sitting round in a cicle singing Kumbya.
In which country is there zero murders because of the death penalty? ?
Ofc they will die in prison as they are BRITISH , I would agree with you if it wasn’t for that fact.
There is no one singing kumbya in my circle because I live in a realist circle that doesn’t jump on bandwagons when 1 man is killed , shame no bandwagons were jumped on when our soldiers were killing iraqi and Afghanistan citizens. . If our government didn’t poke their noses in we wouldn’t even be discussing this topic
Whirlwind:
neilg14:
Whirlwind, of course the death penalty is a deterrent.
Killing these 2 would deter them from doing it again.
As for them staying in prison for the rest of their natural, that’s just laughable, it won’t happen and you know it.
The public are not stupid but they are sick to death of things like this happening.
You carry on in your PC world, all sitting round in a cicle singing Kumbya.
In which country is there zero murders because of the death penalty? ?
Ofc they will die in prison as they are BRITISH , I would agree with you if it wasn’t for that fact.
There is no one singing kumbya in my circle because I live in a realist circle that doesn’t jump on bandwagons when 1 man is killed , shame no bandwagons were jumped on when our soldiers were killing iraqi and Afghanistan citizens. . If our government didn’t poke their noses in we wouldn’t even be discussing this topic
Says the person who lives in a country where some states have the death penalty 
Whirlwind:
neilg14:
Whirlwind, of course the death penalty is a deterrent.
Killing these 2 would deter them from doing it again.
As for them staying in prison for the rest of their natural, that’s just laughable, it won’t happen and you know it.
The public are not stupid but they are sick to death of things like this happening.
You carry on in your PC world, all sitting round in a cicle singing Kumbya.
In which country is there zero murders because of the death penalty? ?
Ofc they will die in prison as they are BRITISH , I would agree with you if it wasn’t for that fact.
There is no one singing kumbya in my circle because I live in a realist circle that doesn’t jump on bandwagons when 1 man is killed , shame no bandwagons were jumped on when our soldiers were killing iraqi and Afghanistan citizens. . If our government didn’t poke their noses in we wouldn’t even be discussing this topic
so if our goverment didnt poke there noses in every thing would be fine ? dont think so these people are fanatics and im sure if we hadnt have got involved in afghan things wouldnt be any better the title of this thread is in respect of drummer rigby so y cant people just think off that as oppose to the rights n wrongs of our goverment please be respectfull R I P drummer rigby
Whirlwind:
I live near Sheffield 
I think I had seen a post stating you lived in US. Take it back 
either way if you think about it. If the scum got 10 years inside he will only do 5 years
Winseer:
Whirlwind:
What purpose would the death penalty serve… these men hung around for 15 minutes waiting to be killed .
In this case, it would
(1) Make the public very happy right now
(2) Avenge the death at near zero cost
(3) Cost the tax payer nothing in terms of ongoing-prison care, and they’d also not be available for a later “Prisoner release sceheme” of some description, like the good friday agreement was.
(4) We’d get to find out who the seditious elements of society are, so they can be in turn arrested. Anyone calling the culprits being shot dead “martyrs” would fit that description as I’ve previously mentioned.
(5) They’re guaranteed never to harm anyone else again.
So-called “Martyrdom” is still considered as “cool”, especially among the wider muslim community who think they really have nothing to do or prevent among their own loose cannon “radicalised” members. This thinking needs to be driven out of their minds so that the entire issue of “martyrdom” becomes as socially unacceptable to the muslim community just the same way wider society thinks of paedophilla as “totally unacceptable”.
In this case it’s an immigration issue not a terrorist issue.
As I’ve said previously the electric chair ( or maybe bring that up to date with a microwave ) in cases such as this to provide a deterrent in regards to ‘others’ and then sort out the immigration issue including forgetting all about the idea of such people being regarded as British even if they are born here.You won’t drive their thinking out of their minds because that thinking is in their genetic make up.
It’s ironic that we’ve sent troops into places like Afghanistan to wage war against such thinking in their own back yard while then letting them into our own country.Which just leaves the irony of the government and the forces shooting the so called Taliban in their own place while at the same time calling those who support the ideas of the EDL here racists for wanting them all sent home where they belong where they won’t be threat to anyone here. 
monarch of the highway:
Whirlwind:
neilg14:
Whirlwind, of course the death penalty is a deterrent.
Killing these 2 would deter them from doing it again.
As for them staying in prison for the rest of their natural, that’s just laughable, it won’t happen and you know it.
The public are not stupid but they are sick to death of things like this happening.
You carry on in your PC world, all sitting round in a cicle singing Kumbya.
In which country is there zero murders because of the death penalty? ?
Ofc they will die in prison as they are BRITISH , I would agree with you if it wasn’t for that fact.
There is no one singing kumbya in my circle because I live in a realist circle that doesn’t jump on bandwagons when 1 man is killed , shame no bandwagons were jumped on when our soldiers were killing iraqi and Afghanistan citizens. . If our government didn’t poke their noses in we wouldn’t even be discussing this topic
so if our goverment didnt poke there noses in every thing would be fine ? dont think so these people are fanatics and im sure if we hadnt have got involved in afghan things wouldnt be any better the title of this thread is in respect of drummer rigby so y cant people just think off that as oppose to the rights n wrongs of our goverment please be respectfull R I P drummer rigby
If you want to be respectful to the victim in this case then discussing the ideals and the ridiculous government policies in regards to immigration and foreign policy that put him in that position are all relevant.
Monarch of the highway nobody has been disrespectful to the dead soldier or his family , this isn’t facebook .
Mickeyblue I thought I read somewhere that your an ex police officer , I’ll take it back since a pc or ex pc would know that 1st degree murder carries a mandatory life sentence.
Blowing these psychopaths away or frying them in chairs will have 'em queueing up because in their world they will be immortilized forever, heroes for the cause etc etc.
They hung around so that the cops would enter a gunfight with them and then they will die a glorious death.
So we will just have to put them away forever and yet again ■■■■ up the costs and take it on the chin.
R.I.P. Lee, you poor bloke, you so didn’t deserve to die this way.
Whirlwind:
Monarch of the highway nobody has been disrespectful to the dead soldier or his family , this isn’t facebook .
Mickeyblue I thought I read somewhere that your an ex police officer , I’ll take it back since a pc or ex pc would know that 1st degree murder carries a mandatory life sentence.
I think “he will get 10 years but only do 5” is only an example. How do you know what he would get. There was an article, and I know it’s nothing compared to Lee’s death, but it was about an Asian lad (18) who had raped a 13 year old and was spared jail due to “Not knowing it was wrong to ■■■■ a girl of 13” and blamed his schooling. Judge let him off and just gave him a 2 year suspended sentence.
He will get a large sentence trust me, I will give you another example for you to why I think he would.
A gent murders another bloke on a street and get’s 15 years. - No public interest in that
The bloke who murdered Tia Green the young girl from Croydon (Hometown) gets 38 years which means he will die inside (Good thing) - He had the whole town on his back and due to high pressure of public interest he get’s to spend the rest of his life inside.
Now this pants about being ex PC blah blah blah. PC’s are out to catch them. It’s down to the overpaid judges to sentence them not the PC’s
Socketset:
Blowing these psychopaths away or frying them in chairs will have 'em queueing up because in their world they will be immortilized forever, heroes for the cause etc etc.
They hung around so that the cops would enter a gunfight with them and then they will die a glorious death.
So we will just have to put them away forever and yet again ■■■■ up the costs and take it on the chin.
I think they hung around because they wanted the publicity safe in the knowledge that they’d be treated according to their human rights and at worse face a clean quick end from a bullet.As for frying them somehow I think they’d soon get the message that there’s nothing glorious about leaving this world in such a way.Although,of course,the problem wouldn’t exist if we had a different immigration policy,which is the real issue,and stopped bothering with wasting lives and money on shooting them in their own back yard.Which is what,in their view,is actually making them immortalized forever when they take action against it regardless of wether it’s on the streets here or in the wastelands of Afghan.
Although as I’ve said it’s ironic that the government and the forces would probably regard those with my views concerning immigration policy,( which make no mistake is the real cause of the problem on the streets here ),as being so called ‘racist’ while being happy enough to shoot the ‘Taliban’ in their own back yard,where they’re no threat to us,when it suits them.