And a aussie with an american passport is telling us to leave 
i wonder why??
alicks77:
You say global warmist? Does that mean full of hot air making earth average temperature rise causing climate change. Or he believes like most of the world in climate change?Just for clarification purposes.
Those who are stupid enough to believe that Venus was cooked by the content of its atmosphere not its pressure.Or that the zb weather we’re getting every recent Summer isn’t evidence of cooling in anything.
As I said if you want to impose global warmism on everyone then at least get an electoral mandate for it.Remind us all what was the Greens vote at the last election.Although Germany seems happy enough to preach while building loads of coal fired power stations.As for Sturgeon she’s all about preaching the global warmist cause but no surprise with an economic policy based on flogging off the country’s oil reserves to be burnt in Europe while putting Scots on bicycles.
andy187:
And a aussie with an american passport is telling us to leavei wonder why??
You mean the same Aussie who supported Europhile Thatcher’s and Blair’s campaigns.Didn’t hear any complaints from the Europhiles then.
I can’t work it if you are saying global warming is fake or not. Venus is not the planet I am talking about, that may be where you are from but I am an earth boy.
If so I think you should have your own topic of all your theories because I’ve had a tough day and need a laugh. Plus you might educate me and others on stories from the inside of the tin foil hat.
Another question. Are you a david Icke fan?
please god - not the Venus thing again.
alicks77:
I can’t work it if you are saying global warming is fake or not. Venus is not the planet I am talking about, that may be where you are from but I am an earth boy.If so I think you should have your own topic of all your theories because I’ve had a tough day and need a laugh. Plus you might educate me and others on stories from the inside of the tin foil hat.
Another question. Are you a david Icke fan?
Yes Global Warming is a bs theory put up by people like Carl Sagan.Remind us where he got his ideas from.Don’t bother I’ve done it for you.
aip.org/history/climate/Venus.htm
telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu … ation.html
No I’m not an Icke follower but who needs him when there are people who believe zb Sagan.A science fiction writer no surprise coming up with a work of fiction.
No answer to the question related to the Green vote at the last election I notice.
Are you sure you’re on the right forum instead of something more suited to the Green/Socialist cause. 
Bluey Circles:
please god - not the Venus thing again.
Oh look on cue another believer jumps in.Yes Venus inconvenient isn’t it being that’s where the theory took off.
The EU the place where the dictatorial Socialist and Green rabble hope to multiply their vote by adding it to that of every other European State then to apply the sum total here.
SEDriver:
In the words of Duncan Bannatyne…I’m Out!
I even have a £500 bet on it at 6/4! £1250.00 if it happens!
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/remain-vote-percentage
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/turnout-percentage
I’ve had a bash at these two… Got 40-1 on “Remain getting less than 40% of the vote”
and
20-1 on “Turnout being over 80% in the referendum”.
Both with BaldFred.
The prices have since shortened, but are still quite large - may well be some value left there.
andy187:
And a aussie with an american passport is telling us to leavei wonder why??
Maybe it’s a remain plot - “Murdoch wants us to leave, and we all hate him - so I’m changing my vote to Remain!” kinda argument…
Winseer:
andy187:
And a aussie with an american passport is telling us to leavei wonder why??
Maybe it’s a remain plot - “Murdoch wants us to leave, and we all hate him - so I’m changing my vote to Remain!” kinda argument…
That would explain the seemingly strange and too convenient change from Europhile Thatcher and Blair as well as anything.
While the argument for out in my case is more a case now of is it worth the bother of trying to save a country which seems hell bent of being a state of Juncker’s USE.IE it’s no longer a nation with a common aim of being a nation in its own right any longer with far too few on the side of nation v the too many on the side of USE even if leave miraculously wins it.
"Here are pretty much the only notable people who think we should leave the EU:
• Boris Johnson, who probably doesn’t really care either way, but knows he’ll become Prime Minister if the country votes to leave
• A former Secretary of State for Work and Pensions who carried out a brutal regime of cuts to benefits and essential support for the poorest in society as well as the disabled and sick
• The guy who was Education Secretary and every single teacher in the country hated with a furious passion for the damage he was doing to the education system
• Leader of UKIP
• BNP
• Britain First
• Donald Trump
• Keith Chegwin
• David Icke
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The problem with this kind of argument is that anyone of “prominence” who’s not in favour of toeing the international status quo line here - isn’t “Prominent enough” to make this list any more.
If you do any digging for yourself though - there are people of vast wealth in favour of Brexit - but they get glossed over because some unelected “officialdom” mouthpiece got their negative argument in against Brexit first.
Ask yourself the question “Which three persons on planet Earth do you consider yourself to be most influenced by right now”?
If they are not regular column-inches people - you might like to look up where they stand on Brexit…
Let’s leave politicians, celebrities, economists, and bureaucrats out of this… I reckon the Chinese business community needs to be listened to for starters, bearing in mind we should take a good look at ALL the nations we intend “setting up extra trade routes with” following Brexit…
Firms like GE getting shirty about Vote Leave using their logos on their literature though - are beneath contempt. A bit like the daft attempts by Getty Images to extort money out of people via threatening letters regarding “Copyright violations” for copying and pasting their pics on facebook.
Funny how the same people don’t bleat at all when it’s their propaganda pics that are being circulated…
The Zionists would have us believe that Farage is another Hitler in waiting for example…
If we do vote out,will i have to cover the eu logo on my ■■■■■■■■■ reg plate ?
Consider yourself “Center” or “Center Right”? -
…or are you still a Hardline Labour supporter?
Debunking the scare stories - Cross party speakers.
Jeremy Clarkson: My gut says stay in the EU
anon84679660:
Jeremy Clarkson: My gut says stay in the EU
What? 
You mean 2 consumers (James May as well) with pots of money and no need to work or earn a living want us to stay?
Well what are the chances of that!
anon84679660:
Jeremy Clarkson: My gut says stay in the EU
What a surprise. The pro Clarkson Cameron gets support from the pro Cameron Clarkson.
youtube.com/watch?v=gILTIDr4Ra8
Brexit, facts not fear
bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qsh … des/player
BBCs "More or Less". Seems to me to be a fairly unbiased set of facts and figures. And where no good reliable figures are available they say so. (How unlike politicians).This whole referendum "debate" is really showing some of our politicians in their true, unappealing, colours isnt it?
Hopefully the above link may help anyone looking for facts to make up their mind. Doubtless some on this will listen to the above podcasts (5 of them in nice 11minute slices) and say:
- Obviously biased “for”
- Obviously biased “against”
- Can
t be true because its the BBC. - Must be true because it`s the BBC.
- Not biased because it supports what I already believe in.
- Biased because it shows evidence against what I already believe.
- And some may see it for an attempt to cut thro the bovine excrement being thrown about by others. Obviously that`s me and you too dear reader! (Well, most of you anyway)
Franglais:
BBC Radio 4 - More or Less - Available nowBBC
s "More or Less". Seems to me to be a fairly unbiased set of facts and figures. And where no good reliable figures are available they say so. (How unlike politicians).This whole referendum "debate" is really showing some of our politicians in their true, unappealing, colours isnt it?
Hopefully the above link may help anyone looking for facts to make up their mind. Doubtless some on this will listen to the above podcasts (5 of them in nice 11minute slices) and say:
- Obviously biased “for”
- Obviously biased “against”
- Can
t be true because its the BBC.- Must be true because it`s the BBC.
- Not biased because it supports what I already believe in.
- Biased because it shows evidence against what I already believe.
- And some may see it for an attempt to cut thro the bovine excrement being thrown about by others. Obviously that`s me and you too dear reader! (Well, most of you anyway)
Can’t be bothered to listen to another minute of pro EU BBC propaganda or anything which is trying to suggest that the EU isn’t anything other than a net burden on our economy regards trade balance and ‘contributions’.Or a net loss of sovereignty regards government accountability.
On that note the usual question applies.What could possibly be the motivation for anyone wanting to impose the idea of Federation over Nation State which is what the argument comes down to.