CookieMonster:
The issue isn’t about o/p going to work, just like the type of work is irrelevant, I think what most people, including myself, take umbrage with is the flippant attitude towards potential harm caused to others by his ‘I don’t care’ stance. If someone isn’t bothered about getting it, or it’s effects, then can you trust them to take reasonable precautions to protect others? I doubt itSent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
Massive +1
Exactly that point.
If criticising someone for not being prepared to do their part to stop Covid-19 spreading is judgmental, or if criticising someone for not caring about passing on a potentially fatal virus to other people including the most vulnerable people in society is being judgmental then I’m happy to be considered to be judgmental, and I will continue to criticise anyone who thinks it’s OK to bury their head in the sand and pretend there’s not a problem, or simply not care about the problem other people face, while decent people, including NHS staff and the most vulnerable people in our society, are put at risk by the attitude the nodding donkey has.
Well said, saved me the bother. 
tachograph:
dieseldave:
robroy:
… Too many judgemental people on here who are just too quick to jump without knowing the facts.This is very true^^^
I’ve no idea whether or not that those comments are aimed at me but my remark about the nodding donkey was in part based on other posts he’s made such as the one bellow where he makes it clear he has no qualms about spreading the Covid-19 virus.
If criticising someone for not being prepared to do their part to stop Covid-19 spreading is judgmental, or if criticising someone for not caring about passing on a potentially fatal virus to other people including the most vulnerable people in society is being judgmental then I’m happy to be considered to be judgmental, and I will continue to criticise anyone who thinks it’s OK to bury their head in the sand and pretend there’s not a problem, or simply not care about the problem other people face, while decent people, including NHS staff and the most vulnerable people in our society, are put at risk by the attitude the nodding donkey has.
Personally I have a fairly philosophical attitude to life, none of us are going to get out alive so there’s no point worrying about it, however to have such a couldn’t give a [zb] attitude towards the lives of other people including the most vulnerable people in society and the NHS staff who will be called on to help him if he’s infected is, in my opinion at-least, beneath contempt.
the nodding donkey:
Being of a "here today, gone tomorrow " kind of mindset, my attitude to these kind of issues is rather blunt. If it kills me, it does. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t. I just get on with life. As for not spreading it around, why not? My other half has been isolating g for over a week, and told me that she’s told by the hospital that she has the virus. I’ve been off work, and avoiding contact (which comes natural anyway…) for a week now. But I still go shopping most days, needs must. We are an invasive species, and very close to destroying the Earths ecosystem. One day, it’s going to be the big one. Might be this one. Might not. You’re not going to be around in 60 years to care anyway.
Well there lies the difference, I was commenting solely on this o/p on this thread.
Can’t comment on the others as I haven’t seen them. 
the nodding donkey:
The lockdown will increase the cases (and quite possibly the severety) of domestic violence and abuse. Many cases will go unnoticed, and likely lead to deaths.Suicide rates will go up.
You may not like what I have to say, but you cant say I’m wrong.
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I’m broadly of the opinion that where possible people should stay at home.
One thing where is ND is right are the 2 points above. Today I’ve been to ‘visit’, with the 2 meters separation, someone that tried to kill themselves last year and is struggling and worried about how they are tolerating this lockdown. Living on a 35’ narrowboat is not helping.
Secondly a friends son attends police stations (not solicitor) when someone is charged. Currently the bulk are being charged with DV.
the nodding donkey:
You may not like my forthright attitude, but I say it as I see it. There is a bigger picture than keeping “the most vulnerable” safe.The lockdown will increase the cases (and quite possibly the severety) of domestic violence and abuse. Many cases will go unnoticed, and likely lead to deaths.
Suicide rates will go up.
You may not like what I have to say, but you cant say I’m wrong.
Keeping everybody in lockdown only works if every single person is in lockdown. Period. Than you need to decide how long to lockdown for. How long can the virus survive before the carrier is guaranteed to be clear? 2 weeks? 3 weeks? A month?
Then double that, to make sure the whole population is clear.
You need to lockdown the whole world, to ensure the virus cant survive …An economic recession will hit the poor and the elderly hardest, causing more deaths down the line than the virus will.
I don’t doubt that Domestic violence and suicide will increase with the lockdown and as unfortunate as that is it’s not the big picture.
The purpose of a lockdown is to control the rate at which Covid-19 spreads so that those who are hospitalised because of it can get the best available treatment rather than being left to die when the NHS is overwhelmed.
No-ones suggesting that Covic-19 will or can be eradicated by a lockdown, the choice in the UK is between an estimated 250,000+ deaths when the NHS is overwhelmed or an estimated 20,000 deaths with Covid-19 being controlled by a lockdown.
The only countries in the world where the Covid-19 death rate is stabilising or falling is where there has been serious lockdown to prevent, or at-least slow down the infection rate.
robroy:
How do you know he ain’t one of the famous essential ‘key workers’ doing food deliveries
Knowing who the OP is, my guess is -
The-Snowman:
robroy:
How do you know he ain’t one of the famous essential ‘key workers’ doing food deliveriesKnowing who the OP is, my guess is -
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You’d be wrong.
the nodding donkey:
Keeping everybody in lockdown only works if every single person is in lockdown. Period. Than you need to decide how long to lockdown for. How long can the virus survive before the carrier is guaranteed to be clear? 2 weeks? 3 weeks? A month?
Then double that, to make sure the whole population is clear.
You need to lockdown the whole world, to ensure the virus cant survive …
You appear to completely misunderstand the aim of the “lockdown”. No-one in Government circles expects (or even hopes) to somehow eradicate the virus, or even to stop it completely by these measures. It is all about moderating the rate at which it spreads so that our health services have at least a chance of dealing with the patients that need treatment. If we don’t follow the guidance, the NHS will become overwhelmed in a matter of weeks, and then not only will maybe hundreds of thousands die from the virus (many of whom could have survived with treatment) but similar numbers will also die as a result of any number of other “simple” conditions such as appendicitis simply because they could not get hospital treatment when they needed it.
the nodding donkey:
I hesitate to make Rob’s ego bigger than it already is, but he’s hit the nail on the head. [zb] me, even dozy managed a sensible post…Yes, I’m driving a truck. No, not every load is absolutely essential, but most are food and supply related. All you haters, who are enjoying a drink during the next few weeks, you’re welcome. To turn the tables round, I’m the hero, for risking my life, to ensure that you can all have an ‘essential’ beverage…
We (that is everybody working atm, not just me…) are also keeping the machine going. Somebody needs to pay taxes. Somebody needs to get the raw ingredients to the factories, somebody needs to turn it into something edible, somebody needs to take it to the shop, for you to panic buy it. Again, you’re welcome…I do have a life attitude, that we die when it’s our time. I do not subscribe to the “keeping people alive as long as possible, at all cost” (often simply prolonging their suffering, for your own selfish reasons.) I’m not going into a long rant here, but unless we change our attitude to working, retiring, and dying, the system is going to collapse.
A lockdown to halt the spread would only work if we have a “total” lockdown. Everybody, but absolutely everybody stay in for at least 6weeks. No food supplies, no medical help, nothing at all. The infected die or become immune.
It would only work if the virus also obliges to die, otherwise, after 6 weeks, we start all over again…Hate me all you like, I feed of that.
Love the way that you can compliment people and insult them simultaneously ND mate 
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, Btw…it isn’t that I have a big ego, it’s just that I’m incredibly cool and always right.! 
Seriously though I deffo see where you are coming from on this, and just like in any other walk of life including this forum, if somebody says something off the wall, controversial, or not fitting with the herd of sheep (yeh I know it’s ‘flock’ but herd sounds better 
) you get the professionally offended, the offended by proxy, and the ‘‘I reckon I should be offended, so I’m gonna say I am to keep appearances up’’.
I’m also working as I said,.I ain’t a hero like you , it’s purely for selfish reasons as I pointed out previously, but I AM being very careful.
I have a mate whose wife is in the high risk category, she is awaiting treatment for her condition, so he really should be off isolating with her, they both made the decision that they can not afford to do this, (not our place to judge their decision, but respect it before anyone comments) he is doing essential type haulage, but being extremely careful not to pick anything up.
Can I stick my neb in with the mods for a minute…
Is it not about time this guy was taken off pre.mod, when his posts are pre modded then inserted into the thread afterwards it sometimes fails to make sense and logic.
More reason for pre mod lift…he does make some good points on this forum which spark off some good discussions…(despite his ego )
robroy:
Can I stick my neb in with the mods for a minute…
Is it not about time this guy was taken off pre.mod, when his posts are pre modded then inserted into the thread afterwards it sometimes fails to make sense and logic.More reason for pre mod lift…he does make some good points on this forum which spark off some good discussions…(despite his ego
Personally I couldn’t care less whether he remains on pre-mod or not, but I fail to see how suggesting that it’s OK to spread viruses is reason to let anyone off pre-mod 
When did being completely irresponsible become a good thing
tachograph:
robroy:
Can I stick my neb in with the mods for a minute…
Is it not about time this guy was taken off pre.mod, when his posts are pre modded then inserted into the thread afterwards it sometimes fails to make sense and logic.More reason for pre mod lift…he does make some good points on this forum which spark off some good discussions…(despite his ego
Personally I couldn’t care less whether he remains on pre-mod or not, but I fail to see how suggesting that it’s OK to spread viruses is reason to let anyone off pre-mod
When did being completely irresponsible become a good thing
I ain’t saying I agree with his opinions on the virus, but everybody is entitled to an opinion, that is what a forum is about is it not?
It’s only a few weeks ago that it was being debated as a possibility to try and get it, …‘‘herd immunity’’ was it?
The same concept that kids have ‘chickenpox parties’ ok fair enough it was quickly decided not to, but if someone thinks this is wrong and disagrees… like I said he’s entitled to an opinion.
Now if the same guy with that opinion deliberately goes out to try and conciously infect people, then that is an entirely different ball game, but as far as I see it, the o/p was not advocating such, but just stating his pov.
So wtf exactly is the point of getting all hot and bothered about it.■■
robroy:
So wtf exactly is the point of getting all hot and bothered about it.■■
But apart from you I don’t see anyone getting hot and bothered about it
tachograph:
robroy:
So wtf exactly is the point of getting all hot and bothered about it.■■But apart from you I don’t see anyone getting hot and bothered about it
Aye ok mate whatever, nice put down btw.
Have a read back at some of the replies,…especially the one where somebody called him a ‘prick’.
Oh hang on a minute…that was you.
But nobody s getting hot and bothered ecxcept me eh?:roll:
My opinion is pretty much the same as the OP`s, however I will add that it is nice to see the human race realising that it is not the king of the heap, top of the pile, we are being lightly damaged by a virus that we cannot even see and I find that hugely interesting, I just hope that when we see how the planet can heal when we are curtailed in our activities, then perhaps we shall learn from that and act accordingly.
I will also add that other virus will escape from hosts that we should never have come into contact with and it will be worse than it is now, if Ebola is not contained adequately that will be a proper game changer.
I am enjoying all that is happening, it is nice to see change, as life was far too easy for too many and we need a challenge to make us feel alive again.
I don’t want anyone to die , but if Bristol city went bust through conivirusv(?though it’s more
Likely rovers ) I’d not loose any sleep over it.
robroy:
tachograph:
robroy:
So wtf exactly is the point of getting all hot and bothered about it.■■But apart from you I don’t see anyone getting hot and bothered about it
Aye ok mate whatever, nice put down btw.
Have a read back at some of the replies,…especially the one where somebody called him a ‘prick’.
Oh hang on a minute…that was you.
But nobody s getting hot and bothered ecxcept me eh?:roll:
Mental health women on telecast saying some folks would very
Quickly loose the plot being isolated at home , seems those not
Isolated are loosing the plot just as quick knowing there out doing 70 hrs a week , sleeping
In a tin box for a few quid more than those furloughed at home !!!
robroy:
Have a read back at some of the replies,…especially the one where somebody called him a ‘prick’.
Oh hang on a minute…that was you.
But nobody s getting hot and bothered ecxcept me eh?
<I’ve fixed the smiley for you … because I’m like that>
Actually what I said was “If you don’t care about dying that’s your choice, if you don’t care about passing on a virus that may kill others you’re a total prick”.
I was expressing my opinion about people who don’t care about passing on Covid-19, who fits into that category is not of my making.
I’m certainly not and never was getting hot and bothered about it, or anything else for that matter, but if it suits you to think that carry on bud
Anyway I’m off out to the green house now where I may well become hot … but not bothered
tachograph:
robroy:
Have a read back at some of the replies,…especially the one where somebody called him a ‘prick’.
Oh hang on a minute…that was you.
But nobody s getting hot and bothered ecxcept me eh?<I’ve fixed the smiley for you … because I’m like that>
Actually what I said was “If you don’t care about dying that’s your choice, if you don’t care about passing on a virus that may kill others you’re a total prick”.
I was expressing my opinion about people who don’t care about passing on Covid-19, who fits into that category is not of my making.
I’m certainly not and never was getting hot and bothered about it, or anything else for that matter, but if it suits you to think that carry on bud
Anyway I’m off out to the green house now where I may well become hot … but not bothered
Ok send me some tomatoes.
the nodding donkey:
The-Snowman:
robroy:
How do you know he ain’t one of the famous essential ‘key workers’ doing food deliveriesKnowing who the OP is, my guess is -
0You’d be wrong.
■■■■ it
Is there a chance for double jeopardy to double my points