UKtramp:
Fatboy slimslow:
you know when you was in the army, and went to two war zones! 
I take it none of your friends have killed themselves since being in civvy street? 
it can happen to anybody, anytime and anyplace. Prime example; from falklands 1982 lots of Northern Ireland, first gulf and the former Yugoslavia they were lads in the regiment, some of whom were very good friends of mine who topped themselves. It happens, deal with it.
I find this comment exceptionally creepy and extremely disrespectful, I will take this you most certainly have not been in any forces other than āyour friendsā who topped themselves. All of them was it?
Fat boy was the RSM of the Parachute Regiment. To reach the heights of WO1 in such a brutal environment requires a certain mindset and a certain character. Rightly or wrongly your experiences shape you.
I know plenty of paras, marines and personnel from other regiments none are as disrespectful to give out that type of heartless statement. I am shocked for him to even say what he has said but also sure he is obviously suffering some sort of disorder. My two sons who have both served in the forces too who have completed nightmare tours and whom we are extremely proud of have had to deal with some ordeals I am not going into on here. Theirs nor my own experiences have made any of us heartless or disrespectful. Yes it happens people do kill themselves some also die of natural causes, but to suggest to someone deal with it, is terrible. What does he think people are doing, Possibly makes him feel very butch and brave.
Mental health still has so much stigma attached to it. Would there be such a lack of empathy shown towards people with obviously apparent health issues? Somehow I doubt it.
UKtramp:
Anyone who is at such a low ebb as to contemplate killing themselves, someone who is so miserable and in such deep despair is probably not in the frame of mind as to reason of whether or not will it inconvenience anyone else. The poor chap is maybe calling for help, who knows. My point is I couldnāt care less if it holds my day up for more than an hour or so. If he gets the help he or she needs then my being held up is insignificant. Taking ones own life is a selfish act to begin with. Nobody wants to witness such an act and of course it can deeply scar some people. Obviously not many on here would be upset and if it held them up well that is so dam inconvenient. The man I witnessed attempting to take his life was in a suit, he looked well dressed and his car was parked at the side of the bridge which was a new range rover that looked like it was abandoned. I donāt think he was trying to inconvenience too many people at 4.30 am. I felt so sorry for this poor soul. I am not in the least surprised to hear comments of if he wants to kill himself then do it out of my way. I see nothing manly or particularly clever hearing such comments. It shows a lack of compassion and certain immaturity.
+1
I unfortunately know about this sort of thing a bit too closely, you are absolutely right, the poor sod at their wits end are in no position to think through the niceties of not inconveniencing others, theyāve completely gone past caring about the loved ones whoās lives are never going to be the same, let alone those whoās job it is to pick up the pieces, seen a big hulk of a copper with tears in his eyes at an official identification it was my duty to attend, the same thoroughly decent copper who discovered the body.
The attitudes displayed here when items like this come up are saddening, what that poor sod was going through to be trying to top themselves at 4 in the morning could be any one of us, we donāt know whatās driven him to be there, hope he gets some help and sorts his life out.
There but for the grace of God go any of us.
emmerson2:
UKtramp:
IavAgo:
So if they wanna do āitā then go ahead and do āitā without involving others or get the help they want.
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Sad little man, what a terrible attitude to adopt, very self centered and your life must be so much more important than his.
Totally agree, Tramp. If life is that bad, then get out of it, but do it out of my way!
And yes, Iām quite proud to be a cynical bstrd!
+1
if they were going to do it,then it would be a done deed before anyone else got involvedā¦a cpl of years ago some wifey flung her 2 or 3 kids off of it then dived off after themā¦job doneā¦no point in waiting for someone to make a drama out of it.if your heads messed and your for topping yourself,then do it without involving anyone else except the cleanup crew.
the erskine bridge near glasgow is another favourite spot.depending on what side of the river clyde you float into depends on what police force has to deal with itā¦depending on who the plod chopper pilot favours at the time depends on what side they hover over the stiff to blow it over to one side or the otherā¦ 
UKtramp:
Fatboy slimslow:
you know when you was in the army, and went to two war zones! I take it none of your friends have killed themselves since being in civvy street? it can happen to anybody, anytime and anyplace. Prime example; from falklands 1982 lots of Northern Ireland, first gulf and the former Yugoslavia they were lads in the regiment, some of whom were very good friends of mine who topped themselves. It happens, deal with it.
I find this comment exceptionally creepy and extremely disrespectful, I will take this you most certainly have not been in any forces other than āyour friendsā who topped themselves. All of them was it?
ex 2 para RSM AND regiment ā ā ā ā . Next 
I wish posters would not be so lazy as to use monosyllabic thread titles. I expected to read something pertinent pertaining to the structure of the Humber Bridge, or a warning regarding a potential closing or delay. Not a boring back and for about suicide and the level of selfishness of those attempting such.
Agree ND, I was expecting a crap thread about how much it cost
Captain Caveman 76:
Mental health still has so much stigma attached to it. Would there be such a lack of empathy shown towards people with obviously apparent health issues? Somehow I doubt it.
My grandson is Autistic. If he was at one end of the spectrum, dribbling, shaking, incoherent, wearing the headcap, and with the ear defenders to cut out the noise of everyday life, everyone would feel for him and have the utmost respect for his mother - what a sterling job sheās doing. But heās not, heās High-Functioning Autistic with definite aspects of Aspergerās, and because of that you wouldnāt have a clue that he had any condition at all. (My daughter can see the conditions in children but sheās been battling for recognition for her sonās condition for three years now.) He is seen as the naughty boy who will not do as heās told and my daughter as the useless mother who shouldnāt be allowed to have kids. Sheās now immune to people looking down their nose at her.
The thing is, when heās not being naughty and disobedient, violent and cruel, he is funny and cheeky - and very intelligent! At six years old he can do his times table from one to ten, tell the difference between colours, (not just between red and blue but turquoise and aquamarine, or maroon and burgundy), and your average Ikea flat pack is a piece of ā ā ā ā .
When mental illness is obvious the empathy isnāt there - when itās not obvious itās a nightmare.
dieseldog999:
if they were going to do it,then it would be a done deed before anyone else got involved
Agreed. When you commit suicide you are at the end of the tether with nowhere else to go; when you stand on the bridge over the motorway/ take not quite enough pills etc, you are āattention seekingā - because no-one is listening to you, never mind actually understanding your problems.
Juddian:
UKtramp:
Anyone who is at such a low ebb as to contemplate killing themselves, someone who is so miserable and in such deep despair is probably not in the frame of mind as to reason of whether or not will it inconvenience anyone else. The poor chap is maybe calling for help, who knows. My point is I couldnāt care less if it holds my day up for more than an hour or so. If he gets the help he or she needs then my being held up is insignificant. Taking ones own life is a selfish act to begin with. Nobody wants to witness such an act and of course it can deeply scar some people. Obviously not many on here would be upset and if it held them up well that is so dam inconvenient. The man I witnessed attempting to take his life was in a suit, he looked well dressed and his car was parked at the side of the bridge which was a new range rover that looked like it was abandoned. I donāt think he was trying to inconvenience too many people at 4.30 am. I felt so sorry for this poor soul. I am not in the least surprised to hear comments of if he wants to kill himself then do it out of my way. I see nothing manly or particularly clever hearing such comments. It shows a lack of compassion and certain immaturity.
+1
I unfortunately know about this sort of thing a bit too closely, you are absolutely right, the poor sod at their wits end are in no position to think through the niceties of not inconveniencing others, theyāve completely gone past caring about the loved ones whoās lives are never going to be the same, let alone those whoās job it is to pick up the pieces, seen a big hulk of a copper with tears in his eyes at an official identification it was my duty to attend, the same thoroughly decent copper who discovered the body.
The attitudes displayed here when items like this come up are saddening, what that poor sod was going through to be trying to top themselves at 4 in the morning could be any one of us, we donāt know whatās driven him to be there, hope he gets some help and sorts his life out.
There but for the grace of God go any of us.
Nice post. A refreshing change from the odd balls.
Not wanting to get an argument flashed up from this post, it was borne from a genuine concern of a harrowing scene that I witnessed and was hoping someone else may have followed me over the bridge or heard some news of the outcome. I would certainly say and can deduce from some of the replies that there is more attention seeking from some of the posters on here than the poor soul that was on the edge of the bridge. I only hope that one day it is none of you hanging on the edge of somewhere with your life in the balance and you experience the same concern from others that you have shown. Low intelligence, yes, attention seeking, most definitely. I am both saddened and yet no surprise found.
id mabay think driving past a jumper from a bridge on the motorway and seeing them splatterd bigtime might be harrowing,epecially for the poor driver that would have done the splatteringā¦driving past 2 dudes holding onto another one just might not be ringing my harrowing bell.if it was that bad,why ddnt you stop and give them a hand if it was a emergency scenario.
or dig this out of your cd collection and crank up the volumeā¦
id mabay think driving past a jumper from a bridge on the motorway and seeing them splatterd bigtime might be harrowing,epecially for the poor driver that would have done the splatteringā¦driving past 2 dudes holding onto another one just might not be ringing my harrowing bell.if it was that bad,why didnt you stop and give them a hand if it was a emergency scenario.
or dig this out of your cd collection and crank up the volumeā¦
youtube.com/watch?v=uyTVyCp7xrw
everybodys different as to what happens to complete strangers.some careā¦some dont.
if they closed the bridge every time some rajpot decided to possibly jump,it would prob be closed more than it would be openā¦id think there would me more concerns over the delays than the jumper.
might be dfferent if it was one of your own close family,other than that,who cares at the end of the day.
I didnāt stop because there was two police men and a maintenance guy already there talking to him, imagine if I had stopped and walked towards him and that made him jump. I felt for the guy, thatās all, its not something you would understand. In one sense I am pleased that there are drivers like you around because as long as there are I am assured of permanent employment. Soldier on Mr minimum wage.
UKtramp:
I didnāt stop because there was two police men and a maintenance guy already there talking to him, imagine if I had stopped and walked towards him and that made him jump. I felt for the guy, thatās all, its not something you would understand. In one sense I am pleased that there are drivers like you around because as long as there are I am assured of permanent employment. Soldier on Mr minimum wage.
minimum wage??..if i was as clairvoyant as you then id be looking for an x factor auditionā¦how on earth would you be able to know,guess or care about what someone else posting on here with a different opinion to you would earn? i think i do nicely for what i do,otherwise i wouldnt be doing itā¦
dieseldog999:
minimum wage??..if i was as clairvoyant as you then id be looking for an x factor auditionā¦how on earth would you be able to know,guess or care about what someone else posting on here with a different opinion to you would earn? i think i do nicely for what i do,otherwise i wouldnt be doing itā¦
Just a stab in the dark. You come across as a bit slow thatās all. You may be extremely successful for all I know. I just wouldnāt bet on it.
Many thanks, of course you are correct.