Thank you for this response. I understood about it when I saw import/export in UK. But I really do not know how much they pay per mile and I wonder how can I understand this, obviously you don’t want to share with me this information
It doesn’t matter what the rate per mile is, the important figure is the one that is left after all operating costs are taken out.
There isn’t an answer to the question you ask as you want an average and any individual will only have their own figures. To reach an average you will have to calculate the numbers from a group of hauliers.
Even then the numbers will be meaningless as every operation is different. The cost of equipment will vary greatly due to different interest rates and depreciation cycles giving different tax breaks. Fuel costs will vary too, different cards offer different discounts, tank capacity can affect this too. Insurance is another minefield, depending on claims, number of vehicles, location of yard, destinations etc. Wages will also differ due to regional differences. Tyre/maintenance costs vary from operation to operation, some have in house facilities, some don’t, again location plays a big part in these costs.
You see where I’m going with this? We’re at the tip of the iceberg here and already the only answer is that there is no answer…
Just one observation to add to what has already been said. You say that you are planning to run on a UK licence and use maintenance from another country, I am afraid that this won’t be happening. In order to get and then keep a UK O licence you must show that you have suitable maintenance facilities available to you here, and then that you are using them, service records, invoices and the like.
acd 1202,
I wrote in begging if I also do transport company in my country, you did not read;-).
Newmercman,
thank you, I mean this cost but I am still looking for rate per mile to know is there sense to do it;-)
vesselina79:
You told me things which everybody knows. Sorry about it.
All the same thank you.
P. S . I wrote in beginning =Average, you know what does it mean average (of course I do not wanted to show me your
accountancy)= this means- if you have 10 000 km per month, - fuel for truck unit 30|100-1.60paunds= 4 800 pounds per 10 000 km, drivers salary… cargo… e tc…that what I mean. But does not matter.
If I know everything like you-of course I will not be here and ask " stupid" question. I believe that when you have started the business you were brilliantly prepared.
“”“Once cabotage restrictions end, there will be no such thing as a British haulage industry any more, domestic haulage will go the same way as international haulage, Stanislav and Piotr will do it for half the cost. “””(somebody )
I am lucky , in the same time I can have a subsidiary company in my country and to use from there cheaper maintenance, fuel , drivers…and to have UK license;-))
What do you think about it?
You said that you are lucky because you can start a subsidiary in your own country to take advantage of cheaper costs but still have a UK licence. My reading of your post is perfectly clear, maybe it’s a language thing.
The people you need to be asking rates of are your potential customers. Pickup the phone and ask them, even though you don’t yet have an operators licence they will discuss what they can offer you if they believe you to be serious.
vesselina79:
Thank you for this response. I understood about it when I saw import/export in UK. But I really do not know how much they pay per mile and I wonder how can I understand this, obviously you don’t want to share with me this information
you’ll probably get £2.00 per mile
Why are you even wasting your time engaging this muppet? Just tell him to ■■■■ off!
and also don’t forget the cost of getting an O licence and also having to have a few thousand £ in the bank and that’s before you even buy a lorry
Thank you , Driver=- Once -more, and Left hand down,
I have CPC license, therefore I know what kind of documents I need, including my financial situation. It is good for me I do not need load from bank;-)))) And also I am not him- I am she;-))). And if you can speak more than one language- you can find what Piotr does )), to be more competitive.
I think you’d be better setting up in your own country rather than the uk…
For example in the 3.5 tonnes market a uk operator has to charge as a subcontractor between £1 -£120 to make it worth while this tight for an owner driver let alone a company employing a driver. Compare this to an polish or chech operator charging 45 pence per loaded mile scale this up to an 40 tonner and its no wonder the uk haulier cant compete
[quote=“vesselina79”. And if you can speak more than one language- you can find what Piotr does )), to be more competitive.[/quote]
Thats simply, Piotr pays all the Jatzeks, Adams and Meriks driving around europe in there 3,5 tonners 20groschy = 5 euro Cent ca 4.5pence per Kilometer and nowt else, which when you take waiting time into account means about two Pound fifty per hour, thats how Piotr is being more competive
We gladly sell a 25 tonne load from Hamburg to Porta Westfalica (240km) with between 3-5hours loading time and 3-5 hours tipping time for 250€ all inclusive to Piotr, its the poor Drivers i feel sorry for.
alixx776,
I can tell you what they pay in my country, it is not enough if you fallow the low. Do you know, for example, why they foreign company charge 0.45 per load? That what I mean to learn another language;-)) to read what happens to the rest of the world, how they survive.
There are English company which employ drivers from East Europe in UK and guess how much they pay them? They are one of the problem, because if you employ English driver you have to pay more then 12 pound per hour.
Last year I needed a 3.5 tonners to move something, distance was less then 5 miles, and It cost 150 pounds. I friend of mine did it for me for 50 pounds. Lets count how mush is the gross profit;-))
it went bell up when the wall came down imho
You got quoted 150 quid for the job not because it was only five miles, but because the company knew that it was going to tie up the vehicle for enough of the day to make finding another suitable job for the rest of the day difficult.
So why don’t you forget about vehicles, find your own work and get your friend Bogdan to cram at least 40 tonnes onto his trailer, forget about any maintenance, run the rig non-stop on bald tyres, red diesel, and a magnet and make yourself and him a right little killing. By the way there’s good money to be had people-trafficing ex Calais.
If you don’t have enough job during the day, this is your problem. When you go to the shop , probably you do not care about how many people will buy potatoes from Scotland, you care about the price. There is optimal circulation in iconomy, this means, it will be cheaper for you to bake 10 000 breads, then one. You can read it about it. Lets talk about maintenance . How much is per hour, because i found one -30 pounds per hour. How many times per month you use his service?
The truth is english guys would like 100% gross profit;-))) then , because Bogdan, knows 3 languages he can check in this miracle Internet how can he uses blessing from different country in Europe.
But to be happy you can think that EU is guilty that you (not exactly ) you do not have job;-))))
OP may i suggest that if you do not know how often vehicles need servicing or what your costs are, or what you expect to get paid then either yes you are a tro;; or wind up mechant or you shouldn’t be in the business anyway and afre nothing but a dreamer!
£30 per hour for a mechanic sounds about right and a service every x amount of weeks/months will probably cost you a few hundred £ plus the 6 weekly inspections
I do not know why but I think that the service depends of mode vehicle, or it has to go (vehicle ) every week to a doctor(service)? I have contract for every 6 weeks.
the old timer,
Could you tell me as a professional how often the vehicle goes to the service , if you would like to be helpful to tell me this basic truth, not just to informe me how many things you know;-)))))
wouldnt you know all this already in your business plan
Maintenance for hgvs is laid out in your olicence application. Ie six weekly inspections this represents a fixed cost and applies any vehicle over 3.5tonnes. As said this is something you should already know as you are “close” to setting up oh hope your bank account is well stocked up too to the tune of at least 30k which you’ll need just for running costs