cav551:
I’m hardly surprised that Jack stopped buying Seddon Atkinsons after sampling one of these 301s. The C reg ■■■■■■■ L10s were abysmal. At the time I was working for the local Seddon Atkinson dealer and we were naturally trying to flog these things. PDI would reveal coolant leaks from a water jacket behind the turbocharger. Injectors were set up wrongly Once they were in service the oil leaks started, which quite frequently meant stripping down the timing case. After about six months the whole thing had to come down because the piston cooling oil jets were incorrectly directed and the engines drank gallons of oil. Once that was sorted, the camshaft lobe wear problem raised its head. The chassis build quality wasn’t much better either. Loads of rectification work on PDI. All of this when ■■■■■■■ were really bulling up the L10 and making out that it was so much better than a Gardner. Granted the 14 litre E320 was a cracking engine.
Whether it was this one, or another one of Henley’s 301s I don’t know, but one came back several times for lack of power. Eventually at six o’clock one night it broke down at Wrotham with one of the Sed Atk favourites. A speck of hot rust from the exhaust manifold had pinged off, missed the heat shield and melted one of the air pipes that was really difficult to get at. It was my bad luck to have to attend this breakdown and removing inlet trunking to gain access revealed lo and behold - a seized turbo. A couple of days later, I had the pleasure of putting it right at Spelmonden and listening to the jeers.
hello cav 551 do you remember the old atkinson / seddon atkinson salesman from east peckham called mike jefferies
JKO 725V (FLEET NO 46) this erf b series was new to paddock wood driver terry barden and was reguarly used on continental runs driven by terry.
the company ran a total of 19 erf b series from p reg through to x reg the first 6 being day cab tractor units and the rest being the full sleeper cab models all of these were fitted with the 240 gardner engine.
jko 725v shown here in the hops marketing board in paddock wood around about 1986
G67 PKP (FLEET NO 67) erf e14 6 x 2 tractor unit fitted with 320 ■■■■■■■■
this was new to rochdale depot and allocated to ken moran.
typical work southbound would be a load of proctor & gamble out of trafford park or a load of foxs biscuits out of batley down to the south east,the return northbound would be fresh produce from kent going back up yorkshire/lancashire.
the company operated a total of 32 erf e series,2 x 4 wheelers 1 x 6 wheeler and the rest all 6 x 2 tractor units.
20 of these had the rest cabs whilst the remainder had the full sleeper cab
F511 VEG this was a second hand purchase from someone jack knew on the isle of wight who got into some sort of financial difficulty.
it was en erf e6 with an extra axle fitted to it,one of those ones that never looked right.
it was allocated to andy jenner at paddock wood then when he got his new l reg erf ec8 it was then allocated to kevin murdoch.
f511 veg was never allocated a fleet number.
F511VEG has a Boalloy Insuliner body. The chassis was odd in that the added axle was ahead of the drive axle. It lasted into Coolchain days, when it had fleet number 51.
F110 GKL (fleet no 11) this was one of the first f90 on the fleet it came home with f530 gkl (fleet no 53)
it was allocated to brian penfold who mainly done night deliveries to the fruit & veg wholesale markets
Dont worry Ringrose, the old Henley box is alive and well, its just been re-located to the other end of the yard. We’re having major changes here over the next couple of months. The tractor units are being moved to the rear of the site & the car park is going to be at the front near the road. Also the whole site is going to be fenced off so people cant just walk in over the wall as is currently the case.
Hello All,
I’ve been following this topic with great interest!
Some of you may know that i now own one AEC Matador, as used by my Grandad and other fitters, David Colvin for Henley Transport! Although the engine is cu-put at the moment i hope to have it back and up and running soon!
I was wondering if anyone had any photos of the said Matador, i am really after some photos of the Matador out on a breakdown job,with the fitters with it or with my grandad in the workshop etc? Someone must have one at least!
Some of you may recognise this lorry or even have driven it at some point! I found it in a local scrapyard a couple of days ago, it was just the fibre glass cab, no chassis or number plate etc at all. There was a number of the corner of the cab that looked like 48 or 43.
ransomesmg6:
Hello All,
I’ve been following this topic with great interest!
Some of you may know that i now own one AEC Matador, as used by my Grandad and other fitters, David Colvin for Henley Transport! Although the engine is cu-put at the moment i hope to have it back and up and running soon!
I was wondering if anyone had any photos of the said Matador, i am really after some photos of the Matador out on a breakdown job,with the fitters with it or with my grandad in the workshop etc? Someone must have one at least!
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Some of you may recognise this lorry or even have driven it at some point! I found it in a local scrapyard a couple of days ago, it was just the fibre glass cab, no chassis or number plate etc at all. There was a number of the corner of the cab that looked like 48 or 43.
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Kind regards
Henry
good afternoon henry,
i hope you have better luck getting hold of a photo of the wrecker in action than i did of my dads old 6 wheeler atkinson whilst in the company colours (hkr 260d).
the erf e series in the scrapyard would most probably been one of these f40 ckr, f470 ekl,e45 tkj or e46 akm.
fleet no 43 was an man tractor unit c430 vdo and 48 was an erf e series g48 pkl but this had the full sleeper cab not the rest cab as shown in the photo.
good luck and enjoy the thread,chris lawrence
I think this might be E45TKJ. It was used as a shunter until 2003 at least. Just looking at the date of liability on the DVLA site, F40CKR was taxed until 28/10/11, and to my knowledge was white with Henleys, although the DVLA shows it as yellow. E46AKM is currently taxed until 1/6/12 and F470EKL was last taxed 30/4/98. Incidentally, a small photo of the Henley Matador appears in this months Vintage Roadscene as part of an article on Matadors. It was photographed at a rally some years ago. Be good to see it restored.
lawrence2765:
ransomesmg6:
Hello All,
I’ve been following this topic with great interest!
Some of you may know that i now own one AEC Matador, as used by my Grandad and other fitters, David Colvin for Henley Transport! Although the engine is cu-put at the moment i hope to have it back and up and running soon!
I was wondering if anyone had any photos of the said Matador, i am really after some photos of the Matador out on a breakdown job,with the fitters with it or with my grandad in the workshop etc? Someone must have one at least!
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3
Some of you may recognise this lorry or even have driven it at some point! I found it in a local scrapyard a couple of days ago, it was just the fibre glass cab, no chassis or number plate etc at all. There was a number of the corner of the cab that looked like 48 or 43.
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Kind regards
Henry
good afternoon henry,
i hope you have better luck getting hold of a photo of the wrecker in action than i did of my dads old 6 wheeler atkinson whilst in the company colours (hkr 260d).
the erf e series in the scrapyard would most probably been one of these f40 ckr, f470 ekl,e45 tkj or e46 akm.
fleet no 43 was an man tractor unit c430 vdo and 48 was an erf e series g48 pkl but this had the full sleeper cab not the rest cab as shown in the photo.
good luck and enjoy the thread,chris lawrence
When I first started on full time for a local agency on the mid 90s I expressed an interest in fridge work and did a good few shifts for WRM at paddock wood.
At the time most of the fleet was still in Henleys colours and i mostly drove both MAN and ERF units with the SAMT box.
One run I did regularly was to tip tesco southampton and then do a trailer change over on the docks at the tomato terminal and back u to paddock wood.
I got quite used to doing this and once they got to know me I was usually allocated a trampers motor which meant they were clean and tidy.
I rolled in one afternoon and upon enquiring which unit I was to take I was told they were short of motors and I’d have to take a shunter. No problem thinks I,after all they were tidy enough,the only difference being they were rest cabs. Upon climbing in I noticed they had manual box. Not wanting to mess up a handy little job I asked a driver how the box operated and hence forth my introduction to the eaton twin splitter. It all sounded simple enough and I still remember the driver saying that once I master it I won’t want to go back to those automatic pieces of ■■■■.
Well master it I couldn’t and upon passing clackett lane I was seriously considering dumping it and hitching home. With the possibility of a full time job in the offing I struggled through and although I was still playing tunes and coming to a halt on hills I made it back to the yard. I did admit to being defeated by the box to the office and in all fairness they took it in board and said they tried not to send the agency drivers out in them if possible.
I Still got work at paddock wood so it couldn’t have been a great problem and although I did do the odd day with the twin splitters I still hated them and never really got the hang of them.
A few years later I got work with a local tipper firm and upon starting I was horrified to find a twin splitter fitted to my new truck. I admit it took a couple of weeks to finally get the hang of the twin splitter but I now know where that driver at WRM was coming from and I would personally swap the ZF 16 speed in my 105 for an Eaton box any time.
Hi Lawrence, When I was restoring RKJ 160 M I found this loading sheet and note stuck underneath a sheet dated 3rd September 1981. Do they mean anything to you. Cheers , Leyland 600
Leyland600:
Hi Lawrence, When I was restoring RKJ 160 M I found this loading sheet and note stuck underneath a sheet dated 3rd September 1981. Do they mean anything to you. Cheers , Leyland 6000
hello leyland 600
well the completed loading note with 4 jobs on was written out by derek ransley.
it refers to p&g yard that would mean proctor & gamble goods from essex,the nc stood for norman collett ltd a company that dealt with english fruit the other 2 entries not too sure as just before my time,those were the days when you could get away with carrying soap powder with fruit on the same motor!
Hi Lawrence, I thought you would be able to decipher this piece of paper, thanks for the explanation anyway. The ERF is now appearing a Scottish truck rallys in Aberdeenshire and Angus as well as coast to coast Fraserburgh to Fort William. Cheers Leyland 600
PS Take a look at this link.
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