Only two of these were built, this one with the V8 580, the other one was fitted with a P-cab with lowered roof and had a 470 under the bonnet.
Despite what most people think, the unit pictured was “only” plated for 180t and didn’t had a torque converter, but the standard 12- speed gearbox. The main reason to built a 12x4 was to reduce the need for a jeep- or interdolly, but in practice it proved really difficult to get permits for it, as a lot of countries just didn’t acknowledge this setup. The 10x4 setup was more favoured.
The unit next to the Scania was another unique design, as it was the only Ginaf 10×4 fitted with a Superspacecab, only two of such chassis were built at Ginaf, the other one went to Zwagerman and had a standard Spacecab fitted.
This bloke, on an American forum, does the same thing every day, rusty up and shiny back as he calls it, but the photos emphasise what I wrote in the roping and sheeting forum earlier, namely front overhangs being the reason for the general lack of headboards over there.
He swears by these multiple bar tight straps, and I believe there is a particular law about it, but for me only chains would do and especially some rearward restraint at the front. What do others think?
I would agree with chains.
I hope the beams are butted firmly up together, although that isn’t apparent in the photo.
S’pose the front overhang is because the US set-up has the axles right on the back, and the pin right on the front of the semi-trailer.
I know that is the habit there, but can only see disadvantages to it, no gains at all?
It really boggles the mind, as they use a thousand straps but not one to stop forward motion. It’s not rocket science, now is it.
Back in the day, a lot of Spanish hauliers in the Irun area, loaded with steel beams, used to run like that as well, often with just one steel wire over the load.
I’ve been reading the “argy bargy” that you have with TN’s own in-house specialist regarding plant haulage, but for some reason, he’s never commented on here. That’s not an invitation mind!
Yes, the only saving grace I can think of is that those straps maybe be extra heavy weighted in manufacture, are bar tight and protected at the edges, and are between metal pins on the beams, so may be somewhat restricted in forward movement in that way.
Nevertheless, I would not be feeling comfortable with that lot pointing at my head.
Just had a read back of this man’s loads and regarding the legal position he said this:
@Spardo headboards and headache racks are no longer required. 2 tiedowns within the first 10 feet is the rule. I have 5 straps on the back so there’s 8 straps over 64’ long beams, more than enough…
I see and hear horror stories of loads shifting and it’s always in the back of my mind (no pun intended) so I “drive accordingly”
He was appreciative of my photo, rare in my earlier days with abormal loads, of waiting at the docks to unload a Morris gantry crane. Not sure if part of that was butted against the headboard but I would have thought so, it would have been more important to me than axle weight. The 2 chains you can see are in the process of being removed, you can see the slack underneath one of them, but there would have been a total of 4 on that length altogether. Straps were not long invented and I wouldn’t have used them anyway in preference to chains.
Don’t get me started here! The “expert, know it all” wit no knowledge or experience, fairly rubs me up the wrong way. I suppose it’s a bit unfair, having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
Yes indeed, not clear exactly how wide they were but I would have thought they could have been tight alongside completely on the timber, but no way is that safe. I am surprised that so many of our Western colleagues place so little store by forward restraint.
Seems to me easy enough to use a couple of straps with hooked ends to pull back on the leading edge of the beams?
It may well not be enough to stop the load under all circumstances but would do a lot of good, and no harm.
I used to attach a chain, appropriately in line with the first glut, pass it under the load, toward the front, then return it to the opposite side and dog it tight. It works particularly well on plate, which has a tendency to slide.
I found the worst product to secure was bundled SHS/RHS, especially if it had been cut, using soluble oil as a cooling medium.
One of the cutters from whom I had to collect such material, had a yard so small, I could only get the back half of the trailer in. I had the fab shop make me a moveable false head board, so the steel was always against the headboard.
