Bewick:
Retired Old ■■■■:
I have to admit that I have found nets a Godsend in my time, especially on bulk tippers.
Just taking the p*ss you understand!Do they still use nets on tippers ROF ? Oh! and don’t worry about p*ss taking,because “if you give it you should be able to take it”
Cheers Bewick.
Probably don’t, Dennis. They all seem to have these Easysheet things these days. No more climbing up onto loads, no more heaving on sheet ties in a gale, where’s all the fun gone?
Bewick:
Is this shot more to your liking ROF ? I don’t think this photo has appeared on the site but it is interesting for a couple of reasons.At the time it was taken in the later '80’s (IIRC) fleet no 11 was one of the three oldest trailers on the fleet,I bought it new in '72 via a York dealer,Robertsons, in Aberdeen at a time when new trailers were hard to come by.While we always classed T11 as 40 footer is was,in fact,only 39ft long and the headboard was only 1 foot high instead of the usual 2 ft high.I never did find out why it was built to this length unless it was something to do with C & U regs or maybe when coupled to a unit it was bulit so as to fit into a garage coupled up! There use to be an owner driver in Milnthorpe who when he converted from an 8 wheeler to an artic he had the tandem trailer built to 31ft 6" long so he could put the whole outfit in his garage.Useless info,I know,Cheers Bewick.Same trailer shot when brand new in early '73 standing on the trailer park adjacent to the A6 in Milnthorpe with its first load for London.
Early 1972 or 1973 Dennis,make your mind up!!..or could it be a different trailer perhaps? the leg braces are higher up on the 1st trailer?
David 
Slip of the “pen” David we defo got that T11 in early '73 and if you notice the front end of that car in the shot it was a new Hillman Hunter GT which I had got “L” reg,and the later shot is the same trailer and all I can say is it must have had a replacement set of landing legs fitted but I can’t recall for definite.Looking at those completely flat feet on the legs of the later shot well they are definitely not the same as the ones York fitted which were oblong and turned upwards at the back and front.Cheers Dennis.
Hellow Mr Bewick, ive just looked through the pictures on this site, a question iff I may, the sky high loads? presume the fork lift put the sheets up for the driver? how did the driver/shunter get up there, then when up and rolled the sheets out, how did he get down?
I did loads of general sheeting and ropeing, but never had high loads such as seen on here--------or was I lucky!! cheers and all the best to you.
Bewick:
Retired Old ■■■■:
That BRS photo brings back memories. Good to see someone was savvy enough to take pics.
And by the way, Bewick, nets don’t count. Let’s have no cheating in future!Yes “Mr. Adjudicator”,your quite right but I thought it may qualifiy as a “variation on a theme”
These big loads of waste we hauled back from the Bowater/Rexam plants up and down the UK were tied with wire which was a no no as far as our main sheets were concerned plus these loads were higher than our standard mains would cover,so I bought a number of these “made to measure” nets which did the job great,and you’d be suprised how much rain they turned although they were never standing for very long as they went straight back into the Paper Mill and were tipped quickly.Cheers Bewick.
The nets were good for waste paper merchants who sold cardboard to the paper mills ,as they obviously stopped the load blowing off and also let quite a bit of water in, and when the mills were paying by the ton the nets were the best option ,i know this becuse my dad worked for a paper merchant,sometimes though they knocked off a bit of weight when the load was too wet
trunker08:
Hellow Mr Bewick, ive just looked through the pictures on this site, a question iff I may, the sky high loads? presume the fork lift put the sheets up for the driver? how did the driver/shunter get up there, then when up and rolled the sheets out, how did he get down?
I did loads of general sheeting and ropeing, but never had high loads such as seen on here--------or was I lucky!! cheers and all the best to you.
I never was personally involved with these loads of waste but I guess the clamp truck driver would lift the driver up and down,I can’t recall any problems with this regular traffic we hauled back into East Lancs mill at Radcliffe,quite the opposite if I recall.It was a good paying job A to B to A 24 ton of Reels to Rexam and 24 ton of bales back although there wasn’t a back load every time as we had stand trailers at each of the Box plants and they were returned as and when they were fully loaded.Cheers Bewick.
Has any one go any photos of roped and sheeted fridges. No not a wind up, the first time I saw one I was gobsmacked. Bristol whole sale market, in the 80’s. Some of the west country guys used to fill the fridges full then put half height pallets on the roof which were then roped and sheeted. Most of them ran through the night for some strange reason. I’ve seen it at some north and west of Scotland ferry ports as well with the Shetland and Hebrides guys doing similar things.
Jeff…
hodgeturbo:
my mate took this pic on monday at eggers,hexham
It’s missing a row of ties on the main sheet eyelets “hodge”,tut tut ! Dennis.
Bewick:
hodgeturbo:
my mate took this pic on monday at eggers,hexhamIt’s missing a row of ties on the main sheet eyelets “hodge”,tut tut ! Dennis.
Well spotted Dennis, But it looks like the main sheets & the trailer aint Jakeys , That’s what it seems to me anyway, Regards Larry,
FH66 on the top of Shap in 1965 with timber from Newport Docks to Carlisle. A real cold sweat job it was too without chains.
nice to see you can still load flats at eggers it wont be long before somebody puts a stop to it…
An interesting '77 “arse end” shot of a couple of trailers standing in the depot,the K.Fell T52 was one of the 7 trailers we aquired in the takeover in mid '76.The T7 York LD 36 footer loaded with steel bridge rails ex Workington is one of the 7 trailers we aquired when we took over the Henry Cooke own account fleet in Jan '77.The Fell trailer would have been loaded out of the Libby food factory adjacent to the depot and would be destined for the Southeast.I’m not just sure where the steel was going maybe to an NCB mine or possibly for export out of Garston dock. 
Bewick:
An interesting '77 “arse end” shot of a couple of trailers standing in the depot,the K.Fell T52 was one of the 7 trailers we aquired in the takeover in mid '76.The T7 York LD 36 footer loaded with steel bridge rails ex Workington is one of the 7 trailers we aquired when we took over the Henry Cooke own account fleet in Jan '77.The Fell trailer would have been loaded out of the Libby food factory adjacent to the depot and would be destined for the Southeast.I’m not just sure where the steel was going maybe to an NCB mine or possibly for export out of Garston dock.
It,s interesting to see the load of steel fastened on with sylvester,s we threw most of our,s in the skip ,elf and safety you know.Like most things though if you,d been shown how to use them properly they were ok.Iread back in this thread ramone wanted to see some wool wagons roped and sheeted i,ll sort some out .When there was no wool we used to back load general haulage and putting awool sheet on say a load of palletised good or something cab high it was always arkward as you had a lot of sheet to loose and fold up under the chock rail. One of the problems with wool was the load settling because of soft bales and you had tokeep tightening the ropes and side ratchets as you did this the load got wider as it was pulled down no problem with presspacks though.like most things you needed to be tought from a young age.
Regards,Richard.
Bewick:
An interesting '77 “arse end” shot of a couple of trailers standing in the depot,the K.Fell T52 was one of the 7 trailers we aquired in the takeover in mid '76.The T7 York LD 36 footer loaded with steel bridge rails ex Workington is one of the 7 trailers we aquired when we took over the Henry Cooke own account fleet in Jan '77.The Fell trailer would have been loaded out of the Libby food factory adjacent to the depot and would be destined for the Southeast.I’m not just sure where the steel was going maybe to an NCB mine or possibly for export out of Garston dock.
hey bewick, nice wih the square backlights,you didn’t see them often. Lots of work was very nice with flat trailers.
Bye Eric,
scud:
Bewick:
An interesting '77 “arse end” shot of a couple of trailers standing in the depot,the K.Fell T52 was one of the 7 trailers we aquired in the takeover in mid '76.The T7 York LD 36 footer loaded with steel bridge rails ex Workington is one of the 7 trailers we aquired when we took over the Henry Cooke own account fleet in Jan '77.The Fell trailer would have been loaded out of the Libby food factory adjacent to the depot and would be destined for the Southeast.I’m not just sure where the steel was going maybe to an NCB mine or possibly for export out of Garston dock.It,s interesting to see the load of steel fastened on with sylvester,s we threw most of our,s in the skip ,elf and safety you know.Like most things though if you,d been shown how to use them properly they were ok.Iread back in this thread ramone wanted to see some wool wagons roped and sheeted i,ll sort some out .When there was no wool we used to back load general haulage and putting awool sheet on say a load of palletised good or something cab high it was always arkward as you had a lot of sheet to loose and fold up under the chock rail. One of the problems with wool was the load settling because of soft bales and you had tokeep tightening the ropes and side ratchets as you did this the load got wider as it was pulled down no problem with presspacks though.like most things you needed to be tought from a young age.
Regards,Richard.
You have to remember Richard that this was in the '70’s long before H&S ■■■■■■■■ came in ! We probably had upwards of 40 sets of “Chains and Dwangs” ( Scottish and ■■■■■■■■ name for them!).Although we did start using Span Sets later on they were no good for some of the loads we hauled particularly many loads of scrap rail off the main railway line.Chains were the only safe way to secure 24 ton of rail,but here is a shot of 3 trailers in the depot loaded with bridge beams and secured with Span sets.Cheers Dennis.
A depot shot of 4 trailers loaded with scrap rail,2 tri axles will have 24/25 ton on board and the 2 tandems will have,well should have,about 22ton apiece on them all chained but bad to make out on this shot 
But the rail wasn’t always broken at equal lengths so weights varied 
But we always got paid on the weighbridge tickets at the steel works we delivered to 
Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
scud:
Bewick:
An interesting '77 “arse end” shot of a couple of trailers standing in the depot,the K.Fell T52 was one of the 7 trailers we aquired in the takeover in mid '76.The T7 York LD 36 footer loaded with steel bridge rails ex Workington is one of the 7 trailers we aquired when we took over the Henry Cooke own account fleet in Jan '77.The Fell trailer would have been loaded out of the Libby food factory adjacent to the depot and would be destined for the Southeast.I’m not just sure where the steel was going maybe to an NCB mine or possibly for export out of Garston dock.It,s interesting to see the load of steel fastened on with sylvester,s we threw most of our,s in the skip ,elf and safety you know.Like most things though if you,d been shown how to use them properly they were ok.Iread back in this thread ramone wanted to see some wool wagons roped and sheeted i,ll sort some out .When there was no wool we used to back load general haulage and putting awool sheet on say a load of palletised good or something cab high it was always arkward as you had a lot of sheet to loose and fold up under the chock rail. One of the problems with wool was the load settling because of soft bales and you had tokeep tightening the ropes and side ratchets as you did this the load got wider as it was pulled down no problem with presspacks though.like most things you needed to be tought from a young age.
Regards,Richard.You have to remember Richard that this was in the '70’s long before H&S ■■■■■■■■ came in ! We probably had upwards of 40 sets of “Chains and Dwangs” ( Scottish and ■■■■■■■■ name for them!).Although we did start using Span Sets later on they were no good for some of the loads we hauled particularly many loads of scrap rail off the main railway line.Chains were the only safe way to secure 24 ton of rail,but here is a shot of 3 trailers in the depot loaded with bridge beams and secured with Span sets.Cheers Dennis.
Hiya Dennis,good to read about the Chains and Dwangs (ex Forth),later at Stillers all the trailers had 2-3 sets welded to them,you may remember seeing these in Reeds mills,in this photo you can just see them hanging under the trailer.Vic.
Howay Vic we didn’t have to go to those lengths of welding the chains to the trailers ! 
Stiller musn’t have trusted anybody eh! Anyhow,whose that in the shot,he should have had some numbers on the bottom of the photo shouldn’t he ! Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
Howay Vic we didn’t have to go to those lengths of welding the chains to the trailers !
Not sure about the trustworthy bit, but we did do a lot of steel and they were handy, and you could’nt ring in and say someone had nicked your chains. the lad in the photo he is one of the best you could find and came from not far short of ■■■■■■■■■■■■
