Giving drivers a bad name

AndrewG:
He may be a nob of a driver but…reporting it? Personally i’d just let it go, cant say im a fan of dropping other drivers in it tbh…

He ought to show his respect to other road users and not drive like a ■■■■ then. Reporting it may just prevent a nasty accident. :')

OMG just OMG and some of you are let loose in a truck.
Appalling posts showing how clueless some are.

Let’s get this correct now.

Tailgating is a serious offence and is potentially very dangerous but tailgating and flashing headlamps when the vehicle in front has done absolutely nothing wrong is only performed by drivers who should never hold a driving licence.

The decent drivers amongst us want these clowns off the road now. If there was a bigger police presence they would be prosecuted and rightly so.

Never mind all this I will not tell on a fellow driver.
Get their company name and report them before the inevitable happens.

Now I believe brake testing (named by tailgaters)
is a sin.
Hang on if these clowns did not do what they do there would be no brake lights.
Have you ever thought the braking might be caused by a driver panicking at the sight of a truck far too close behind? No thought not.

Catch 22 really, if you do nothing and a later on you hear the driver had been involved in an accident how would you feel. But that’s getting a tad hysterical, yet I’m sure it happens.

Report the driver and trust the police to handle it may be better for the conscience.

Or put it down to a moment of cockery and hope the twunt ditches it without hurting anyone else.

Dr Damon:
Now I believe brake testing (named by tailgaters)
is a sin.
Hang on if these clowns did not do what they do there would be no brake lights.
Have you ever thought the braking might be caused by a driver panicking at the sight of a truck far too close behind? No thought not.

Not like you to get hysterical but your quite right tailgating is stupid, never any reason for it apart from the tailgater being unfit to hold a hgv licence.

Brake testing by a so called pro driver is the ultimate sin. By any other driver it’s just stupid, but a tailgater should expect it.

But which is worse the tailgater or the brake tester.

Definitely the tailgater DD.
They initiate the situation and as I said the braking is not always done on purpose.

Rat67:

The Crown Prosecution Service : Driving without reasonable consideration

The offence of driving without reasonable consideration under section 3 of the RTA 1988 is committed only when other persons are inconvenienced by the manner of the defendant’s driving, see section 3ZA(4) RTA 1988.

The maximum penalty is a level 5 fine. The court must also either endorse the driver’s licence with between 3 and 9 penalty points (unless there are “special reasons” not to do so), or impose disqualification for a fixed period and/or until a driving test has been passed. The penalty is the same as for driving without due care and attention.

A driving without due consideration charge is more appropriate where the inconvenience is aimed at and suffered by other road users.

Note the essential difference between the two offences under section 3 of the RTA 1988 is that in cases of careless driving the prosecution need not show that any other person was inconvenienced. In cases of inconsiderate driving, there must be evidence that some other user of the road or public place was actually inconvenienced; Dilks v Bowman-Shaw [1981] RTR 4 DC.

Charging Practice

This offence is appropriate when the driving amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness in addition to some other inconvenience to road users. The following examples are typical of actions likely to be regarded as inconsiderate driving:

flashing of lights to force other drivers in front to give way;
misuse of any lane (including cycling lanes) to avoid queuing or gain some other advantage over other drivers;
unnecessarily remaining in an overtaking lane;
unnecessarily slow driving or braking without good cause;
driving with un-dipped headlights which dazzle oncoming drivers, cyclists or pedestrians;
driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed;
driving a bus in such a way as to alarm passengers.

Some of the replies here beggar belief. Had this been a Stobart/EE driver driving in such an aggressive way, the responders’ to this thread would have been calling for public flogging/castration/hanging. Hypocrisy know’s no bounds on the UK Professional Drivers Forum :smiley:

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harrawaffa:

discoman:

harrawaffa:
Get your foot down or get out of the way.

So your an advocate for the guy to speed up and break the law for a dumb idiot in a truck driving aggressive …

No I’m advocate of letting people get on with it. Rather that taking it on yourself to attempt to control the road. Just the same as people who flash their lights because you’ve over taken them or the ones who block lanes on approach to a merge in turn. If someone wants to go faster than you let them go.

This, everyone needs to concentrate on their own driving and not be hobby police

harrawaffa:

discoman:

harrawaffa:
Get your foot down or get out of the way.

No I’m advocate of letting people get on with it. Rather that taking it on yourself to attempt to control the road. Just the same as people who flash their lights because you’ve over taken them or the ones who block lanes on approach to a merge in turn. If someone wants to go faster than you let them go.

The right answer.
Too many road commanders who think its right to try to control the road and speed/manner in which someone else drives. If theres someone trying to get in your back door pull over and let them get on with it. Not everyone wants to plob along at supermarket lugging speeds…

Too many self righteous nimby types. Unless you’ve got a warrant card its nothing to do with you. Move out the way or ■■■■ it up and get on with it. Have a rant, flick the v’s or coffee bean sign instead of whinning on a bloody forum.

I can’t see the big issue with this. Everyone knows that lorry driving attracts more than its fair share of aggressive knuckle-draggers with the mental age of a stroppy teenager who are only in the job because the alternative for them is minimum wage slavery. You just have to expect such behaviour from them. I wouldn’t embarrass myself by getting involved with reporting them, brake testing them or speeding up on their account. Just ignore them.

Driving through the M1 roadworks today and watched a car driven by some old guy being tailgated by one of my fellow professionals. The woman in the passenger seat looked terrified, not surprising considering how close the lorry was to their car. I managed to create a space for them to pull back into lane one and watched the arse hole laugh as he passed me.

Not everyone is a professional driver with the ability to handle these situations, they will get scared, surely we have a duty to protect them.

Captain Caveman 76:
Driving through the M1 roadworks today and watched a car driven by some old guy being tailgated by one of my fellow professionals. The woman in the passenger seat looked terrified, not surprising considering how close the lorry was to their car. I managed to create a space for them to pull back into lane one and watched the arse hole laugh as he passed me.

Not everyone is a professional driver with the ability to handle these situations, they will get scared, surely we have a duty to protect them.

Well said Caveman.It’s a pity more drivers did not think the same way.

The problem is ignorance arrogance and a lack of brain power.
These selfish types don’t care about anyone but themselves.

It’s no wonder we have such a bad reputation.

UKtramp:
I bet he is called Malcolm most grasses are and that is a fact. He will more than likely have a caravan on his drive and is married to a wife called Audrey. He will shop in Aldi or Lidl and will most likely get upset over certain episodes on coronation street. I am an excellent profiler and psychology is my hobby.

I was going to name and shame some [zb] that attempted and failed to brake test me the other day but couldn’t be bothered. I caught a slow car up so indicated nice and early then waited for the overtaking cars to go. Just as I was about to pull out the tool behind blocked me so I gave him a sarcastic thumbs up as he passed me [emoji23] Because I’m wise to clowns like him I pulled out behind him with a decent gap so when the inevitable brake test happened it failed [emoji23] Toss3r.

Dipper_Dave:

Dr Damon:
Now I believe brake testing (named by tailgaters)
is a sin.
Hang on if these clowns did not do what they do there would be no brake lights.
Have you ever thought the braking might be caused by a driver panicking at the sight of a truck far too close behind? No thought not.

Not like you to get hysterical but your quite right tailgating is stupid, never any reason for it apart from the tailgater being unfit to hold a hgv licence.

Brake testing by a so called pro driver is the ultimate sin. By any other driver it’s just stupid, but a tailgater should expect it.

But which is worse the tailgater or the brake tester.

Erm. What you guys are referring to as a sin is recommended practice in this situation. If someone is right up your exhaust, (very hard in a V8 Scanny I know) then you are supposed to gently apply the brakes and slow down until they realise what they have done wrong and back the f*/% off.

Stomping on the brakes ala BMW is just wrong.

Honestly compels me to admit that I get a bit close on occasion, usually through the road works from Leeming Bar to Scotch Corner, when I’m stuck in the only lane I’m allowed to use and some muppett in a BMW is doing 35mph in case there is a camera around. Drives me nuts. But I don’t do the whole light flashing thing. Thats just ■■■■■■■■■

nsmith1180:

Dipper_Dave:

Dr Damon:
Now I believe brake testing (named by tailgaters)
is a sin.
Hang on if these clowns did not do what they do there would be no brake lights.
Have you ever thought the braking might be caused by a driver panicking at the sight of a truck far too close behind? No thought not.

Not like you to get hysterical but your quite right tailgating is stupid, never any reason for it apart from the tailgater being unfit to hold a hgv licence.

Brake testing by a so called pro driver is the ultimate sin. By any other driver it’s just stupid, but a tailgater should expect it.

But which is worse the tailgater or the brake tester.

Erm. What you guys are referring to as a sin is recommended practice in this situation. If someone is right up your exhaust, (very hard in a V8 Scanny I know) then you are supposed to gently apply the brakes and slow down until they realise what they have done wrong and back the f*/% off.

Stomping on the brakes ala BMW is just wrong.

Honestly compels me to admit that I get a bit close on occasion, usually through the road works from Leeming Bar to Scotch Corner, when I’m stuck in the only lane I’m allowed to use and some muppett in a BMW is doing 35mph in case there is a camera around. Drives me nuts. But I don’t do the whole light flashing thing. Thats just [zb].

Recommended practice by who?

A.

The AA, the RAC, the IAM…

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