So. I’m doing general parcel like deliveries with a few large or unexpected items. Today i had to carry 4 x BOC breathable O2 containers in a frame. They were size PW and 11m3. Strapped down with cross bars and ratchet straps but still took it easy on the twirly bits on the road. I queried it at the destination and they said it was probably ok as yesterday had carried explosive bolts for aircraft doors 
I don’t recall them and they were well packaged but even so. Do i need ADR for the above items ?
Dented:
So. I’m doing general parcel like deliveries with a few large or unexpected items. Today i had to carry 4 x BOC breathable O2 containers in a frame. They were size PW and 11m3. Strapped down with cross bars and ratchet straps but still took it easy on the twirly bits on the road. I queried it at the destination and they said it was probably ok as yesterday had carried explosive bolts for aircraft doors
Hi Dented,
I can answer your question if you could give me the UN numbers and the correct names of the items you carried please. Since you’ve mentioned gas cylinders, could you also give their approximate size please?
I’m really struggling with the logic of the people at your destination:
Dented:
I queried it at the destination and they said it was probably ok as yesterday had carried explosive bolts for aircraft doors
Sorry mate, but I need your help first!! 
I asked at the local depot down in Luton about them and said it was OK and it was only breathable air. I did point out it was compressed and therefore might be an issue but they said it wasn’t and it was clamped in a cage anyway. But we still packed it in tight. Just In Case!
Dented:
I asked at the local depot down in Luton about them and said it was OK and it was only breathable air. I did point out it was compressed and therefore might be an issue but they said it wasn’t and it was clamped in a cage anyway. But we still packed it in tight. Just In Case!
Hi Dented,
Thanks for the pics mate, I now have the answer to your first question.
The gas cylinders ARE counted as dangerous goods.
For ADR purposes, the correct description and info is:
UN 1072 OXYGEN, COMPRESSED, 2.2 (5.1)
ADR Transport Category: 3
However, it is perfectly legal for you to carry the cylinders in your pics without an ADR licence or orange plates etc, because ADR Transport Category 3 has a threshold quantity exemption ( = ‘freebie limit’) of 1,000 litres.
Please be aware that different types of dangerous goods have different exemption limits.
Just as a rough guide, I’d guess that the cylinders in your pic are approx 30 litres each.
There were 4 cylinders, so 4 X 30 litres = 120 litres, which is well within the 1,000 liter limit applicable to ADR Transport Category 3.
Since the cylinders in your pics are from BOC, here’s a link to the part of BOC website that deals with the labelling of their gas cylinders. If you scroll a little when you land, you’ll see an example of what I’ve explained above. Their example label gives 46.6 litres.
In this case and from the info you’ve given, a requirement of ADR for carriage below threshold quantity is that you must have 1 X 2kg ADR compliant dry powder fire-extinguisher on board your vehicle.
Another requirement of ADR is that dangerous goods are correctly stowed and secured; which from looking at your pics, I’d say you’ve easily met that requirement.
In connection with what we’re discussing here, please don’t listen to anybody if they start talking about Limited Quantities, cos they’re only showing their ignorance of the subject. 
As for the “explosive bolts for aircraft doors,” do you have the UN number please?
The info on the orange label on the box(es) would also be most helpful if possible please.
This would possibly be something like 1.4 and a letter, probably an “S” like this:
I hope this helps. 
OOh yes! It helps very much! Thank you Dave for your information.
Is there a booklet or something I could get that would have this helpful information in because I’m aware you’re not on 24/7 tap to ply for information and you do have a life outside of TNUK
Not sure yet about the door explosives, but I’m working on that. When asked today I had a few ‘flamable’ items pointed out to me but there wasn’t much of that, 5 x 1L containers.
It is transporting ground cargo for airport companies and stuff…
Dented:
Is there a booklet or something I could get that would have this helpful information in because I’m aware you’re not on 24/7 tap to ply for information and you do have a life outside of TNUK
Hi Dented,
There’s not really any such thing as a definitive booklet for ADR.
ADR is quite complex in that there are approx 3,500 dangerous substances and articles, plus an infinite number of chemical mixtures and solutions. Everything that’s dangerous is treated differently, so very often an exemption that applies to one dangerous substance or article might not apply to another.
Exemptions are also made a little more complicated by the fact that some of them apply to the type of transport operation, rather than to a substance.
Dented:
Not sure yet about the door explosives, but I’m working on that.
On the basis of a guess at UN 0174, I’ve stuck my neck out slightly with the 1.4S label above.
Now here’s a thing about exemptions… If my guess is correct, you can carry as many of these as your vehicle can carry, because ADR sets NO threshold limits for 1.4S, and yes; they DO count as explosives!!
Dented:
When asked today I had a few ‘flamable’ items pointed out to me but there wasn’t much of that, 5 x 1L containers.
Lots of exemptions available here, so I don’t imagine any problem with this load.
Dented:
It is transporting ground cargo for airport companies and stuff…
I might be able to offer you yet another strange exemption here.
Movement at and around a place and in the same vicinity are usually exempt ADR, even if part of the journey involves you driving on a public road. Strange, but true.