corij:
believe boris is fuellin the fire and the likes of tesco are bowing to his demands faking they cant cope . but LIDL IS NOT following suit , noticed theyre doing double delivering ,a leased artic pulled out of my local one jus before midday, the shelves arent at all empty theyve fought and won . How come Morrison has no fruit n veg,not 1 bit but nobody much is panic buying it. i believe theyve been told make it all look like the countries in sheetstreet only Lidl wont cow tow , good on yer lidl!
Why on earth would the government want to do that? The fire in regard to panic buying is being fuelled by social media, the newspapers and 24hr rolling news bombarding people with scenes of stripped shelves and crowds, but the threat of the virus is real. It’s got the potential to kill certain people and totally overwhelm the NHS & there is no medicine or vaccine, this is fact not scaremongering.
Any conspiracy theories that this virus is some sort of hoax or being deliberately overplayed have been totally quashed for me in the last few days, where we have seen a TORY government give the nod to shutting down tons to businesses to potentially great cost to the economy whilst committing to spending billions on propping up peoples wages. They simply wouldn’t be doing these things if this wasn’t serious. Seems its not “jus the flu” afterall
None of it adds up.
Surely the script would be expected to go along the lines of there is no supply problem whatsoever.The government advises that people buy as much as possible that they can store and use within shelf or frozen life during each shopping visit.So as to minimise the amount of visits needed thereby minimising exposure to interactions with others and staff.
No fresh meat in shops last week
And also my mates freezer packed up. No freezers where available either. And another mate his neighbour had 2 chest freezers delivered last week FFS!
pierrot 14:
The goods are there ffs, shouldn’t the supermarkets control the actual amount each and every person actually buys ?
That statement is obviously an oxymoron.
The goods ain’t there because the trucks ain’t there because the stuff is being with held or going somewhere else.You know like zb China.
Control the amount that what person buys where what person do you mean.I was more or less the only person in the shop here Friday evening no trucks on the bays nothing being put on the shelves.Went home with a pack of prawn and mayo sandwiches for Friday and Tuna and Mayo for Saturday when ironically I’m usually moaning because they haven’t got any and I can’t afford Sirloin steak more than once every two weeks.Oh and 4 bog rolls when they said I could take as many as I wanted from the two unpacked pallets in the aisle, a big bottle of bleach, and a roll of food bin liners and a pot of clotted cream to put with the apple pie I was going to make before I found out that the butter and rolled pastry shelves were as empty as all the rest.So stewed apples it will be to go with the tinned salmon sandwiches I’ll make from the two cans I bought in M and S last week with the apples.Don’t ask where I got the bread sufficient to say the friendly local bakers where I’ve been a customer for over 20 years who always keeps my usual bread order on Saturdays because his shelves are always cleared out by 10 am in the best of times.
pierrot 14:
I see on tv news, newspaper pictures and on media posts long queues outside stores, empty shelves etc.
but in reality is this real ? Is this just hype to create panic amongst the general people ?
The stores have reserves, the RDC’s are not empty, the trucks are rolling to supply the RDC’s
along with trucks supplying the stores, the goods are there, why aren’t the public getting them ?
Crying medical staff on tv pleading that they can’t get food because of empty shelves when they finish their shifts !
The goods are there ffs, shouldn’t the supermarkets control the actual amount each and every person actually buys ?
I have a feeling the stores are preparing to cash in on this one. At first they thought it was going to be over in a few days but now they’re taking steps to take full advantage of the situation. They’ve reduced their opening times, haven’t hired any additional staff (some internal shifts in some chains but that’s about it, everything else is in future tense), didn’t impose limits or those that did never really enforced them (yes, aggressive customers but that’s why you have police + face recognition cams in stores so they could’ve banned them from visiting again but nahh, why kill the whales), next thing that’s coming is a price hike to ‘reflect increased supply costs caused by increased demand’ or somesuch managerial crap talk
Apparently there is now food worth over £1 billion (B) sitting in people’s homes, that’s what they said in yesterday’s press conference
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but the Supermarket’s official line of complaining about all this, and condemning these panic buying clowns is all ■■■■■■■■…they’ll be loving it, it stands to reason.
Increase in business, increase in turnover, increase in profits and share value.
I finished work yesterday and went to get some fresh milk and bread to take home, it was about 5pm so it was quiet.
Virtually nothing on the shelves , certainly no milk, but they were baking bread which they had been all day.
Walked round to the beer aisle, nothing, then one of their guys came round with ONE case of John Smith’s, so I put it in my trolley, normally I would get a couple of cases to last me at home, and put some in ny truck fridge, then he told me I was only allowed 12 cans from it.
Crazy times.
robroy:
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but the Supermarket’s official line of complaining about all this, and condemning these panic buying clowns is all ■■■■■■■■…they’ll be loving it, it stands to reason.
Increase in business, increase in turnover, increase in profits and share value.
You reckon?
When the hoarders eat there frozen and tinned, that is reduced sales for the supermarkets later. At the end of this year, happen overall sales wont be up by much if at all. Their famously efficient just-in-time systems (I aint saying they are driver friendly) are running ragged and costing them more. They are paying over time and agency to get things done now, but may have idle workers later.
Are they charging double or anything? If they did there would be a justified outcry and payback.
No, I can`t see they are doing well out of this.
RDCs have the stock,trouble is they dont always have the loading docks to cope with the extra trailers required as they already run 24/7 on the docks they have.
My Daughter works at Atherstone RDC she told me the work force from office staff to maintenance that has toe caps shoes or boots gathering dust in the bottom of the cupboard are
being asked to volunteer to work in the warehouse to help cope with the extra demand as they are working flat out worse than Xmas
I went to Morrisons last night at 8 ish, it was pretty much dead, I got all the fruit, salad and milk I wanted, there was no bread, but there was loads of baps so got them instead.
The beer isle, raw meat and frozen stuff had taken a beating! But didn’t need any of that as we do a monthly shop then top up weekly, although I did get some bacon for bacon bap sarnies for this morning!
I can see and think we pretty much need lockdown very soon, the seafront here was like a normal summers day
robroy:
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but the Supermarket’s official line of complaining about all this, and condemning these panic buying clowns is all ■■■■■■■■…they’ll be loving it, it stands to reason.
Increase in business, increase in turnover, increase in profits and share value.
You reckon?
When the hoarders eat there frozen and tinned, that is reduced sales for the supermarkets later. At the end of this year, happen overall sales wont be up by much if at all. Their famously efficient just-in-time systems (I aint saying they are driver friendly) are running ragged and costing them more. They are paying over time and agency to get things done now, but may have idle workers later.
Are they charging double or anything? If they did there would be a justified outcry and payback.
No, I can`t see they are doing well out of this.
Looks like we disagree once again then…it’s becoming a habit.
robroy:
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but the Supermarket’s official line of complaining about all this, and condemning these panic buying clowns is all ■■■■■■■■…they’ll be loving it, it stands to reason.
Increase in business, increase in turnover, increase in profits and share value.
You reckon?
When the hoarders eat there frozen and tinned, that is reduced sales for the supermarkets later. At the end of this year, happen overall sales wont be up by much if at all. Their famously efficient just-in-time systems (I aint saying they are driver friendly) are running ragged and costing them more. They are paying over time and agency to get things done now, but may have idle workers later.
Are they charging double or anything? If they did there would be a justified outcry and payback.
No, I can`t see they are doing well out of this.
Looks like we disagree once again then…it’s becoming a habit.
robroy:
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but the Supermarket’s official line of complaining about all this, and condemning these panic buying clowns is all ■■■■■■■■…they’ll be loving it, it stands to reason.
Increase in business, increase in turnover, increase in profits and share value.
You reckon?
When the hoarders eat there frozen and tinned, that is reduced sales for the supermarkets later. At the end of this year, happen overall sales wont be up by much if at all. Their famously efficient just-in-time systems (I aint saying they are driver friendly) are running ragged and costing them more. They are paying over time and agency to get things done now, but may have idle workers later.
Are they charging double or anything? If they did there would be a justified outcry and payback.
No, I can`t see they are doing well out of this.
Do you think that the panic buyers are only panic buying tinned and frozen products? Or will you concede that they are also mass buying stuff such as milk and fresh foods with short best before dates? Inevitably they end up pouring the unused out of date milk down the sink and throwing food into the bin. They also inevitably will go out and massively restock once again with short life products.
So I’d contend that yes, the supermarket sales figures will be massively enhanced over the entire period and also well after the lockdown has ended.
robroy:
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but the Supermarket’s official line of complaining about all this, and condemning these panic buying clowns is all ■■■■■■■■…they’ll be loving it, it stands to reason.
Increase in business, increase in turnover, increase in profits and share value.
You reckon?
When the hoarders eat there frozen and tinned, that is reduced sales for the supermarkets later. At the end of this year, happen overall sales wont be up by much if at all. Their famously efficient just-in-time systems (I aint saying they are driver friendly) are running ragged and costing them more. They are paying over time and agency to get things done now, but may have idle workers later.
Are they charging double or anything? If they did there would be a justified outcry and payback.
No, I can`t see they are doing well out of this.
Do you think that the panic buyers are only panic buying tinned and frozen products? Or will you concede that they are also mass buying stuff such as milk and fresh foods with short best before dates? Inevitably they end up pouring the unused out of date milk down the sink and throwing food into the bin. They also inevitably will go out and massively restock once again with short life products.
So I’d contend that yes, the supermarket sales figures will be massively enhanced over the entire period and also well after the lockdown has ended.
But doesnt that assume greater sales of fresh goods? And fresh milk doesnt come out of a tap. fresh lettuces and carrots dont grow overnight. I dont see that mpre fresh will be produced to create these much greater sales.
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And milk can be frozen, same as carrots and other fresh stuff, although lettuce goes limp and horrible.
Again this causes a spike now, and dip later, making problems in the supermarket plans for smooth deliveries.
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I`m not normally a defender of big shops etc, just saying they are not big winners here.
EDIT yes there will probably be waste by inefficient food use of the panickers, but not enough to give benefit to stores
Everyone’s believing the hype
On social media etc
I partly blame the supermarkets as well for appearing on news raido.media saying don’t panic we can cope.
People don’t tend to believe officials if they say don’t panic we will.
And no one’s really mentioned shops profiteering.
I’ll name asda as where I usually shop. Most of there sandwich stuff sliced ham chicken etc used be 2 for £3.00 there offers have all but disappeared . Prices seem.to have risen. Even on non essentials like cat food.
I am assuming greater sales of fresh goods. You are correct that milk doesn’t come from taps and carrots etc do not magically appear, but you are assuming that the producers already sell 100% of their produce. They don’t. Large amounts of over produce goes to landfill/pig farms etc whereas now the supermarkets are buying and shifting far larger amounts of fresh produce than pre Covid.
We may have to agree to disagree on this one my friend but I’ll stand by my contention that supermarkets are seeing a massive spike in turnover and will not see a downturn or drop when normalcy returns.
the maoster:
I am assuming greater sales of fresh goods. You are correct that milk doesn’t come from taps and carrots etc do not magically appear, but you are assuming that the producers already sell 100% of their produce. They don’t. Large amounts of over produce goes to landfill/pig farms etc whereas now the supermarkets are buying and shifting far larger amounts of fresh produce than pre Covid.
We may have to agree to disagree on this one my friend but I’ll stand by my contention that supermarkets are seeing a massive spike in turnover and will not see a downturn or drop when normalcy returns.
“A massive spike in turnover”, I totally agree, yes. And I expect you are correct that some mis-shapes and bruised etc that previously would have been binned is now sat in pride of place on a happy hunters mantlepiece.
But that current spike probably wont turn into a big rise in profits, Id have thought.
edd1974:
Everyone’s believing the hype
On social media etc
I partly blame the supermarkets as well for appearing on news raido.media saying don’t panic we can cope.
People don’t tend to believe officials if they say don’t panic we will.
Some panic as a matter of course, yes.
And some believing all they read on unregulated, unedited, media sites has long been an issue in many fields.
But that is no reason have supermarket bosses stay quiet. Having them and others tell us there is no need to panic is probably a good rather than a bad thing surely?
If they stayed quiet the soshial media would jump and down saying that is proof of this self induced problem.
There is no underlying problem. We dont have bombers attacking trains and roads, we dont have U-boats sinking cross channel ferries!
A difficult cycle to break, but calm will see it end sooner rather than later.
, certainly no milk, but they were baking bread which they had been all day.
