Yeah I agree ERF although I wouldn’t want to discourage Valkerie from posting in future. Your almost correct in your which types of cabs are these pic and I have to admit I’m not a Foden expert but do have an excellent book written by Harold Nancollis who joined the firm of Foden in 1937 as an apprentice and went on to become the Chief Draughtsman, Technical Sales Manager and Service Manager before retiring in 1982 hence most of the information given is from the Horses mouth so to speak. Included is the same photo of the Foden trio and with the following details.
The picture is a Foden publicity shot to announce the new collection of vehicle names ending in ‘Master’ which was launched in 1977. Truckmaster was the term used to describe the whole range in the initial advertising campaign but Fleetmaster (1st left), Haulmaster (2nd centre), Super Haulmaster (3rd right) are the names of the models released. The ad also has some text on each model relating to Boxing analogies such as for the Fleetmaster; ‘Foden Truckmasters pack a punch with style’, the other two pieces of text are similar and in the bottom right corner items of Lonsdale Boxing gear is displayed. This text and the boxing kit isn’t shown in the above pic.
The Foden Gun tractor also in one of the pictures above is also in the book and a vehicle well known to me as I drove one during my TA service towing the FH70 Gun as in the pic, it was a delight to drive although we were banned from reversing with the Gun attached on our own despite being a 38tonne HGV driver and having to do this daily, a ridiculous regulation brought about when someone was killed in another unit by a reversing Tractor and Gun and so you had to have the approval of an Officer to carry out a reversing manoeuvre!
I only mention this military Foden as in the book Harold says during production of the Low Mobility vehicles, Tippers, tankers, general cargo types there was a delay in the availability of the S90 Steel cabs which at one point lead Foden to visit the Saviem factory to consider fitting their steel cabs! An interesting bit of info and some 8 wheelers were initially fitted with Glassfibre cabs instead of steel. Hope this was of some use Cheers Franky.
Absolutely brilliant Franky!
Thanks so much for that - I didn’t even know about the book.
I have ‘procured’ 
a couple of complete ex MoD low mobility S90 cabs (complete with big round hole in the roofs) to help restore my own trucks with this series of cab, but they are LHD, and converting them to RHD is going to be an epic job!. I’ll have to post some pics of the cabs, it might bring back some memories for you!.
ERF-NGC-European:
Everyone had a Sabrina, of course: here is Scania’s latest offering!
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Well I must say that this looks more like the Sabrina than the Mickey Mouse S 21 Foden ever did of course this is just my humble oppinion, Being a dedicated Foden Owner Driver, , Regards Larry.
Frankydobo:
Oh dear I wondered how long it would be before World War Three broke out when Valkerie’s post on the ‘Sabrina’ list of cabs was read. I’m not going to be dragged into it fully this time but will give this two pennyworth, I recall I may have been an early decenter when he posted his original statement on the subject. (can’t be bothered to dig up dates accounts etc)
- Because at the time he made no mention of the ERF (as we know it) Sabrina having a similar tag (therefore was he not aware of it).
- In his words his info had came from an old hand so must have been correct according to him but did not seem to believe this chap had confused the Foden with the ERF just as some have before and on this site too.
- He stated the nickname ‘Mickey Mouse’ was not given to the S21 cab as this was a ‘Sputnick’ and mickey mouse referred to something that was not genuine or well made which sounded to me that he had no idea the cab took its name from the favourite Disney cartoon character, surely he has heard of him!
- Although many may believe Valkerie is a mine of information and knowledge it seems to me most of it comes from Wikipedia and the net which can be very informative but also misleading and unfortunately incorrect, after all it relies on input from the human mind which we all know can get things confused, mixed up or plain wrong. I’ve discovered this at times searching for facts on not only commercial vehicle history but also military history where I also have an interest. While I won’t discount altogether his claim that relations, friends and others have the same opinion as him on this it is worth pointing out the human has a well known ability to recount memories incorrectly, but not only that, also to convince others what they are saying is correct. If the Foden types he suggests did have the Sabrina nickname then it may have been a locality thing just as some call a Bun a Bap or a Roll depending where you come from (lets not get into that!) and we will have to allow him that, however it seems from the above replies he can take offence to anyone disputing his ‘facts’. I prefer to avoid his posts but that’s my choice, I’m in danger of over cooking this myself so I’ll stop now, like I said just my two pennyworth and that’s all. Cheers Franky.
TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.Foden Model Range.Foden SPACESHIP SPUTNIK Cab,Research,Etc.VALKYRIE.Thursday,3rd August,2017.
Hello 
.Hoperfully this isn’t going to be a long post.I’ll deal with ERF,Rigsby,Bewick and maybe other posts later on - and my reply to them will
probably be a long post
Meanwhile,with respect,Frankydobo’s above post requires immediate remedial action It’s a tangled concoction of half-facts,mistakes,conjecture and gives people the wrong impression about me.
Before I start with the true facts I will say this:It is only recently that I have started to post fairly regularly…and even when I did in 2012-2014
period it wasn’t that often anyway. In 2015 I hardly posted anything because I underwent one of the weirdest psychic and emotional experiences
that I’ve had in my life,and it took me some time to recover,so I hardly posted anything in 2016 as well.
I started posting again in May-June 2017.So during all this time I haven’t mentioned Foden S24-S39 Sabrina’s and Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik’s once! 
I thought that I’ll be diplomatic considering all the arguments that we had in 2012-2013. Coomsey came out with this Foden Model Range Thread. I thought I’ll take a chance,and posted my friend’s Foden cab list on this thread. The way Rigsby reacted the other day anybody would have
thought that I had been posting none-stop about this subject on this forum since 2012! 
He went completey over-the-top. He has a ridiculous and wrong attitude.Facts.
1.And now Mr.Frankydobo. There were two or three ? 
of your posts in 2012-2013 re the the Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik,Foden S24-S39 Sabrina Cabs and the ERF SF Sabrina model. This is how I answered you in 2012:-
QUOTE: FODEN S21 Spaceship Sputnik Cab.
Postby VALKYRIE » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:26 am
Lawrence Dunbar wrote:
QUOTE:Frankydobo wrote:
This Foden S21 Spaceship-cabbed lorry was probably an FG,but it still could be one of the other models.
Don’t you mean ‘Sputnik’ instead of Spaceship, the S21 got this nickname before becoming more commonly known as the ‘Mickey Mouse’ cab, due to the release date being around the same time as the Russian Sputnik space rocket launch.UNQUOTE.Lawrence Dunbar QUOTE:You are quite correct there F/D, they were refered to as the Sputnick, But then of course Mickey Mouse became the famous name for the S21, which I think was the better choice, Regards Larry.UNQUOTE.
VALKYRIE QUOTE:Actually,gentlemen,you are both wrong:-
THE FODEN STORY,Pat Kennett,published in 1978,page 153. S21 SPACESHIP and S21 SPUTNIK.
FODEN TRUCKS IN CAMERA,E.L.Cornwell,published in 1981,page 50. S21 SPACESHIP and S21 SPUTNIK.
FODEN SPECIAL VEHICLES,Wobbe Reitsma,published in 2012,page 206.S21 SPACESHIP and S21 SPUTNIK.
All of the above three books all document both the SPUTNIK and SPACESHIP names for the Foden S21 Cab,on the respective pages listed above…and the first two books do not even mention the un-stylish and
derogatory “Mickey Mouse” nickname - which is usually used to describe third rate,rubbishy and derogatory things in the first place! Whats more,from what I have gathered on the BIGLORRYBLOG Website,some of the Foden Old Guard,who were steeped in traditional coachbuilding,re metal and wood construction cabs,looked down on the newfangled GRP S21 Spaceship Cab and started calling it a “Mickey Mouse” cab. They thought that it’s GRP construction was cheap and nasty.
The Foden S21 Sputnik and Spaceship names have also been mentioned in various commercial vehicle and lorry magazines over the years,WIKIPEDIA also documents these names - and the Sabrina name for the S39,S36,S34 and S24 Cabs (no relation to the ERF Sabrina) - in the Foden history.
Some lorry enthusiasts use the Sputnik name,others use the Spaceship same,while other enthusiasts use the Spaceship Sputnik names together. Both names are very appropriate for the flamboyant,beautiful and
futuristic Foden S21 Cab -futuristic? It was in 1958,at the start of the present day space age when this cab was introduced,and they are the reasons why discerning and perceptive commercial vehicle journalists christened the Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik Cab with the classy and stylish Spaceship and Sputnik names 
VALKYRIE. UNQUOTE.
So you have clearly forgotten what I actually said in my above post.
2.Are you referring to Sepo? I’ve quoted his remarks umpteen times on TruckNetUK and I suppose I will have to do so all over again :-
Sepo :-
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Sepo » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:12 pm
when growimg up this model was always remarked to as the Sabrina cab… ERF also used the name on one of there rigid models with a bonnet on.
Photograph of his father’s Foden S39 Sabrina 4AXB6/32 4x2 Articulated Lorry,ONE 347H,operated by Claribel Carriers,of Manchester :-
3.I’ve already answered this about the classy,romantic and adventureous S21 Spaceship Sputnik nickname and the derogatory “Mickey Mouse” nickname in No.1.The objective facts are that Mickey Mouse is a synonym for anything that is cheap,nasty,crap,poor,etc - as I wrote above - it may be cute for the Walt Disney character,BUT it ain’t cute at all,is a disgrace and a INSULT to the Foden S21 SPACESHIP SPUTNIK CAB!
And it wants banning in this context.Seriously. I’m proud to be discerning (some would say a snob? ) when it comes to certain things,and this is one of them. As long as I’m discerning (I am not a social snob) I know that I’ve got class
And I’ll tell what else wants banning in the context of steam and motor lorries and motor trucks:wagon - waggon.This is purely an animal-drawn
vehicle no more,no less. It is a retrograde step and an insult to use this term for steam and motor lorries and motor trucks for obvious reasons.And yes I know that Sentinel,Foden,Atkinson,et al used this term,but it was and is an outdated term in the context of mechanical steam and motor
lorries and motor trucks Facts.
A.I’m a Motor Vehicle Enthusiast very interested in motor vehicles of all type and kinds:Motorcycles. Motorcars. Vans. Lorries. Motorcoaches. Buses. Steam Road Vehicles. Military Vehicles. Fairground Vehicles. And related subjects. But for reasons of time and expense I mainly concentrate
on Steam Road Vehicles,Commercial Vehicles,Buses,Motorcoaches,Military and Fairground Vehicles.
B.Therefore I’ve got loads of books,and I still keep collecting and buying new and secondhand books,on all of the above subjects.Likewise,I have,
and buy,many magazines on motor and steam vehicles - I just buy these occasionally.
C.I buy these publications not only for entertainment but,more importantly,for serious research and information reference! It’s great having “all” the information to hand! And I only wish that there were a PSV Circle equivalent for lorry enthusiasts! - The Guy Big J Gardner 8LXB 240-250 Tractive Unit Mystery would have been cleared up years since! …in fact,there would have been no mystery at all because everything would have been thoroughly documented - chassis nos.,engine nos.,operaters,fleet nos.dates of in and out of service,re-builds,the whole works,etc And they would probably be a good number of photographs,including rear and side views of Gardner 8LXB installed in Guy Big J4T tractive unit photographs! Seriously
At the risk of blowing my own trumpet:-I am the man who virtually solved the Guy Big J4T Gardner 8LXB 240-25O Tractive Unit Mystery With the help,of course,of the British Commercial Vehicle Museum and the Anson Engine Museum.
This proves how serious I am about research and trying to obtain only objective facts I am also a perfectionist.
D.There are also numerous other avenues of research,which I have been known to use
E.I have no less than seven - 7 - books on Foden history so far,including a copy of the one that you have got:Foden My Life With The Company,Harold Nancollis,and loads of other books by Pat Kennett, Peter Davies,Graham Edge - Gingerfold,Wobbe Reitsma,Nick Georgano,Arthur Ingram,Michael Sedgwick,Fred Crismon,Bart H.Vanderveen,Jeff Clew,Hugh Conway,Alan Townsin,Ken Blacker,Pat Ware,Michael Ross Lane,Ronald H.Clark,Maurice D. Hendry,Alan Millar,Nick Baldwin,Doug Jack,Mark B.Simiele,Ralf J.F.Kieselbach,Malcolm Slater,Beverly Rae Kimes,Richard M.Langworth,David Tremayne,Gordon Mustoe,Bob Tuck,Ron Adams,Robert Gabrick,Stewart J.Brown,Gavin Booth,Eric Dymock,James Taylor,Graham Robson,Colin Peck,Graham Turner,Walter M.P.McCall,etc,etc.
Some of these authors have written definitive books on their subjects,are members of the Society Of Automotive Historians,and have received
awards for their written work…And if it wasn’t for all these authors our knowledge of all forms of road vehicles,individual marques,models,manufacturers,general history,etc,would be very poor indeed.I admire all of these automotive,motor vehicle and steam road vehicle writers and they inspire me
F.You don’t knock books and the Internet generally,I’m sure.The written word in book form,magazine form,etc,and the Internet are two of the greatest inventions in the history of Humankind Of course there is false and incorrect information not only on the Internet,but also in books.But mostly the information in books,magazines and the Internet is genuine.
G.Having said that,the Foden history on Wkipedia covers just one page with references at the bottom,and the Foden information that I’ve posted on this forum couldn’t possibly be covered on that one single page
H.I mainly rely on books,magazines,marque newsletters,people,etc,rather than the Internet.I usually only use the Internet for photograph research,trying to get confirmation on things,and yes,if it’s good quality,information on what I’m researching. As in books and magazines,so it is on the Internet:you have to be discerning,critical and cross reference information if possible,etc.
I.There is an establishment in the United Kingdom where if I lived close by,I would be in there nearly every day of the week researching!
…come to think of it,there are also several other places where I would do some research!
J.It has been established from the start that the Foden Spaceship Sputnik,S24-S39 Sabrina,S24-S39 Cottage Loaf,S21 “mickey mouse” (ugh! 
) and S21 Sabrina Cab nicknames are regional names.And,as my friends,I and other people have been saying for years,the Internet has broken down the information barriers between town to town,county to county,country to country and countless items of ‘new’
information has come to light! ,including Foden cab names …and you cannot get away from all of these objective facts
K.I do have other interests:Shortwave Radio,History of Radio,Music of all kinds,Railways,Aeroplanes,Films.Psychic-Supernatural Research,UFOs,etc.The last two-named subjects have taught me to be critical,discerning and broadminded,and this has also helped me to
have the same attitude when researching steam and motor vehicles and other subjects
L.I have friends and relations on the Internet on various websites,we help each other out if need be,etc,etc …TruckNetUK is on the Internet as well
Did I say that this was going to be a short post? 
…you know what they say: The best laid plans of mice and men…
VALKYRIE
I have heard that the S21 when first introduced was nicknamed the Sputnik cab, I have also seen it named as that in an old book on commercial vehicles that is ‘somewhere’ around the house. However Mickey Mouse seems to have been the more common name given to it, due I presume to the slight resemblance (the narrow cab base, the wide centre part of the cab narrowing down again higher up and the mirrors for ears) in the head on view to Disneys creation, and that is what has stuck in most of our minds I think?
Pete.
Your right Windrush it was never called a Sabrina that nickname belongs to the ERF already shown on the site end of story, I can’t even be bothered to read through the diatribe above despite it being in reply to my posts and besides I did say I wasn’t going to get drawn into a pointless discussion about something that is just plain incorrect. This old chestnut goes way back to when I believe Valkyrie was known as Renee Pilot and if its not him he’s got a twin that’s as stubborn!
Cheers Franky.
ERF:
…I have owned one of the November 1977 built ‘Haulmaster’ product launch vehicles for some time, a standard 4x2 tractor unit, and I have access to another four of this ‘rare’ model. All the others are 1978 and 79 builds, day and sleeper cabs, all recorded as S90 cabs on the chassis plate and build sheets…
That blows my above theory out of the water, and no mistake . They are all S90s, apart from the Fleetmaster, with the twin lamps in the moulded lower panel. Hmmm… Is it too easy to conclude that there was no S91 or S93?
Valkyrie’s assertion that the single-screen Universal was a prototype holds water- there is only one vehicle of that description anywhere on the internet, that I can find- that 6x4 tipper with the big single lamps. All other export-type S90s had split 'screens, as far as I can see.
Regarding the trio of lorries you posted above, I reckon the S10 in the middle was a Haulmaster, using the rule that Haulmasters had the split 'screens while the Fleetmaster, as the fancy version, had a single 'screen. I have since found a Foden advert on the internet, showing Fleetmasters with both windscreen arrangements. I reckon that was an error on Foden’s part.
[zb]
anorak:ERF:
…I have owned one of the November 1977 built ‘Haulmaster’ product launch vehicles for some time, a standard 4x2 tractor unit, and I have access to another four of this ‘rare’ model. All the others are 1978 and 79 builds, day and sleeper cabs, all recorded as S90 cabs on the chassis plate and build sheets…That blows my above theory out of the water, and no mistake
Valkyrie’s assertion that the single-screen Universal was a prototype holds water- there is only one vehicle of that description anywhere on the internet, that I can find- that 6x4 tipper with the big single lamps. All other export-type S90s had split 'screens, as far as I can see.
Regarding the trio of lorries you reposted above, I reckon the S10 in the middle was a Haulmaster, using the rule that Haulmasters had the split 'screens while the Fleetmaster, as the fancy version, had a single 'screen. I have since found a Foden advert on the internet, showing Fleetmasters with both windscreen arrangements. I reckon that was an error on Foden’s part.
I certainly would not conclude there was no S91 or S93, I can just say that I have never come across one, and the reference in at least one book read by Valkyrie that the Haulmaster tractor units were cabbed with the S93 is wrong - unless Foden recorded the cab type incorrectly on their chassis plates and build sheets.
Under the cab the S90 Haulmaster tractor units are virtually identical to the old S83 tractor units, but to which the Haulmaster name was not applied. These are regarded as ‘old Foden’, and were really the last vehicles produced in numbers with Foden’s in house axles and gearbox. On these earlier models, when the S80 cab was improved with better heater, dashboard…etc to become the S83, the change was recorded on the build sheet and chassis plate of vehicles so fitted. The S95 Fleetmaster was an entirely new vehicle, and was Foden’s first to be assembled almost entirely from bought in components. It was massive step forward, and took Foden years ahead of previous models with features like the long parabolic springs and well appointed cab, the interior of which was better equipped than the S90, especially in sleeper cab form. The only major Foden component fitted to these Fleetmaster models was their 6.5 Ton front axle.
How many Foden ‘Universal’ trucks were produced I don’t know. It was a model aimed at export markets, and Foden obviously had intentions of volume production because a full colour brochure was produced!. It’s a long time since I saw this brochure, but I think it contained photos of more than one truck with the single screen.
It’s impossible to conclude anything regarding split or single screen as it was a customer option. The standard was split for the S90 Haulmaster, and all seem to have be so equipped, and single screen for the S95, but I have seen both types fitted to S95 Fleetmaster’s, the split screen being popular in export markets. To get technical, the split screen S95 cab was really just an S90 cab shell with the S95 front panels and interior fitted!.
When the fibreglass S10 cab became available in 1979, Fleetmaster’s were available with either the S95 or S10 cab until 1980, the last S95 Fleetmaster’s being a batch supplied to Esso in 1980. The S90 Haulmaster tractor units were dropped in 1979, and from that point on the Haulmaster name applied only to S10 rigid vehicles.
Fleetmaster and Haulmaster names continued through production of the improved S10 Mk2 cab introduced for 1981, but were dropped when the S10 Mk3 cab (with rectangular headlamps) appeared in 1983. From this point the model reference was simply S104 for a four-wheeler, S106 for a six-wheeler and S108 for an eight - a designation applied from the start of S10 production, but not widely used until now. All three versions of the S10 could be specified with either split or single screen, but as far as I am aware, the Mk4 cab as fitted to the 4000 series from 1987, could only be supplied with a single screen.
Fair bit of disagreement on here but gradually getting there I feel. One comment by VALKYRIE I’m fairly confident we can agree on (?) Fodens model range is a minefield. Seems to me if they’d got a few cabs spare they plonked em on the next chassis down the line.
coomsey:
?..Seems to me if they’d got a few cabs spare they plonked em on the next chassis down the line.
I wouldn’t really agree with that myself. Fodens were never known for building chassis for dealer stock, each vehicle being built to an order. Customers got whichever (available) cab they ordered for their vehicle. I can recall Foden production actually being held up waiting for cabs in the 1970’s, so there was not much chance of a cab surplus!.
ERF:
coomsey:
?..Seems to me if they’d got a few cabs spare they plonked em on the next chassis down the line.I wouldn’t really agree with that myself. Fodens were never known for building chassis for dealer stock, each vehicle being built to an order. Customers got whichever (available) cab they ordered for their vehicle. I can recall Foden production actually being held up waiting for cabs in the 1970’s, so there was not much chance of a cab surplus!.
So a bit of "I would like a 180G 8whlr with S80 cab please "
"How about 8whlr with RR nS39 cab can do that for you next year "
ERF:
…When the fibreglass S10 cab became available in 1979, Fleetmaster’s were available with either the S95 or S10 cab until 1980, the last S95 Fleetmaster’s being a batch supplied to Esso in 1980. The S90 Haulmaster tractor units were dropped in 1979, and from that point on the Haulmaster name applied only to S10 rigid vehicles…
I thought the S10 cab was first fitted to the Haulmaster chassis, the “premium” vehicle retaining its all-steel cab until a bit later? Apologies for impertinent negativity and appearing to make a bid for the “biggest nutter on the thread” trophy.
I occasionally meet one of Fodens old line managers at vintage shows, he exhibits barn engines as I do, and I mentioned that I used to work for Tilcon who were one of their largest customers. He said that they liked a Tilcon order because if a new customer wanted an eight wheeler tipper chassis they could ‘borrow’ one off of the Tilcon line for him and he would be pleased at the quick delivery time! Tilcon usually had just the basic model when Foden made their own worm driven axles etc pre Paccar, we had no diff locks or third diffs and the drivers seat was the cheapest thing available. Even when the first Paccar models came we didn’t have cross locks or an air seat, imagine my surprise when I later drove a D Reg six wheeler (ex Smiths) and it had both cross locks and an air seat!! Luxury haha. Then that was sold and I had an ex ARC F reg one, back to the basic seat again!
Pete.
Bewick:
…this “Valkyrie” geezer sounds like a MK2 “CF” to me … Cheers Dennis.
To help occasional readers of this site, I think we need a thread which puts all the nutters in rank order, so people can put their rantings into the correct context. The curator of this list needs to be a proven down-to-earth character, who can spot a maniac at 30 paces. I nominate your good self for this important task, Mr. B.
PS I expect to be somewhere in the top ten.
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anorak:ERF:
…When the fibreglass S10 cab became available in 1979, Fleetmaster’s were available with either the S95 or S10 cab until 1980, the last S95 Fleetmaster’s being a batch supplied to Esso in 1980. The S90 Haulmaster tractor units were dropped in 1979, and from that point on the Haulmaster name applied only to S10 rigid vehicles…I thought the S10 cab was first fitted to the Haulmaster chassis, the “premium” vehicle retaining its all-steel cab until a bit later? Apologies for impertinent negativity and appearing to make a bid for the “biggest nutter on the thread” trophy.
You have no chance of assuming the mantle of “Thread Nutter” Anorak as this trophy was won outright, hands down, many years ago by The Leatherhead Leper and it appears only now that a credible Challenger, in the form of Valkyrie, has come forward to challenge for the trophy and that’s if “CF” hasn’t pawned it for the price of a few bevvy’s ! Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
You have no chance of assuming the mantle of “Thread Nutter” Anorak as this trophy was won outright, hands down, many years ago by The Leatherhead Leper and it appears only now that a credible Challenger, in the form of Valkyrie, has come forward to challenge for the trophy and that’s if “CF” hasn’t pawned it for the price of a few bevvy’s ! Cheers Dennis.
To be fair I also threw in the engine and chassis number of the JAL 1628 incident UFO and the location of Flight 19 and the missing search aircraft. But the only Sabrina I knew was the 1980’s Italian pop star.Who in typical form ironically didn’t seem to rely on,or need,the ‘wardrobe enhancements’,that the earlier version seems to have done to meet the required specification,going by her appearance in the Arthur Askey This Is Your Life episode.
I can also confirm that references to Mickey Mouse,or the Sabrina of either era,let alone space craft weren’t applied to the S85 at least.On that note you barmy old ■■■■■ have got the nerve to call me bleedin mad.
Carryfast:
Bewick:
You have no chance of assuming the mantle of “Thread Nutter” Anorak as this trophy was won outright, hands down, many years ago by The Leatherhead Leper and it appears only now that a credible Challenger, in the form of Valkyrie, has come forward to challenge for the trophy and that’s if “CF” hasn’t pawned it for the price of a few bevvy’s ! Cheers Dennis.
To be fair I also threw in the engine and chassis number of the JAL 1628 incident UFO and the location of Flight 19 and the missing search aircraft.
I can also confirm that references to Mickey Mouse,or the Sabrina of either era,let alone space craft weren’t applied to the S85 at least.On that note you barmy old ■■■■■ have got the nerve to call me bleedin mad.
CF,
That Sabrina from the 1980’s could have fed a creche with what she was packing up top and also the ERF nickname came from a similar built girl from the 60’s I believe, never heard a Foden called Sabrina either? Cheer’s Pete
While we’re in the midst of a digression MM , Sabrina n three penny BMC were the only lorry nicknames I recall, there must have been more surely
[zb]
anorak:Bewick:
…this “Valkyrie” geezer sounds like a MK2 “CF” to me … Cheers Dennis.To help occasional readers of this site, I think we need a thread which puts all the nutters in rank order, so people can put their rantings into the correct context. The curator of this list needs to be a proven down-to-earth character, who can spot a maniac at 30 paces. I nominate your good self for this important task, Mr. B.
PS I expect to be somewhere in the top ten.
The only way to find the lunatic is to find out who’s running the asylum!