Fixed penalties for satnavs?

Pat Hasler:
Judging by the road atlas next to it I’d say you don’t trust the sat nav :slight_smile:

SatNav doesn’t show the farms and tracks I am delivering too. SatNav will take me to the postcode area which is sometimes good enough, othertimes not.

Just get one of these gbdriver.co.uk/index.php?mai … cts_id=446

repton:

tallyman:
If you went for an MOT test with the satnav like that then it would fail

I disagree, that’s pretty much exactly where I have mine and it has passed the last two MOTs with it in place. It might technically be a fail but it seems the testers (where I go at least) exercise some discretion and common sense.

Paul

Ah, COMMON SENSE, I remember that from the old days, there used to be lots of it everywhere you went… I’ve looked in all the supermarkets and shops and even tried that EE BAY ECK thingy tinterweb wotsit, but i just can’t find any. Does anyone know where i can get some ?

I have a little Satnav

It sits there in my car

A Satnav is a driver’s friend

It tells you where you are

I have a little Satnav

I’ve had it all my life

It does more than the normal one

My Satnav is my wife

It gives me full instructions

On exactly how to drive

“It’s thirty miles an hour” it says

“And you’re doing thirty five” :unamused:

It tells me when to stop and start

And when to use the brake

And tells me that it’s never ever

Safe to overtake :arrow_right:

It tells me when a light is red

And when it goes to green

It seems to know instinctively

Just when to intervene :unamused:

It lists the vehicles just in front

It lists those to the rear

And taking this into account

It specifies my gear

I’m sure no other driver

Has so helpful a device

For when we leave and lock the car

It still gives its advice :frowning:

It fills me up with counselling

Each journey’s pretty fraught

So why don’t I exchange it

And get a quieter sort?

Ah well, you see, it cleans the house

Makes sure I’m properly fed

It washes all my shirts and things

And - keeps me warm in bed! :wink:

presses like button ^^^^

richmond:
We have had a pg9 for a table blocking the view, if you want i can scan it and post it here.to prove it, [zb] unbeleviable i know, vosa are getting well carried away with there own importance, pg9 put on, then lifted one minute later, whats the bloody point?

The point is that the rules are liad down in the MOT inspection handbook.

The screen is split into 3 areas.

Area A is a 350mm wide section directly in front of the driver. ANY item in that area is an MOT fail and therefore roadside prohibition.

Area B is the SWEPT AREA - the bit the wipers wipe. Anything encroaching into this area by 40mm or more - MOT fail therefore roadside prohibition

Area C - rest of the windscreen and you can stick things in that area.

If VOSA see an item in Area A or B they will ordinarily issue a prohibition. At the same time ask you to remove said item. Once removed they will lift the prohibition. meanwhile the prohibition has been issued - even if you removed the item 10 seconds later - they had still see it. The PG9/GV9 will be placed against the operators O Licence and onto their OCRS score. The Operator will receive a copy of the GV9/PG9 in the post and probably be most ■■■■■■ off at the driver for getting them a prohibition and points on the OCRS

VOSA know - if they just tell the driver to remove whatever it is - 10 minutes after he leaves the check point it’ll be put back. if they issue VOSA paperwork and make sure the driver knows the boss will be told - may think twice.

The VOSA guy may also sit in the drivers seat and decide whether an object OBSCURES THE DRIVERS VIEW. If an item is OEM not a problem. If it was fitted afterwards - MOT fail. items such as BLINDS and DRIVER AIDS are OK. A row of tassles across the top of the screen may be considered a drivers aid (blind).

The actual rules are all in the MOT manual. it’s in black and white. You either obey the rules - or break them. No middle ground