Expected Salary C+E tramper

Quinny:

Gardinerlogistics:
Hello gentlemen

I am currently a single vehicle green light operator OF2021088 and I’m soon applying for a major change to my operators license to 5 vehicles and 7 trailers once we have moved in January.

May I kindly ask some drivers what you would expect to earn as a salary or hourly rate? Based on being a tramper driver Mon-Friday working out from Boston-Lincolnshire on general haulage, approx 56 hours per week, trucks will be Euro 6 Daf XF’s 65 plate or newer.

I was thinking 38k per year paye?

£25 per night out? With parking and meal?

Any constructive advice would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance

Our driver are on roughly that for around 60 hours per week, give or take.

Ken.

Thank you for that Ken

Acorn:
So when are the vacancies likely to happen or time to look out for them?

Our house sale in Bedfordshire and new purchase in Amber Hill are with the solicitors, they are hoping for a exchange date in the 1st or 2nd week in January, so all being well with providing the TC allowing major change on a interim basis I would imagine middle Feb.

Quinny:

Wrightrunner:
It’s a shame you’re not in Norwich, I’d bite your hand off if you took new pass drivers

If your tramping, it doesnt really matter as you only use your car twice a week.

Ken.

Good point, I think Boston is approx 1.5 hours from me, so not too bad

Wrightrunner:

Quinny:

Wrightrunner:
It’s a shame you’re not in Norwich, I’d bite your hand off if you took new pass drivers

If your tramping, it doesnt really matter as you only use your car twice a week.

Ken.

Good point, I think Boston is approx 1.5 hours from me, so not too bad

If you have or buy a car thats good on juice, then it is a no brainer, however do the maths with the time it would take you if you were a day driver. People look at the fact it’s so far away, but don’t take the above into consideration.

Ken.

Wrightrunner:
It’s a shame you’re not in Norwich, I’d bite your hand off if you took new pass drivers

Myself personally wouldn’t be that concerned with a new pass driver, with a good attitude, providing you had some transport experience ie driving a van etc however I believe the insurance underwriters have a clause with “any driver” policies stating driver must have held relevant for 24 months etc.

Good luck Wrightrunner, hope you have some work for the build up to Christmas mate-I will update this thread next year once the ball is rolling.

peirre:
Remember that it’s Lincolnshire where the local average wage is well down on the national average. I’m all for pitching a pay rate well above the local going rate which iirc is £30-£32k, but pitching a sky high rate seems crazy,

Sky high rate lol…plenty of companies from outside of that area manage to pay it so there’s no reason they can’t other than the fact they’re taking opportunistic advantage of gullible muppets like you.

Sad to see a driver using that old tired excuse of “well the wages are low because it’s X, Y or Z and that’s how it is” you often hear. The companies paying those rates are doing work for clients from all over the UK and businesses in their area are using haulage companies from all over the UK so sorry but that reason doesn’t wash and shame on you for excusing employers who use that. I’m from East Yorkshire, same bollox is spouted here, my lad drives for a company on general from East Yorkshire and today is picking a load up from Southampton. You can bet that the rate they’re getting won’t be one based on the fact the company is from East Yorkshire.

It’s saddening how many drivers are excusing low pay and even saying that is what they should be paying. And then the same people are there whining about how the job pays crap - well it will if people like you just shrug your shoulders, say that’s the way it is and accept it. I refuse to, every year I decide what the minimum I’ll work for is and I’ll refuse to work for less than that. And every year I still manage to get plenty of work. I refused to work for less than £10/hr TEN YEARS AGO even though I’m in an equally poor paying East Yorkshire/Hull area and I never have since and I’ve had all the work I’ve wanted to do.

Companies pay low rate and they can’t cherry pick, they get chumps who wreck everything and drive the motor like they stole it, equals high accident rate and general damage bills through the roof, fuel consumption dire plus heavy wear and tear on the vehicle.

Good luck to you mate, there has to be a better way than this race to the bottom most of the industry has been in for a long time now.
I bet your PM inbox is filling up fast :wink:

To this day there are adverts for class 2 jobs being advertised at just over £9 and 7.5 tonne jobs being advertised at minimum wage. Who takes these jobs? I can only come to the conclusion that the person who decided the rates / wrote the adverts must be one sandwich short of a picnic. Why would you use your entitlement when you can drive a van for more? The world is a crazy place and the lunatics are out there and growing in numbers, or so it seems anyway.

Gardinerlogistics:

Wrightrunner:
It’s a shame you’re not in Norwich, I’d bite your hand off if you took new pass drivers

Myself personally wouldn’t be that concerned with a new pass driver, with a good attitude, providing you had some transport experience ie driving a van etc however I believe the insurance underwriters have a clause with “any driver” policies stating driver must have held relevant for 24 months etc.

Good luck Wrightrunner, hope you have some work for the build up to Christmas mate-I will update this thread next year once the ball is rolling.

Thank you, I’m still working so it’s not all bad. I’ve heard about the insurance clause which is a shame. Hopefully we can chat soon.

I’m another that can’t believe that some are saying this bloke’s paying too much! He’s offering decent money for a responsible and sensible bloke/lass behind the wheel. Someone that looks after the motor etc. :unamused:

peterm:
I’m another that can’t believe that some are saying this bloke’s paying too much! He’s offering decent money for a responsible and sensible bloke/lass behind the wheel. Someone that looks after the motor etc. :unamused:

This is the thing mate. If you want to entice a good reliable driver that will show up ontime, does the job with no fuss and looks after the kit, then you need to entice him/her with an attractive salary. He or she will more than likley already be employed in a well payed job so to entice him over you got to lay out the honey.
Its then down to the employer to weed out the dross that applies.
Im about 45 mins drive away from him and I am earning about 4k more than what he is offering, but then im in a specialised job. To tempt the likes of me who fits the above criteria back into general haulage then you gotta pay the correct wage.

Conor:

peirre:
Remember that it’s Lincolnshire where the local average wage is well down on the national average. I’m all for pitching a pay rate well above the local going rate which iirc is £30-£32k, but pitching a sky high rate seems crazy,

Sky high rate lol…plenty of companies from outside of that area manage to pay it so there’s no reason they can’t other than the fact they’re taking opportunistic advantage of gullible muppets like you.

Sad to see a driver using that old tired excuse of “well the wages are low because it’s X, Y or Z and that’s how it is” you often hear. The companies paying those rates are doing work for clients from all over the UK and businesses in their area are using haulage companies from all over the UK so sorry but that reason doesn’t wash and shame on you for excusing employers who use that. I’m from East Yorkshire, same bollox is spouted here, my lad drives for a company on general from East Yorkshire and today is picking a load up from Southampton. You can bet that the rate they’re getting won’t be one based on the fact the company is from East Yorkshire.

It’s saddening how many drivers are excusing low pay and even saying that is what they should be paying. And then the same people are there whining about how the job pays crap - well it will if people like you just shrug your shoulders, say that’s the way it is and accept it. I refuse to, every year I decide what the minimum I’ll work for is and I’ll refuse to work for less than that. And every year I still manage to get plenty of work. I refused to work for less than £10/hr TEN YEARS AGO even though I’m in an equally poor paying East Yorkshire/Hull area and I never have since and I’ve had all the work I’ve wanted to do.

Got to agree, hauliers are like farmers, they are always pleading poverty,.but with these big firms, have a look around the staff car park, and look in the office at all the ones in parasitic ‘non jobs’, ‘compliance’ this, and ‘project development’ that, all this stuff could be done as other duties among the too many ‘planners’ in these offices, :unamused: saving thousands per year, as all this stuff has to be paid for out of the profits.
They always have a good reason at hand to pay poor wages to drivers, and if drivers are daft enough to believe them, and worse accept those reasons as fact, then things will never improve.

I live in an area that personifies crap money for drivers, up to 10 years ago all my jobs were out based out of my area , foreign and a SE firm, with my truck based at home, all on comparatively good money, and t.s and c.s.
Those jobs are few and far between nowadays, so I’m just like everybody else, having to ■■■■ it up,.as things are never going to improve with collective driver’s attitudes.
I don’t work for a ‘good’ firm as such, more the best of a bad bunch, but I enjoy the type of work, the money works out around 11 quid, not great, but better than some others,.and about the same I was on about 12 yrs ago :unamused: ,which on reflection says everything about this industry.
I suppose apathy has finally set in, and I’ve just settled for it…There, I’ve .finally admitted it to myself :open_mouth: :laughing:

If this guy is prepared to pay good money, and look after his drivers, he’ll reap what he sows…
just as the crappy firms do, but in a very different way. :bulb:

msgyorkie:
I cant believe there are drivers posting that the rate is too high!!
Mate, pay top dollar and you will attract the better drivers. Pay £10.50 an hour then all you will attract are the Mr Ski’s who will do more damage than good.

I am now late 50’s so in no way a snowflake but can I just say this post offends me. My name is pronounced Ski (spelled differently) and I doubt the poster has any idea about my damage to good ratio!

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Munchkin:

msgyorkie:
I cant believe there are drivers posting that the rate is too high!!
Mate, pay top dollar and you will attract the better drivers. Pay £10.50 an hour then all you will attract are the Mr Ski’s who will do more damage than good.

I am now late 50’s so in no way a snowflake but can I just say this post offends me. My name is pronounced Ski (spelled differently) and I doubt the poster has any idea about my damage to good ratio!

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Oh dear you melt.
My pronunciation is as Mr Sky so you can unoffend yourself

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Oh dear you melt.
My pronunciation is as Mr Sky so you can unoffend yourself

I don’t suppose anyone has bothered to ask what specific work this prospective employer is doing? Is it fridges, cans, general haulage of some super lucrative niche market? Because Boston isn’t well known for specialist haulage, but it must be something special for the guy to sell a house and move lock, stock and barrel to Boston

peirre:
but it must be something special for the guy to sell a house and move lock, stock and barrel to Boston

The difference in the price of property could be enough on it’s own.

£500k gets you a nothing special 2/3 bed semi in the counties surrounding London, that same house costing £150k in Boston. If you’ve paid off the mortgage that leaves you a lot of wedge in your pocket to put into a new business.

If I had £500k I certainly wouldn’t be investing it in a haulage business

peirre:
I don’t suppose anyone has bothered to ask what specific work this prospective employer is doing? Is it fridges, cans, general haulage of some super lucrative niche market? Because Boston isn’t well known for specialist haulage, but it must be something special for the guy to sell a house and move lock, stock and barrel to Boston

Amber Hill though? Absolute middle of nowhere with on the end of a no through road. It’ll cost a gallon of diesel each way just to get to the main road