robroy:
To offend you maybe even more…it will maybe make others think twice about entering our country illegally, purely for economic purposes, after passing through numerous others…but there you go, fill yer boots with offence.
Ah yes 
desperate people wanting a better life deserve to die for wanting to better themselves 
Winseer:
The worst part of all this - is that the Government STILL does not enforce any kind of deportation for illegal immigration, nor the attempts, nor the french authorities that aid and abet them - ALL potential criminals IF only our so-called Right Wing Home secretary started to do what it said on the tin FFS…If these people were sent straight back, rather than given asylum - then less people would take the risk and make the trip, which costs them most of their life savings, and of course all-too-often - their very lives into the bargain…
We need to make Britian an UNDESIRABLE place for migrants to want to come to then.
IR35 is just the first stitch in a greater fabric here, BUT it is all taking too long to be of good effect in our lifetimes, I fear…If only Remainers (Non-Patriots) Greenies (Borderline Terrorists by this point) and Lefties (care more for unknown foreigners than for UK-born Taxpayers) could get to grips, and speed Brexit along so we can get past all the downsides of the upheaval, and reap that Brexit Dividend - or do we really have to boot the whole lot of 'em out at Westminster to get that far?
It seems the whole of westminster is now bent on demonstrating to us all that even something supposedly done and dusted, can still be broken, and then rolled back because the public are going “Please no more economic suffering. We’ll shut up about Brexit if you immediately drop prices back down again!”.Trust me - Westminster - has already lost control of the monster they’ve created here.
It isn’t Hyperinflation we should fear (Germany got that 100 years ago, NOT Britain) - it is the deflationary slump and mass unemployment that comes AFTER that.100 years ago - Labour took over from the Liberals as the major opposition to the Tories at Westminster.
Perhaps now - it is time for a 4th party to take over from the Tories…?We won’t see Labour out of opposition again - until they once again continue the “Tory Lite” experiment that was New Labour over two decades ago.
Boris - continues to throw the Tory Future away by shifting so far left that he’s more woke than Keir Starmer by this point.
Do people like Angela Raynor really have the backing of the traditional Labour voter, or is she just a part of the ongoing China-serving, Anti-Semitic Far Left problem that’ll keep Labour out of power indefinitely, when we actually NEED a powerful opposition right now, in the face of a fading-fast Tory government - exactly where we were THREE decades ago…
This is the 2nd load of bile I’ve seen posted by you tonight, maybe time you stopped listening and reading right wing billionaire owned media outlets and open your mind, simpleton
dozy:
alamcculloch:
I wish that the Media would stop referring to the boat people as Migrants, they are an illegal occupying force. The Australian Government had a similar problem and made it clear that no one would settle in Australia after trying to enter illegally. There are many thousands of yachts in Southern England that could be used to patrol our Marine BordersWe know which way you voted in the referendum
You’re happy for uncontrolled immigration, even if those people are the extreme undesirables of their respective countries hence they need to get here illegally at ten times the cost of legal entry?
must have taken a lotta bottle to do the next run after that one. maybe used a different port . thing is you just know somebody will be doing it as we speak. if the figures of 70k sneaking in each year thats over a thou each week. even if not all came in a truck surely 30 truckloads each week on week
ClassOneHD:
robroy:
To offend you maybe even more…it will maybe make others think twice about entering our country illegally, purely for economic purposes, after passing through numerous others…but there you go, fill yer boots with offence.Ah yes
Seriously??
FFS !! 
Nice one, DELIBERATELY misinterpret what I have said to make a point that is totally invalid abd irrelevant to mine.
Where tf did I say or imply they deserved to die exactly??
Tell you what mate, …Have a day off from making a ■■■■ of yourself for Christ’s sake.
Did not think I’d have to clarify it for the hard of thinking…but here goes .
At what point will it not make other people think more carefully or twice about doing the same…it sure as hell would me.
Am I wrong in saying they wanted to come for economic reasons?
It was stated proven on the tv show.
Did they not pass through numerous other countries to get here?
Obviously.
No,.I’ve re’checked it, still no sign of me saying they ‘‘Deserved to die’’
both of the families that were interviewed in the tv program said they had gone to another country first but couldnt find work. I think the one with kids went to germany and the one whos mother borrowed 20k went to france. Onlyreason i repeat the only reason they were on that trailor was for work. Absoloutly nothing to do with escaping persicution or anything else
cooper1203:
both of the families that were interviewed in the tv program said they had gone to another country first but couldnt find work. I think the one with kids went to germany and the one whos mother borrowed 20k went to france. Onlyreason i repeat the only reason they were on that trailor was for work. Absoloutly nothing to do with escaping persicution or anything else
I know mate,.I watched it last night after that clown on here accused me of being callous to make some point or another.
(I note he aint replied with an APOLOGY yet btw 
)
When I posted my o/p I was only armed with half the info…same as everyone else.
I even thought the driver had innocentlly just picked up a trailer at the docks,.as I have numerous times,.and had just been caught up in all this, I now know that ain’t the case,.he was in it up to his neck…
(after saying that mind, just let’s say for a second he had been innocent ,.I thought the Old Bill were a bit heavy handed cuffing him, he hadn’t kicked off, he looked distressed (■■■■ scared and regretting what he had done more like) …So what happened to …'‘innocent until proven guilty’ ?)
Anyhow back to my post, I know it sounds like I am back pedaling on it…I ain’t!
So whatever the reasons, whatever the tragic outcome, they were economic migrants entering this country ILLEGALLY .
Now no doubt our mate will see this and read ‘‘They deserved to die’’ ffs , of course they ■■■■ didn’t, but they paid for an illegal act to criminals to service that act…they were hardly going to be treated as you are on a Thompsons package holiday, there was always going to be some element of risk or another, and they met up with the ultimate one.
robroy:
cooper1203:
both of the families that were interviewed in the tv program said they had gone to another country first but couldnt find work. I think the one with kids went to germany and the one whos mother borrowed 20k went to france. Onlyreason i repeat the only reason they were on that trailor was for work. Absoloutly nothing to do with escaping persicution or anything elseI know mate,.I watched it last night after that clown on here accused me of being callous to make some point or another.
(I note he aint replied with an APOLOGY yet btwWhen I posted my o/p I was only armed with half the info…same as everyone else.
I even thought the driver had innocentlly just picked up a trailer at the docks,.as I have numerous times,.and had just been caught up in all this, I now know that ain’t the case,.he was in it up to his neck…
(after saying that mind, just let’s say for a second he had been innocent ,.I thought the Old Bill were a bit heavy handed cuffing him, he hadn’t kicked off, he looked distressed ([zb] scared and regretting what he had done more like) …So what happened to …'‘innocent until proven guilty’ ?)Anyhow back to my post, I know it sounds like I am back pedaling on it…I ain’t!
Add to which the fact that they are entering illegally means that they will be working illegally to pay of the trafficing debt, the women in nail bars by day and brothels by night and the men either skivying in restuarants or cannabis farms.
So whatever the reasons, whatever the tragic outcome, they were economic migrants entering this country ILLEGALLY
Now no doubt our mate will see this and read ‘‘They deserved to die’’ ffs
Mazzer2:
Add to which the fact that they are entering illegally means that they will be working illegally to pay of the trafficing debt, the women in nail bars by day and brothels by night and the men either skivying in restuarants or cannabis farms.
Ftfy
In the programme it said the fare was paid by their families selling assets and getting loans.
I’m not sure if that particular little firm had anything to do with following up ‘‘empolyment’’ for these people to pay off further debts, but seeing as there was an EE connection, it could well have been the case.
You’re right in respect that young girls come over expecting legitimate type work and end up in the ■■■ industry because of these EE pond life …with no escape from it.
A harrowing thought when you have daughters yourself. 
corij:
few yrs back i was in the habit of washing my car early Sunday mornings before 9am , along the street a taxi used to arrive and a couple of asians id never before seen would quickly come out from a nearby takeaway with huge black suitcases and off they would go. Whether this was part of a chain of smuggling who knows but when i thought about it it must be a constant flow like any other goods
I lived next door to a village convenience store, open 8am till 10pm every day. I worked away for weeks and months at a time so missed a lot of the action, but every time I went in their was someone new stacking shelves and cleaning, the family who owned the shop described them as uncles or cousins. I often used to hear late deliveries at night, but just thought it was their supply chain for under the counter ■■■■ etc.
Imagine my surprise one night when we were still in the pub, the road was blocked both ways and the shop raided by immigration, police, customs and no doubt well armed terrorist officers. They arrested thirteen people who were living in an attic room.
robroy:
Mazzer2:
Add to which the fact that they are entering illegally means that they will be working illegally to pay of the trafficing debt, the women in nail bars by day and brothels by night and the men either skivying in restuarants or cannabis farms.Ftfy
In the programme it said the fare was paid by their families selling assets and getting loans.
I’m not sure if that particular little firm had anything to do with following up ‘‘empolyment’’ for these people to pay off further debts, but seeing as there was an EE connection, it could well have been the case.
You’re right in respect that young girls come over expecting legitimate type work and end up in the ■■■ industry because of these EE pond life …with no escape from it.
A harrowing thought when you have daughters yourself.
Thanks, I know that one of the people arrested and convicted who wasn’t named in the programme his wife was involved with nail bars and beauty salons so quite possible a link there
weeto:
At the end of the documentary of “hunting the Essex lorry killers” it claims “the police are now working with the haulage industry to implement safety changes to prevent future deaths” any ideas how?
What struck me was why was the trailer not searched on departure from Zeebrugge. Or is it only in France the trailers are searched? Thought the authorities got given a very easy ride there.
They died about the time they entered the Thames Estuary.
Sand Fisher:
weeto:
At the end of the documentary of “hunting the Essex lorry killers” it claims “the police are now working with the haulage industry to implement safety changes to prevent future deaths” any ideas how?What struck me was why was the trailer not searched on departure from Zeebrugge. Or is it only in France the trailers are searched? Thought the authorities got given a very easy ride there.
They died about the time they entered the Thames Estuary.
Trailers were supposed to be searched more thoroughly after one was shipped through Zeebrugge in 2014 with imigrants in and one died obviously stopped doing it hence the use of that port
robroy:
ClassOneHD:
robroy:
To offend you maybe even more…it will maybe make others think twice about entering our country illegally, purely for economic purposes, after passing through numerous others…but there you go, fill yer boots with offence.Ah yes
Seriously??
FFS !!Nice one, DELIBERATELY misinterpret what I have said to make a point that is totally invalid abd irrelevant to mine.
Where tf did I say or imply they deserved to die exactly??Tell you what mate, …Have a day off from making a ■■■■ of yourself for Christ’s sake.
Did not think I’d have to clarify it for the hard of thinking…but here goes .
At what point will it not make other people think more carefully or twice about doing the same…it sure as hell would me.
Am I wrong in saying they wanted to come for economic reasons?
It was stated proven on the tv show.Did they not pass through numerous other countries to get here?
Obviously.No,.I’ve re’checked it, still no sign of me saying they ‘‘Deserved to die’’
You know full well what your comment was supposed to read like, I just pointed it out in the words you want to say.
Why does it matter if they want to come here for economic reasons? Lots of these people end up working in jobs that most brits won’t or don’t do - with the exceptions that some vulnerable ones are taken advantage of.
I’ve also just read where you (surprisingly ) claim entering illegally, except that term is only applicable when your asylum application is processed, but again, not sure you’d understand that with such narrow views and opinions
ClassOneHD:
robroy:
ClassOneHD:
robroy:
To offend you maybe even more…it will maybe make others think twice about entering our country illegally, purely for economic purposes, after passing through numerous others…but there you go, fill yer boots with offence.Ah yes
Seriously??
FFS !!Nice one, DELIBERATELY misinterpret what I have said to make a point that is totally invalid abd irrelevant to mine.
Where tf did I say or imply they deserved to die exactly??Tell you what mate, …Have a day off from making a ■■■■ of yourself for Christ’s sake.
Did not think I’d have to clarify it for the hard of thinking…but here goes .
At what point will it not make other people think more carefully or twice about doing the same…it sure as hell would me.
Am I wrong in saying they wanted to come for economic reasons?
It was stated proven on the tv show.Did they not pass through numerous other countries to get here?
Obviously.No,.I’ve re’checked it, still no sign of me saying they ‘‘Deserved to die’’
You know full well what your comment was supposed to read like, I just pointed it out in the words you want to say.
Why does it matter if they want to come here for economic reasons? Lots of these people end up working in jobs that most brits won’t or don’t do - with the exceptions that some vulnerable ones are taken advantage of.
I’ve also just read where you (surprisingly
It matters because the method they are using to enter the country is illegal funds criminality and once in the country they will work in the black economy open to further exploitation whilst contributing nothing in taxes etc, There is a legal process for entering that doesn’t involve paying thousands to criminals if you fit the criteria all well and good if you don’t well that’s life. The people in this programme were not fleeing persecution or war if they wanted a better life there was nothing stopping them improving their life in Vietnam.
ClassOneHD:
You know full well what your comment was supposed to read like, I just pointed it out in the words you want to say.
:
You are ■■■■ unreal mate.
I am quite capable of expressing myself and saying what I want to say thank you, without resorting to any form of implication for the likes of you to (MIS) interpret.
Also I have never been afraid of speaking my mind either on here or in real life. no matter how controversial or unpopular my opinion may or not be.
So you may think you are some kind of amateur psychologist, but trust me mate…you ain’t.
Unbelievable.
MAZZER…you ain’t saying they deserved to die are you■■?
You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
robroy:
MAZZER…you ain’t saying they deserved to die are you■■?
You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Honestly no rationale with some people 
I like the bit about doing jobs the Brits won’t, well call me old fashioned but I don’t think I’ll be too disappointed that my son doesn’t end up working on a cannabis farm or my daughter doesn’t choose being an exploited ■■■ worker as a career option
Mazzer2:
robroy:
MAZZER…you ain’t saying they deserved to die are you■■?
You ought to be ashamed of yourself.Honestly no rationale with some people
I like the bit about doing jobs the Brits won’t, well call me old fashioned but I don’t think I’ll be too disappointed that my son doesn’t end up working on a cannabis farm or my daughter doesn’t choose being an exploited ■■■ worker as a career option
Yep he didn’t think that one through did he.
Too busy keeping me right,.and telling me what I REALLY meant.
Got to add btw…Just noticed in my 1st post on this way back in January, my first words were ‘No sympathy for any of them’'.
This was put down before any details came out, I just assumed it was the usual crew,…ie .all fighting age young males, Iraqi, Afghan, or Somali, many of which in the past that have been proven to be ex ISIS, and a few who gave gone on to abuse our hospitality by terrorist activities,.I have no time for that type of pond life…end of.
Since finding out that in this case many of them were innocent young girls similar ages to my daughter, and young men with young families, maybe that initial statement was untrue on reflection.
However as I said, it will definitely make others think twice about paying these criminals to come over, so maybe a small positive comes out of a tragic negative at the very least, no more deaths, criminal firms shutting down,.and our country devoid of illegals.
(Cant wait for our amateur psychologist’s interpretation of that one, )
Mazzer2:
Thanks, I know that one of the people arrested and convicted who wasn’t named in the programme his wife was involved with nail bars and beauty salons so quite possible a link there
wernt they related to the driver some how somthing like aunt and they owned the trailer that buggerlugs bought off them
