ERF-NGC-European:
robthedog:
.Aye-up Rob! What side is that steering wheel?
Looking from the front it’s on the left LOL
ERF-NGC-European:
robthedog:
.Aye-up Rob! What side is that steering wheel?
Looking from the front it’s on the left LOL
michel:
Bruxelles in 1969.
That’s the 3MW cab. This was ERF’s first serious foray into the Continental market place. Here is the spec:
ERF-NGC-European:
michel:
Bruxelles in 1969.That’s the 3MW cab. This was ERF’s first serious foray into the Continental market place. Here is the spec:
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That spec sheet seems to suggest a logical view of where domestic legislation would go/have gone closer to the typical Anglo US/Aus/NZ model ?.
As opposed to the typical 4x2 Euro model contained later in the NGC.
Carryfast:
ERF-NGC-European:
michel:
Bruxelles in 1969.That’s the 3MW cab. This was ERF’s first serious foray into the Continental market place. Here is the spec:
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That spec sheet seems to suggest a logical view of where domestic legislation would go/have gone closer to the typical Anglo US/Aus/NZ model ?.
As opposed to the typical 4x2 Euro model contained later in the NGC.
Not really, CF: it was a tipper!
ERF-NGC-European:
Carryfast:
ERF-NGC-European:
michel:
Bruxelles in 1969.That’s the 3MW cab. This was ERF’s first serious foray into the Continental market place. Here is the spec:
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That spec sheet seems to suggest a logical view of where domestic legislation would go/have gone closer to the typical Anglo US/Aus/NZ model ?.
As opposed to the typical 4x2 Euro model contained later in the NGC.Not really, CF: it was a tipper!
Deffo says it’s ‘meant’ to be a tractor not a tipper.
Again not true…the chassis was in ready for more or less a tipper but was sold as a tractor!!!
Bear in mind that this configuration was suitable for tippers and tar-sprayers but eventually also a tractor!
ERF-Continental:
Again not true…the chassis was in ready for more or less a tipper but was sold as a tractor!!!
That’s interesting.
I’ve just checked all my other references to that picture (that truck) and they refer to it as a tractor, as you say. But for a long time we’ve believed it to be a tipper.
So Wobbe must have led us astray with his REVS article in which he described it as a tipper! He must have had reasons for thinking it was a tipper.
Also, further up this page, it’s referred to as a tipper.
It is also referred to as a tipper in this article (this time NOT by Wobbe).
From the previous page ^^^: my guess is that we’re looking at several different individual chassis here, all of which were exhibited at some time by ERF during 1969 / 70; but journalists have only been given a couple of press photos to work with and thus, to us, those chassis have been conflated into a single item.
It’s not about WHO was (eventually) right but the chassis exported to CDB was actualy a tipper (6x4) and without extra body-features.
The final user was so excited about the specifications (and had combinations of perhaps other trailers in mind) bought this chassis with
fenders at the rear and possibly other extra’s…in fact (as by my shared spec-leaflet) it was a tractor and tipper and for what it could
have been sold by then…as CDB had an extensive workshop (remember the assembly of 25 3-5MW-chassis out of CKD-crates) to benefit
and meet customer’s requirements.
ERF-Continental:
It’s not about WHO was (eventually) right
Did anyone actually suggest that it was?
Buzzer
The idea that Andre Lecoq acquired the 3MW tipper chassis and repurposed it as a 6x4 tractor unit makes some sense. If we go back to ERF’s research in the archives, we know that Lecoq’s unit had Cummins NHK x220 engine with a Fuller RT 915 'box. That spec could just as easily be for a heavy-duty tipper as an artic unit, especially if during the conversion Lecoq had CDB exchange the (possibly) 9-speed 'box for a 15-speed one. We know that CDB undertook that kind of work from evidence of the Eyckmans NGC, which was given a 13-sp 'box and a double-drive back end!
Taking A-J’s research to heart, we might rewrite its history as follows:
The Andre Lecoq LHD 6x4 3MW
It now appears that this was a bit of a one-off! The chassis / cab was demonstrated at the motor show in 1969, having been delivered to CDB in Brussels as a ‘completely knocked-down kit’.
It was supposed to be a 26-tonne tipper. However, Lecoq had it repurposed as a 6x4 tractive unit, as shown above. ‘ERF’ earlier in the thread, trawled the archives and found that the chassis (No. 17099) was supplied to Lecoq with a Cummins NHK X220 engine (No. 7W21469), a Fuller RT 915 gearbox (No. 45267) and a rear axle ratio of 5.65:1.
That’s a 7MW not a 5MW buzzer, but an interesting pic taken by Niels Jansen for an article in Truckstar mag in Holland.
I’me not an ERF man so bow to your superior knowledge, thanks Buzzer