bullitt:
robert1952:
it serves as a good reminder of the practice of keeping the diesel from waxing with flames! Robert
0Great pic Robert, I wonder how many forgot to release the fuel filler cap from the tank though!!!
There’s always one in every class 
newmercman:
bullitt:
robert1952:
it serves as a good reminder of the practice of keeping the diesel from waxing with flames! Robert
0Great pic Robert, I wonder how many forgot to release the fuel filler cap from the tank though!!!
There’s always one in every class
And trying not to melt the plastic fuel lines…Robert 
robert1952:
newmercman:
bullitt:
robert1952:
it serves as a good reminder of the practice of keeping the diesel from waxing with flames! Robert
0Great pic Robert, I wonder how many forgot to release the fuel filler cap from the tank though!!!
There’s always one in every class
And trying not to melt the plastic fuel lines…Robert
Rightly or wrongly I would have left it running. With about 80% return of hot fuel to the tank I’m guessing the diesel would run freely( and just top up in Syria for 2p/ltr).
Just a guess, never driven there.
colinwallace1:
robert1952:
newmercman:
bullitt:
robert1952:
it serves as a good reminder of the practice of keeping the diesel from waxing with flames! Robert
0Great pic Robert, I wonder how many forgot to release the fuel filler cap from the tank though!!!
There’s always one in every class
And trying not to melt the plastic fuel lines…Robert
Rightly or wrongly I would have left it running. With about 80% return of hot fuel to the tank I’m guessing the diesel would run freely( and just top up in Syria for 2p/ltr).
Just a guess, never driven there.
I did that with a Scania 112 going to Turkey in winter. The only problem was with those older lorries, the cab used to fill up with acrid fumes if it was a still night. Robert
tiptop495:
Hey, where put it, but ■■■■■■■ engined…
So, Gruwez (Harry’s dream fleet, as A-J would have it) had some interesting wagons! Robert
Hi Robert
Just a few more pics from the Karachi trip , the khyber pass and a picture of a village that Pete went to in Pakistan somewhere where apparently they had not seen european trucks or people before
factoryaprilia:
Hi RobertJust a few more pics from the Karachi trip , the khyber pass and a picture of a village that Pete went to in Pakistan somewhere where apparently they had not seen european trucks or people before
Fantastic! And half the population of Pakistan, as seen through the driver’s door of an ERF NGC - priceless. Thanks for taking the trouble to post those, mate. Robert 
The company of Bertrand Gruwez at least had two ERF’s (NGC and B) but carried also a variety
of other CDB-products, White (both Road Commander and Road Expeditor) and Autocar. They
had two Autocar’s the one shown from about 1967 with ■■■■■■■ HRF-6 or NH220 and the later
version, with ‘thicker’ radiator had ■■■■■■■ NH220 or NH230 but both with Fuller RTO913. One
of the versions is still existing and recently restored by a Dutchman.
Don’t worry too much about ‘pollution’ A-J! It is fascinating how the ERF NGC fell among several extraordinary fleets with such a diversity of unusual lorries - think Van Steenbergen, Gruwez, Trans-Arabia etc. Those vehicles certainly learnt to ‘rub shoulders’ with some exotic gear! Robert
Their atmosphere of working horses, to earn a living and to satisfy consignor and consignee
had the good extra of being romantic as well, being proud on your truck in both terms of
presence and performance! The good old days…
A-J, you posted this picture on the White M/E thread and kindly drew our attention to the ERF NGC lurking in the shadows! However, you mentioned the tilt in this picture and it got me thinking: Van Steenbergen’s tilts at that time were very tidy, striking, trim trailers - nearly all classic tandem spread-axle examples of the period. Did they stick to a single manufacturer? Just thinking aloud, it would have made sense to use Belgian Van Hool trailers which were well made and being a bit on the heavy side usually sat on the road very well. Any ideas? Robert
@Robert…well observed …the majority of the trailers were from LAG of Bree and the ones
bought second hand from BAFMA were mainly Trailor, Netam-Fruehauf and van Hool indeed.
On their first premisses about 15-20 trailers were extra to do feeders to their biggest customers
with Germany as largest destination and origin for transport, before and after the transport
from and to the Antwerp-harbour or Zeebrugge with containers.
They also had some bulk-trailers, mainly Van Hool and a MOL
ERF-Continental:
@Robert…well observed …the majority of the trailers were from LAG of Bree and the ones
bought second hand from BAFMA were mainly Trailor, Netam-Fruehauf and van Hool indeed.On their first premisses about 15-20 trailers were extra to do feeders to their biggest customers
with Germany as largest destination and origin for transport, before and after the transport
from and to the Antwerp-harbour or Zeebrugge with containers.They also had some bulk-trailers, mainly Van Hool and a MOL
Thanks for that! I’ve pulled a few LAG trailers myself over the years. Van Steenbergen was certainly a visually inspiring fleet. It still is: I saw one in England quite recently! Robert
@Robert: I think it’s more likely you see the Q-trucking’s of Van Steenbergen and nowadays some
70% of the trailers is Kögel and 30% Renders.
I assume you’ll recognize the White (and other vehicles) from Holleman in Breda?
No,these were in Van Steenbergen’s traditional distinctive colours. Robert
The Mercedes-Actros 1840 livery origins from 1998 when abrupt Scania was out! Herewith a
picture of one of the first…since then some 400 followed…
