ERF 'European' (1975)

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Found this in numbums collection.

harry:
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Found this in numbums collection.

South Africa, Harry - that’s Afrikaans for big load on the bumper and its RHD. Robert

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Hiya…the middle bit looks very Big “J” with a bit stuck on the front…not very nice looking is she.i suppose she dose the job
thats the important bit.
John

harry:
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AND it has a day-cab! Mind you, it might have been more reliable than yours - you never know! :smiley:

You know,an ERF is like a beautiful woman. You have to know how to treat her,slip the gear in gently,don’t push too hard,& when there’s no-one about give her a belting,be firm & show her who’s boss… :laughing:

‘Flourpower’ has just posted a picture on the Scrapbook thread of JLG 35N that I’ve not seen before. It was an ERF demonstrator rather mysteriously spec’d up for Middle-East but I don’t know whatever became of it. I’ve reproduced it here, below (if you don’t mind, Flourpower) along with another picture of it from Pat Kennett’s ERF book. Robert :smiley:

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Good input, thx flourpower and robert…JLG35N and JLG34N were so called demonstrator-registrations?

On which occasion was the duo pictured?

ERF-Continental:
Good input, thx flourpower and robert…JLG35N and JLG34N were so called demonstrator-registrations?

On which occasion was the duo pictured?

Oh yes! I hadn’t noticed that the registration numbers were consecutive. Nor had I noticed that the dumper had LHD. The cutting looks as if it had been in one of the truck magazines, like most of the Scrapbook thread items. It probably had a caption underneath that has been cut off. That got me thinking about the Commercial Motor archives and I googled 1974/5 (N-reg), but didn’t come up with anything. Perhaps it was in one of the other mags. I expect someone will find it eventually.

Never mind, while I was looking at CM archives I found a page about the 1973 debut of the NGC. I can’t remember if any of us have put it on here before, but here it is:

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If you can’t read it, it says:’

3ritish star of the Brussels Show {January 281 will undoubtedly be ER F’s latest sion of its European 38-ton-gcw truck.
3 examples Will be shown, a 3.10-metre ft 2in.) wheelbase tractive unit and a 0-metre (15ft 9in.) wheelbase two-axle d.
-he cab now tilts hydraulically and has
considerably improved visually by the rption of a one-piece screen and a grille ng a much cleaner and more striking learance. Structurally, the cab roof panel been completely redesigned and is now one piece and deep enough to provide ‘age for the top bunk when it is not in use. iree-way opening roof vent and a separate ;h air system with eyeball outlets at roof’ ;I have also been incorporated. The whole sits some 6in. higher on the chassis to 4 ample wheel arch clearance over 12.00 tion tyres. The driver’s task is made easier by the big screen with three wipers ;and washers) and greatly improved minor switch controls. Lights, winkers, wipers and washers are now controlled from a combined steering column unit.
Chassis and suspension specifications remain virtually unchanged since the September 1972 Earls Court Show debut but the air filter system has been improved by the fitment of twin Farr filters.
■■■■■■■ NTC 335 engines power the Brussels Show models but, the smaller ■■■■■■■ NTC 290 and NM 240 units, as well as the Gardener BIM, are available. Any of these smaller 1240 and 290 bhp!) engines would give the ERF excellent performance at 32 tons gcw for British operators.
ERF can cope with, and is expecting orders from, British operators for this model to run at about five vehicles a week initially.
The 14.0-litre ■■■■■■■ NTC 335 engine can be rated between 270 and 420 bhp; the new ERFs use a 335 bhp at 2100 rpm and 930 lb ft torque at 1600 rpm version of the engine in conjunction with a Fuller 9509A nine-speed gearbox and a Kirkstall D85.13.2 13-tonne hub reduction axle.

Read more at commercial-motor.archive.netcopy … YmKrMh.99’

Interestingly, it mentions that ERF was expecting British operators to be ordering 5 vehicles a week in January 1973! Well, we all know that ERF then didn’t offer it to British operators for another two years. BUT we also know that the 5MW-cabbed version was available to British operators, and I wonder if this is just a bit of inaccurate reporting by CM, or whether ERF simply changed their mind. Robert :unamused:

robert1952:
I notice that the trail on this old girl seems to have gone very quiet. Does anyone know if it actually left its place in the French forests? Did the Dutchmen buy it in the end? Did they take it away? Have they started work on it? What are their plans for it? On this thread, we only have the fortunes of two preserved NGCs to follow. Robert :question:

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Unfortunately no further news on the R. Collin NGC, so I assume she is somewhere in a shed (perhaps leased by Harry to prevent it will be on the road) or is
to be examinated for the restauration-job. Via ■■■■■■■ In Holland I have an ‘angle in the pond’ in case an overhaul of the NTC335 is actual, so fingers crossed!

ERF-Continental:

robert1952:
I notice that the trail on this old girl seems to have gone very quiet. Does anyone know if it actually left its place in the French forests? Did the Dutchmen buy it in the end? Did they take it away? Have they started work on it? What are their plans for it? On this thread, we only have the fortunes of two preserved NGCs to follow. Robert :question:

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Unfortunately no further news on the R. Collin NGC, so I assume she is somewhere in a shed (perhaps leased by Harry to prevent it will be on the road) or is
to be examinated for the restauration-job. Via ■■■■■■■ In Holland I have an ‘angle in the pond’ in case an overhaul of the NTC335 is actual, so fingers crossed!

Cheers A-J. Its restoration is certainly something to look forward to - and perhaps a ‘pilgrimage’ to De Nederlands to worship the re-born King of the Mountains! Robert :smiley:

I couldn’t resist popping this pic on here. ‘ERF-Continental’ posted it on another thread, drawing the readers’ attention to the ERFs lurking in the garage behind. Needless to say, one of them is a Van Steenbergen NGC. Cheers A-J for this! Robert :smiley:

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@Robert…I will check other pictures with possibly some ERF’s lurking …

Meanwhile I had contact with Rik Gruwez of Transports Gruwez of Bruges
and I hope he will help with more info on Harry’s dreamfleet …A-J

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ERF-Continental:
@Robert…I will check other pictures with possibly some ERF’s lurking …

Meanwhile I had contact with Rik Gruwez of Transports Gruwez of Bruges
and I hope he will help with more info on Harry’s dreamfleet …A-J

:laughing: Good luck with that! Robert :slight_smile:

Hey ERF, Not at home here but, a Belgian, registered in 1973, do you know it■■?
Found it on a French thread.

Bye Eric,

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Eric, wow a nice found!!! First I was thinking of Sogetra who had quite some Autocar’s and (perhaps)
also White’s Road Commander 1…I will verify the registration but no bells are ringing for the owner.

Thank you for searching and sharing! A-J

I assume you know how to find the validity of a Belgian registration? This link shows …

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ERF-Continental:
I assume you know how to find the validity of a Belgian registration? This link shows …

mobilit.fgov.be/WebdivPub/wm … ONID=54522

Hey ERF, It says the the number is canceled in 1999, but who has got it■■?
Maybe someone can ask it at the DIV but tink they will not give because of privacy■■? never done.
But the first letter A means 1973, but was the commander 1 still built than,or it must be re-used in '73.

Bye Eric,

Eric, I need to check the first production of the RC1 but I do know that Van Steenbergen bought both RC1 and RC2 in 1977,
I recall the RC2 was introduced around 1975 and so it was strange Van Steenbergen did not obtain two RC2-tractors.

robert1952:
A word about sun visors on my recently posted pics. The picture on the front of the REVS magazine of the maroon wrecker is the only photo I have showing it with a sun-visor. The sun-visor appears to be the factory version. I also notice that it is the only photo with it in full livery. The picture was taken by Adrian Cypher.

I’ve just noticed that the 7MW cab attached to ■■■■ Pountain’s hybrid machine has a non-standard sun-visor! Robert

Hello chaps! Somewhat unorthodoxly, I am quoting myself from an earlier post here. I’ve been looking more closely at ERF visors and I now realise that I was mistaken in thinking that the visor on the maroon-coloured wrecker was the standard issue and that the visor on UGE 852R was a variant. Wrong! It appears that this was not the case at all. The standard ERF visor, which appeared on nearly all ERF NGCs and on earlier ERF B-series is characterised by a shallow curve at the sides, as exemplified below:

Later B-series ERFs were given visors with a more upright side-piece, and some of these appear to have been mounted (probably retrospectively) on some ERF NGCs - for example PG Horridge’s unit and the maroon wrecker! As exemplified below:

Finally, I remind you that a third style of visor was prevalent among Dutch ERFs in the form of plastic transparent visors, as exemplified by the picture below:

Yours in constant pursuit of getting the ERF NGC right, Robert :smiley: