What about Suske and Wiske?
To be honest…I overheard the French NGC of R. Collin was purchased ‘commercial’ so a variety of persons might
start the restauration…but why we now doubt about the NTC335? The year of this ERF is 1975…
To be continued some day…
ERF-Continental:
What about Suske and Wiske?To be honest…I overheard the French NGC of R. Collin was purchased ‘commercial’ so a variety of persons might
start the restauration…but why we now doubt about the NTC335? The year of this ERF is 1975…To be continued some day…
Suske and Wiske would have to be there too! I reckon if it ends up in Steef Slappendel’s livery in Middle-East kit, that will satisfy both of us! Robert 
Talking of the Middle-East, I recently went on BMA-Finland’s fabulous ‘Drawings from Past to Future’ thread and reminded him of the lovely drawing he made of an ERF NGC, and asked if he might do a Middle-East version. Bennku, being the star that he is, produced this amazing drawing!
As I think I mentioned in a much earlier thread, I wonder what the fortunes of the NGC would have been, had Astran run a handful down to the Gulf for a few years. Robert 
Top drawing Bennku! Nice livery, 3-axles NGC! Woehoe!
To Robert: when you google Steef Slappendel …I think it is not a very good idea to take the “livery” of his NGC.
According to some research…he was not long active in trucking…perhaps an in between contact for sale? By
the way, I don’t mind and I agree that the owner decides, just as I did for my Alfa Romeo " Romeo 2* " of 1961.
A-J
Just a question…apparently there is not much to say or add on this thread or are you all waiting?
ERF-Continental:
Just a question…apparently there is not much to say or add on this thread or are you all waiting?
31 pages for one of the smallest production runs of a lorry is not bad going 
[quote="new
I more or less agree John…but the NGC420 was the real European of ERF of in fact
the initiator of all coming after…Volvo however is another cup of tea and had quite
other markets and volumes…
Those pics were from the Euro Test that TRUCK magazine conducted.
I agree with recent posts that remind us that we’ve squeezed a miraculous number of pages out of a single, rare ERF model with a short production run. We should accept the fallow times and be prepared to add something when we have something worthy to say. No point in topping a good thread up with drivel just to keep it at the top of the running list!
In fact, I’ve noticed that all the threads have gone relatively quiet over the last couple of weeks. There was even a short discussion about this on one thread, in which someone suggested that now that there are so many lorry blogs on Facebook, people are spending more time on those. Who knows?
In the meantime, here are pics of the two Loste vehicles that A-J found for us earlier on the thread. The 6x4 is a Pacific with an ERF 7MW cab; the 4x2 is an NGC. Robert
robert1952:
Those pics were from the Euro Test that TRUCK magazine conducted.I agree with recent posts that remind us that we’ve squeezed a miraculous number of pages out of a single, rare ERF model with a short production run. We should accept the fallow times and be prepared to add something when we have something worthy to say. No point in topping a good thread up with drivel just to keep it at the top of the running list!
In fact, I’ve noticed that all the threads have gone relatively quiet over the last couple of weeks. There was even a short discussion about this on one thread, in which someone suggested that now that there are so many lorry blogs on Facebook, people are spending more time on those. Who knows?
In the meantime, I’ll post when I have something. Robert
I agree that as you say there is no point in talking drivel 
. But personally I have a lot of magazines up in my loft that I haven’t looked at in years, I will slowly go through them as time allows & do as I often do & just post pictures, I & others on here have posted a picture & someone has recognised a wagon or a place etc & it has filled half a page with comments/memories/observations etc , it’s amazing how a long-dead thread can be kick-started by a single post . Regards Chris
Adr - I couldn’t agree more mate, we’ve done that many times on this thread: develop a whole page of comments out of one nugget of information or a pic!
A-J - are you sure the NGC started it all off, and not the MGC (5MW ‘European’)?
Robert
Well now, I didn’t expect to be back so soon with new information! However, Philippe in France has been in touch with me again with all sorts of info. Some useful and important items include the following:
Philippe says that the Preval unit has the registration number 2751W?? The last two digits are unreadable, but apparently the ‘W’ means that is was owned by a garage or distributor so it was almost certainly an ERF demonstrator.
Philippe reports that the R Collin vehicle has an NTC 290 and a Fuller 9513 'box (not NTC 335 as originally stated).
Philippe also reports that JF Colombet, writing about the history of Mabo in the Charge Utile magazine, states that no ERFs were distributed before 1974. Philippe believes that no NGCs were distributed via Mabo and that they all came through CDB in Belgium. (This may shed new light on the possible Thibaut tractor unit which Wobbe thought was a French demo unit. A-J has identified that the picture we have of it is parked in the CDB premises. But could it still have been a French demo after all?).
This gives us something new to go on; adjustments to be made to the register and minor alteration to the text of the book.
Cheers all! Robert
Maybe of interest to the ERF European gang this Automiesse with Stoelen sleeper cab was also in the fleet of Transit Liner (Belgium). This Miesse was equipped with a ■■■■■■■ (type ?) and used on the ASG run to Sweden.
mandator:
Maybe of interest to the ERF European gang
A nice link, Mandator. Not seen one of these, certainly not with that cab. All the sexier for its ASG pedigree! Robert
In the meantime I’ve been examining various pictures of Vijore’s NFH 120P (I think this one had been supplied by Richard Read because it ended up in his livery), and trying to decipher the Arabic scrawlings on the radiator grille. They appear simply to be the names of the Middle-East countries visited. Robert
I emailed Gervais Lumet for some clarification on the Préval Laiteries of Vire. I am quite confident that a demonstrator
(as Philippe states a “W” is in the registration) ‘belongs’ to the importer, Mabo being since 1974. Then the registration
could be 2751W92 as complete. Perhaps the sales-representatives of CDB were more succesful in getting the orders,
while Mabo was (only) focussing on their Mack-sales and relevant license!
ERF-Continental:
I emailed Gervais Lumet for some clarification on the Préval Laiteries of Vire. I am quite confident that a demonstrator
(as Philippe states a “W” is in the registration) ‘belongs’ to the importer, Mabo being since 1974. Then the registration
could be 2751W92 as complete. Perhaps the sales-representatives of CDB were more succesful in getting the orders,
while Mabo was (only) focussing on their Mack-sales and relevant license!
I think you are right, A-J, as Philippe mentioned that CDB were also supplying the Autocar and White trucks until that time. Robert
The ERF 5MW ‘European’ may have led the way for the British long-hauler on the Continent, but here’s a photographic reminder of the kind of British export vehicles running around in Belgium at about the time ERF originally entered the fray at the end of the '60s. Here are the LHD AECs, LHD Leylands, LHD Scammells, LHD Atkinsons and LHD Fodens of the moment. When you compare these with the ERF 5MW ‘European’ with its NTC 335, 9-speed Fuller, fully Europeanised braking, accelerating, riding and steering characteristics it’s a wonder the ERF didn’t do profoundly better. Back to the back-up argument again! Robert
Hey Robert, Don’t forget that it was the time when ERF came,that the british were withdrawing,and over and over again it was the time of the THREE (V S D ). And a lot of other things always…
From that Atki is only one sold which was here on the Brussels Expo. It had an RR 220.
that miesse has long lived as a fun fair mover and than stayed for years in the yard but outside, Nowedays most is cleaned up by law and the high price of scrap. Pitty but there aren’t many collecters here,it are all cyclists 
.
And one can’t buy everything that it never will be restored.
bye Eric,
