ERF-Continental:
Imagine a “Thibaut” Trailor Savoyarde, a “Van Steenbergen” L.A.G., a “Van Uden” Pacton pops-up somewhere?
You then could imitate the various demonstrations throughout Europe with the “Beresford” as well!
If it is to be restored in Britain then the livery would do well to match its British number plate. Beresford livery achieves this. Both of the Beresford-livery wagons saw mostly Swiss work, so you still get you Continental flavour).
Likewise, if an Eric Vick tilt turns up somewhere the British plate would look authentic. Personally, I would like to see it in Eric Vick livery with UK - Middle-East stencilled across the bumper (as with KFH 248P), which says more about the NGC than anything else.
I think painting it in ERF ‘rocket’ red as a demonstrator would just be a terrible waste of a good opportunity to show an international working NGC of the period.
Alternatively, if this is a genuine restoration perhaps it should be presented in the livery of R Collin and given ‘false’ French number plates for display at shows. Likewise, you could find ‘false’ Saudi plates and repaint it in Trans Arabia livery.
In the end it will be entirely the choice of the owners. Robert
Come on all you REVS members, have a look for that advert, scan it and let’s see how much they really wanted for that French unit, to end all this aimless speculation. I must have joined REVS just after that advert went in because it is in none of my back-numbers of the magazine. Jerry kindly had a search for me a while back but he couldn’t find it. Robert
Now here is an interesting juxtaposition: a close-up of the rear end of the engine taken by Philippe Mathurin, and an almost identical close-up I took of the rear end of KCH 95N’s engine. Just a coincidence. Robert
Guess that was Rene Postma/Interwheels…no longer active in trucks-transfers, by the way he would bought
the French NGC in case the price was right, apparently not…
Don’t teach a monkey how to climb or to eat a banana…the Dutch are known (not well-known) for
their commercial approach in case something cross their roads, even when it is an ERF NGC of '70’s
Apparently we now follow the nostalgia path of what was and what could be…?
To avoid we now input several pictures of NGC’s from different angles and discussions
on the livery regardless the future owner…let’s forget the French NGC as it by now
certainly has been affected by robbers, emblem-hunters and the severe state of age.
In fact nobody would show interest to invest a rough 20k for “a” truck, and I know a
lot about a rare Italian as well as a Krupp of the '60 and the costs involved!
I prefer to abandon this thread being to much forced in preferences and flavours.
Wish you all the best, no hard feelings and thanks for your active contributions!!!
Personally, I thought it was very clever of Philippe to take as many close-in detailed shots as possible, as this shows exactly where the rust has set in and where the fabric has deteriorated. This was his intention. I expect it is in much the same condition now. If anyone does take on the serious business of a restoration project, I’d be one of the first to want to lend assistance. The dream of the project itself is a strong and worthy one, but bickering about its livery while it still rots would be a facile waste of energy. There’s nothing I’d like more than to see this unit back on its feet and running - in any livery. Robert
Last assumption…I guess Rene Postma & Cie expected to gain their fortune again
just as Steef Slappendel did the, but let this one go to the near steel works!!!
To avoid extra costs, probably acelor/sidmar in luxemburg!
You may remember that a while back I noticed that this NGC unit appeared to be in the livery of Comart. I posted the picture on the Comart thread and asked about it. Now it appears that drivers have been discussing this vehicle and agree that Comart did indeed have an ERF NGC and this looks like the one. Apparently, a driver named Bob was its ‘pilot’. This information was kindly posted on the Comart thread today by Ant. We need to confirm this in our registers. Robert
Confirmation that Comart ran this wagon is quite a useful breakthrough. It is also an addition to the fairly short list of British operated NGCs. Robert
I’ve just had a look through the British-registered NGCs and there are now more than I thought on the list. There are 19 altogether (one of which is Pountain’s hybrid), 3 of which are ERF demo units which presumably passed into service somewhere.
Here’s the breakdown:
KFH 248P Eric Vick (Vijore)
KFH 249P Eric Vick (Vijore)
KFH 250P Richard Read (Vijore)
KFH 251P Richard Read (Vijore)
NFH 120P Richard Read
PDF 444R Vijore / Shamara
Q691NTR Shamara
JDF 132N Beresford
GEH 513N Albert Dale (Beresford) / John Symmons
GOS 543N Greer
HNV 59N ■■■■■■■ / Pountain / Redcap
Q824 RGC BFI
MMG 772P (grey livery) unknown
KRH 153P PG Horridge
reg unknown Comart
UGE 852R Pountains (not an NGC but incl. for ref)
reg unknown ERF demo
KDM 460N ERF demo
JLG 35N ERF demo
Just an update for what it’s worth…I overheard right now that the R. Collin NGC has been sold to a Dutchman
quite recently and by far for NOT at the (high) price suggested over here, but I wish the owner real good luck!!!
ERF-Continental:
Just an update for what it’s worth…I overheard right now that the R. Collin NGC has been sold to a Dutchman
quite recently and by far for NOT at the (high) price suggested over here, but I wish the owner real good luck!!!
That’s brilliant news because now it’ll get saved instead of just talked about! I suppose after 3 years they must have decided to cut their losses and let it go at a more realistic price before it disintegrated. Now we’ll see what livery it ends up in - exciting, eh? Robert
A-J! While you still have the hot news in your hand, and the thrill of the chase in your breast, perhaps you could find out once and for all whether R Collin’s NGC really has an NTC 335 in it. Philippe thought it had, but was unable to confirm this. We can already see from the gear-knob that it has a 13-speed Fuller, but even that might be a fanciful addition. So a complete low-down would be much appreciated from our super-sleuth in Holland! Herge would have had fun drawing pictures of Kuifje (Tin-tin) pursuing an ERF NGC down cobbled urban streets with its dekzeil (tilt) sheets flapping in the wind, and Snowy the dog fastening his jaws round the crook’s ankles. Whoops, got carried away there. We await your news, meneer. Robert
Just returned from holidays in Borneo, where I came across this gem coming out of the mountain forrests.