DEANB:
Happy Christmas Robert,and everyone else who follows this thread.…Found this photo on net,no information about it.
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They did air flow testing on the 7MW- hahahahahaa!!!
DEANB:
Happy Christmas Robert,and everyone else who follows this thread.Found these 2 new ones on the net of Vijore transport. (Photos are Peter Smith’s.)
Taken in Belgrade around 79/80.
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Taken North of Jeddah around 79/80.
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Found this photo on net,no information about it.
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Happy New Year, Dean! Just arrived back from Aswan so just seen this: brilliant! I haven’t seen any of those pics before. The Vijore unit is NFH 120P by the way. Interesting too, that an NGC did an overland trip to Jeddah where at least 19 other NGCs were doing internals to my knowledge. Cheers, Robert
Regarding above post: any idea whether Peter Smith just posted the pictures, or whether he actually took them, or whether he was driving KFH 120P at the time? I haven’t come across his name before in connection with the Vijore NGCs. Cheers, Robert
robert1952:
Regarding above post: any idea whether Peter Smith just posted the pictures, or whether he actually took them, or whether he was driving KFH 120P at the time? I haven’t come across his name before in connection with the Vijore NGCs. Cheers, Robert
I believe he just took them as he was an owner driver.
Intresting picture of KRH153P before Phil Horridge i assume owned it. Intresting that it had
the screen guards on it. I wonder if it was used on middle east work ? Has by the look of it
routiers stickers on the bumper.Apparently it was fitted with a 250 ■■■■■■■ at this time so
must have been upgraded to the 335 engine.
DEANB:
robert1952:
Regarding above post: any idea whether Peter Smith just posted the pictures, or whether he actually took them, or whether he was driving KFH 120P at the time? I haven’t come across his name before in connection with the Vijore NGCs. Cheers, RobertI believe he just took them as he was an owner driver.
Intresting picture of KRH153P before Phil Horridge i assume owned it. Intresting that it had
the screen guards on it. I wonder if it was used on middle east work ? Has by the look of it
routiers stickers on the bumper.Apparently it was fitted with a 250 ■■■■■■■ at this time so
must have been upgraded to the 335 engine.
Another fantastic ‘new’ picture, Dean 
! KRH 153P was operated by PG Horridge of Poole on Euro work. One of its drivers, called Dave, spoke highly of it somewhere on these threads: it had a ■■■■■■■ 335 with 9-speed Fuller to begin with. However, when I was researching for my 2nd book I spoke to it’s later driver, Bob Jarrett, who described it as ‘a bit of a beast’, as it had been in the workshops and emerged with a ■■■■■■■ 350 from a heavy plant machine, plus a back-to-front 13-speed Fuller and a coach diff! I imagine that it flew on the flat and struggled on the hills 
. I have posted other pics of it below. The first one was taken by Colin Knapp. Happy New Year! Robert 
Looking more closely at your picture, Dean, it has been painted in a new white with a red band livery. So I wonder if it went to an owner-driver in its last days… Robert
Some ‘new’ NGC pictures have appeared on the Trans Arabia thread, for those who are keen: 5 on page 57; 1 on page 58; and 2 on page 59 
. Cheers. Robert
Out of interest, comparing the pictures (above) of KRH, it would seem that the latest pic of it posted by DEANB differs from its Phil Horridge guise in the following ways:
The cab has been painted white
A broad read & white waist-band has been added
A 2nd air-horn has been mounted on the roof
What appears to be a home-made sun-visor has replaced the factory original
The ERF letters are missing
The ERF letters surround (missing before) has been reinstated
Rectangular fog-lamps have been added to the bumper
Circular spot-lamps have been added to the bumper
Circular Les Routiers stickers have been added to the bumper
Oz-style windscreen stone-guards have been added
Bigger mirrors have replaced the old ones
The grille-mounted TIR-plate has been removed
This reinforces my suspicion that after its life with Phil Horridge, KRH may have passed to an owner-driver. I have reposted the pic on the Poole thread to see if any of the local lads can help with this.
Cheers, Robert
robert1952:
Out of interest, comparing the pictures (above) of KRH, it would seem that the latest pic of it posted by DEANB differs from its Phil Horridge guise in the following ways:The cab has been painted white
A broad read & white waist-band has been added
A 2nd air-horn has been mounted on the roof
What appears to be a home-made sun-visor has replaced the factory original
The ERF letters are missing
The ERF letters surround (missing before) has been reinstated
Rectangular fog-lamps have been added to the bumper
Circular spot-lamps have been added to the bumper
Circular Les Routiers stickers have been added to the bumper
Oz-style windscreen stone-guards have been added
Bigger mirrors have replaced the old ones
The grille-mounted TIR-plate has been removedThis reinforces my suspicion that after its life with Phil Horridge, KRH may have passed to an owner-driver. I have reposted the pic on the Poole thread to see if any of the local lads can help with this.
Cheers, Robert
Had a 250 bhp ■■■■■■■ fitted in it at the time of the photo ?
Not sure if this pic has been posted before taken at Sandbach in 1975. One of the rare rigid
chassis. I wondered if it was the Thibaut chassis,but looking at the two pics i think the chassis
is a bit longer on the Thibaut chassis. Also i notice that the marker lights which are normally on
the front of the roof are on the roof side on this picture ?
DEANB:
Had a 250 bhp ■■■■■■■ fitted in it at the time of the photo ?
NGCs came with 335s or 290s. Although they were originally offered with the 250 option I know of none fitted. I suspect that the poster meant to put ‘350’ but put ‘250’ instead. Robert
DEANB:
Not sure if this pic has been posted before taken at Sandbach in 1975. One of the rare rigid
chassis. I wondered if it was the Thibaut chassis,but looking at the two pics i think the chassis
is a bit longer on the Thibaut chassis. Also i notice that the marker lights which are normally on
the front of the roof are on the roof side on this picture ?1
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It would appear that this chassis was being readied at Sandbach to become one of the five tractive units with 5.34m wheelbases that were supplied to Falcon Freight’s Jeddah operation. Bill Fitzsimons, who was a field engineer for ERF told me that these were basically the same as the drawbar outfits supplied to Belgium and France, but they were given fifth-wheels and worked as artics. The reason for this was more to do with paperwork than practical concerns! More of this will appear in my 3rd book. Cheers, Robert
Oh for a diary and a camera! When you’re young you’re never going to be old and anyway, who cares!
My memories of Falconfreight are of giving a casual wave somewhere between Riyadh and Jeddah at someone who was probably a Brit!
Oh how I wish I could have thought that somewhere in the future I might want to recall those moments…
John
John West:
Oh for a diary and a camera! When you’re young you’re never going to be old and anyway, who cares!My memories of Falconfreight are of giving a casual wave somewhere between Riyadh and Jeddah at someone who was probably a Brit!
Oh how I wish I could have thought that somewhere in the future I might want to recall those moments…
John
Happy New Year John! Do you remember their ERFs? They were usually pulling trailers loaded with cement as far as I understand it. Robert
More news of KRH 153P, resulting from the pic DEANB posted. Dean suspects the picture was taken before Phil Horridge had it; and I suspected that it was taken afterwards: I was wrong (sorry Dean)! 
. On the Poole thread, Geoff Luther spoke to its Horridge driver (Bob Jarrett) and apparently the picture does indeed pre-date the unit’s time in red and white livery. Bob recognises the original grille, which was apparently replaced after someone reversed into it in a yard. Robert
Spoke to Bob, who drove KRH, on the phone today. He doesn’t remember what the original engine was, or who owned it before Phil. However, he pointed out that it is a Hull registration number so I’ll pop the picture on the North East thread and see what happens.
Another interesting snippet is that apparently, KRH never went abroad for Phil Horridge but only undertook domestic UK work . It was the B-series that replaced it that did Continental work.
Robert
Which brings us neatly to the thorny problem of knowing what its original engine was. The caption to the photo apparently stated that it had a ■■■■■■■ 250, which is highly unlikely because we know of no others fitted with one. However, it is still possible for the following reasons:
- They (250s) were offered, in theory, in the publicity brochures.
- The Sherbourg hill story appears to be nonsense because the lorry never went abroad.
- No one has yet been able to tell me what the original engine was before they stuffed a ■■■■■■■ 350 plant engine in it.
- You wouldn’t want to replace a 335 with a 350 unless it blew up; but you might want to replace a non-turbo 250.
Robert
More news has emerged. Geoff Luther reports that Phil Horridge acquired KRH 153P in its original livery from Ted Croswell before painting it in his own livery. Brilliant! Robert
robert1952:
Which brings us neatly to the thorny problem of knowing what its original engine was. The caption to the photo apparently stated that it had a ■■■■■■■ 250, which is highly unlikely because we know of no others fitted with one. However, it is still possible for the following reasons:
- They (250s) were offered, in theory, in the publicity brochures.
- The Sherbourg hill story appears to be nonsense because the lorry never went abroad.
- No one has yet been able to tell me what the original engine was before they stuffed a ■■■■■■■ 350 plant engine in it.
- You wouldn’t want to replace a 335 with a 350 unless it blew up; but you might want to replace a non-turbo 250.
Robert
A logical explanation might be that the first buyer was prepared to put up with the downsides of a relatively heavy unladen lhd European spec unit for use on just uk work to get the upsides of the European cab.Then ordered a typical poverty uk engine spec as part of that.Which was then noticed as being ideal by its later owner for international work who then upgraded its engine spec to match.In which case no point in going for a 335 if there’s something even more powerful and more cheaply available like a plant engine.I’d guess that the change would also have needed an upgraded transmission spec to go with the higher torque output. 
Carryfast:
robert1952:
Which brings us neatly to the thorny problem of knowing what its original engine was. The caption to the photo apparently stated that it had a ■■■■■■■ 250, which is highly unlikely because we know of no others fitted with one. However, it is still possible for the following reasons:
- They (250s) were offered, in theory, in the publicity brochures.
- The Sherbourg hill story appears to be nonsense because the lorry never went abroad.
- No one has yet been able to tell me what the original engine was before they stuffed a ■■■■■■■ 350 plant engine in it.
- You wouldn’t want to replace a 335 with a 350 unless it blew up; but you might want to replace a non-turbo 250.
Robert
A logical explanation might be that the first buyer was prepared to put up with the downsides of a relatively heavy unladen lhd European spec unit for use on just uk work to get the upsides of the European cab.Then ordered a typical poverty uk engine spec as part of that.Which was then noticed as being ideal by its later owner for international work who then upgraded its engine spec to match.In which case no point in going for a 335 if there’s something even more powerful and more cheaply available like a plant engine.I’d guess that the change would also have needed an upgraded transmission spec to go with the higher torque output.
Interesting theory, CF, except that it was the latter operator who used it on UK domestics. By the way, I’ve posted something right up your street on the LHD SA 400 thread. Happy New Year! Robert