Article from September 20th 1974,Commercial Motor.
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Carryfast:
robert1952:
It would still be good to get decent full page scans of pages 40-43 of CM 12/01/73 to read the small print. There were clearly other pieces about the NGC in that issue, as I have just found this item in my file, also scanned from the same magazine. Robert0
That seems to suggest that the small cam was capable of 420 hp and available in the NGC.I wasn’t aware of such a high output for the small cam.It would be interesting to see the exact torque and power peaks for that spec as the small cam wasn’t known for having as much torque output capability as the big cam.But that must be one of the most if not the most powerful available truck options in the day ?.
No, CF; I think it just suggests that the journalists of the day didn’t know that 42 meant 42-tonner and that 0 meant 4x2 in ERF code 
. Cheers, Robert
DEANB:
Article from September 20th 1974,Commercial Motor.
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Brilliant, Dean! Thanks for posting this. I only have a fraction of this piece and it is good to see it in its entirety with the picture intact. 
Great stuff! Robert
My hearty congratulations to ‘380-Streamline’, who began this thread: you now have 100 pages to contemplate!! 
. Robert
Congratulations Robert,
You may not have started this thread but have been the main contributor and
what an intresting thread about the history of the NGC it has become. 
Another couple of bits from commercial motor.
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This bit was from a 1972/or 1973 commercial magazine. Out of intrest did the NGC s that
Eric Vick/ Richard Read / Vijore run have telma retarders fitted ? Not many UK trucks had
them fitted that long ago ?
100 pages deserves some new pics ! First two of Vermeulens are a bit out of focus.
Two of Groenenbooms finest,particularly like the first one.Fully loaded really looks the part.
DEANB:
Congratulations Robert,You may not have started this thread but have been the main contributor and
what an intresting thread about the history of the NGC it has become.6
Another couple of bits from commercial motor.
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This bit was from a 1972/or 1973 commercial magazine. Out of intrest did the NGC s that
Eric Vick/ Richard Read / Vijore run have telma retarders fitted ? Not many UK trucks had
them fitted that long ago ?4
100 pages deserves some new pics ! First two of Vermeulens are a bit out of focus.
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Two of Groenenbooms finest,particularly like the first one.Fully loaded really looks the part.
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Well Dean, what a brilliant way to celebrate 100 pages! With new pictures, too! Thank you.
Your reference to Telma electric retarders probably applies to some of the old kit Vijore ran down to the M/E. The NGCs themselves had Jake-Brakes as standard equipment and their drivers certainly appreciated them in the mountains - I have that at first hand!
Your piece from CM about the evolving ERF Euro network is interesting because it gives so much detail. The shortcomings of this network have been discussed on here many times, and also in the 2 or 3 other threads that were started, dealing specifically with European ERFs. It is interesting to note that they circulated lists of all the companies that operated ERFs abroard! I didn’t know that. This piece is vital in showing that on paper, at least, ERF did make a more serious attempt to support its overseas lorries than perhaps we have given them credit for.
Great new pics of the Vermeulen lorries. I haven’t seen those before! Later today I will identify each one for you (if I can). I see that the photographer is Peter de Jong: I wonder if that’s the same Peter de Jong who was instrumental in setting up ERF with Best Imports in Holland.
And great new pics of the Groenenboom units too! The first one I’ve not seen and the second one is on here somewhere but your pic is clearer.
Brilliant!
Cheers, Robert
OK just to follow up my response to Dean’s excellent contribution. I think I’ve identified all the units from my files of other pictures.
The Vermeulen unit on its own appears to be 91-99-HB (pre-registration number N-03-66; and previous registration number 34-UB-99).
The Vermeulen unit with an FTF appears to be 87-69-RB.
The Groenenboom units are self-evident.
Cheers, Robert
I can’t remember if I posted this on here or not. I remember writing about it. It’s a picture of JDF 132N which appeared in a REVS mag a little while ago, showing the unit as an ERF demonstrator with Growcott before it entered service with Beresford Transport (and wound up with Trans Arabia). It’s the one that went to work in Le Havre on French plates. I have a sneaky feeling that the two pictures we have of it on UK plates in Beresford livery were taken before it was sent to France. Therefore, it is likely that it never did return to UK and miraculously acquire its original plates (as shown on this demo pic). Robert
^^^The lorry seems to have been driven by one M. Thatcher. She must have done that job between stopping the milk and being Prime Minister.
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anorak:
^^^The lorry seems to have been driven by one M. Thatcher. She must have done that job between stopping the milk and being Prime Minister.
The milk isn’t for turning! Robert
robert1952:
I can’t remember if I posted this on here or not. I remember writing about it. It’s a picture of JDF 132N which appeared in a REVS mag a little while ago, showing the unit as an ERF demonstrator with Growcott before it entered service with Beresford Transport (and wound up with Trans Arabia). It’s the one that went to work in Le Havre on French plates. I have a sneaky feeling that the two pictures we have of it on UK plates in Beresford livery were taken before it was sent to France.0
Intresting picture Robert.
Robert, something does not seem right about the Hye / Cauvas unit.
The lorry below can not be the Hye vehicle as that was already a three axle unit. The Cauvas unit was
originally a 4x2 ,so looking at the batteries,spare wheel with the Vijore unit i would say it was a genuine
ERF rather than a conversion ?
My God, that’s a turn up for the books (in more ways than one)! I’m damned glad you found these, Dean because it would seem that:
a) 8264RW95 was a genuine 4x2 unit with a normal 7MW cab
b) it was converted to 6x4 later on
c) the Hye vehicle is a total red herring
d) in which case the Van Driesse unit is probably a red herring too
e) we may have been led up the garden path
I will amend my records accordingly, and while I’m at it I’ll carefully review some other ‘facts’ that came this way.
Robert
Robert, a couple of nice new pics of Cauvas as well ! Glad thats sorted as was getting confusing.
Can you email me a new register when you have updated it.
DEANB:
Robert, a couple of nice new pics of Cauvas as well ! Glad thats sorted as was getting confusing.
Can you email me a new register when you have updated it.
Yes, I’ll send it this evening as I’ve just updated it. You will notice that I’ve left the Hye and Van Driesche entries in the ‘false friends’ section at the end, because it may well be that these two did indeed receive 8MW cabs later on: perhaps this part of the information was correct but the detail about the Hye vehicle going to Cauvas may have been a mistake, unless of course it really did go to Cauvas AS WELL as 8264RW95 and we simply have no pictures of it.
Robert
EDIT:
I have deleted the above entries. They can always be reinstated if future evidence emerges. Also, you will also notice that I have reinstated the Cauvas unit (good news!) at number 67 on the register to replace the Damco unit for which we have no evidence of any kind. Cheers!
robert1952:
DEANB:
Robert, a couple of nice new pics of Cauvas as well ! Glad thats sorted as was getting confusing.
Can you email me a new register when you have updated it.Yes, I’ll send it this evening as I’ve just updated it. You will notice that I’ve left the Hye and Van Driesche entries in the ‘false friends’ section at the end, because it may well be that these two did indeed receive 8MW cabs later on: perhaps this part of the information was correct but the detail about the Hye vehicle going to Cauvas may have been a mistake, unless of course it really did go to Cauvas AS WELL as 8264RW95 and we simply have no pictures of it.
RobertEDIT:
I have deleted the above entries. They can always be reinstated if future evidence emerges. Also, you will also notice that I have reinstated the Cauvas unit (good news!) at number 67 on the register to replace the Damco unit for which we have no evidence of any kind. Cheers!
Could be that Hye did own it before Cauvas as you suggest as a 4x2, who knows ■■ Then Cauvas added the extra axle. I will see if i can find out.
All in all, this still leaves us with just three retro-conversions (Cauvas, Eyckmans and Shamara); and zero NGCs leaving Sandbach with 6x4, all having left with 4x2. Robert
Incidentally, I’ve just remembered that Neils Jansen mentioned running a book review for Holland’s TRUCKSTAR magazine a while back. I anyone on here takes it or sees it regularly perhaps they’ll keep a look-out for it. Cheers, Robert
