adr:
it would be interesting to know. The history of wagons interests me, how many firms they worked for in their lives, Fleet/Company passing onto smaller hauliers or Owner drivers etc, doesn’t happen that much now I think as wagons were built tougher years ago & had much longer lives, some giving service to 3 or 4 different Governor’, nowadays with all the plastic used etc they usually shake themselves to bits & fall apart, or all the electrical crap on them goes wrong & calls an end to their lives! Regards Chris
If you turn to the back of book 2 you’ll see a table. In the fifth column I show what companies each NGC worked for and in what order where known. Of course it is incomplete and the table is already out of date because I am constantly receiving new information. However, book 3 will show a hopefully more refined list. Robert
robert1952:
I love these two pics, taken in a dockyard. Interesting trailer
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I agree!
Well all I can say is, bless you for starting this thread! It has attracted an extraordinary breadth of experience from across the globe. I too like the atmosphere in those pictures, however indistinct. One of my gripes about British / Dutch / German trucking magazines over the last three decades has been that they only publish crystal-clear sterile truck pictures, whereas the French have always been happy to publish photos that capture the atmosphere of the occasion / country / scenario regardless of the photo-quality. Bravo les Francais! SO MUCH is lost when you start discarding poor photos of brilliant trucking!
Meanwhile, ‘380streamline’, you started this thread, then stood back. I involved myself deeply in it, but in the end this thread most certainly is not about me; it’s about the ERF NGC. I hope that you continue to monitor the thread that you started. Cheers old mate . Robert
Yes I like 'original’and atmospheric photos, and to be honest when I first started the thread, I didn’t check back for quite a while, and was gobsmacked when I saw the page count!
robert1952:
Re ^^ above picture: I am assured by Peter Davies that the pic was indeed taken at the ERF works, which of course makes sense. Robert
Hello …me again… the apex roof behind the B series is jennings wood machine shop. the shed behind the 7mw is jennings cab repair shop with the Cab specials shop above …(the window you can see)… this shed was green corrugated sheets… theres a photo taken in a similar position of a dark blue 5 mw unit and a seddon cab and chassis… when this photo was taken ERF had taken over Jennings body works…Jennings later started another body building business in Crewe near the station… i hope this helps a little…
John…ex Jennings worker
robert1952:
Re ^^ above picture: I am assured by Peter Davies that the pic was indeed taken at the ERF works, which of course makes sense. Robert
Hello …me again… the apex roof behind the B series is jennings wood machine shop. the shed behind the 7mw is jennings cab repair shop with the Cab specials shop above …(the window you can see)… this shed was green corrugated sheets… theres a photo taken in a similar position of a dark blue 5 mw unit and a seddon cab and chassis… when this photo was taken ERF had taken over Jennings body works…Jennings later started another body building business in Crewe near the station… i hope this helps a little…
John…ex Jennings worker
Excellent response: so that settles the mystery. Brilliant to have you back on here, John! Cheers, Robert
My current list of British assembled 4x2 forward-control premium long-haul LHD tractive units with sleeper cabs, ■■■■■■■ engines and 9-speed Fuller 'boxes is as follows:
robert1952:
My current list of British assembled 4x2 forward-control premium long-haul LHD tractive units with sleeper cabs, ■■■■■■■ engines and 9-speed Fuller 'boxes is as follows:
Posts like this are a red flag to a bull[zb]er like me.
You could get those oily bits in a Borderer. IIRC from reading this forum, Atkinson had their preferred pigeon loft lasher-up, so a sleeper Mk2 could be ordered from the factory.
Foden S40, S80, S83, S90 Universal (4x2? probably) and S95 Fleetmaster were all available with ■■■■■■■ and long cabs.
If you consider the 1980s, then Foden’s S10 and 4000 must be added, plus Roadtrains, Stratos etc.
robert1952:
My current list of British assembled 4x2 forward-control premium long-haul LHD tractive units with sleeper cabs, ■■■■■■■ engines and 9-speed Fuller 'boxes is as follows:
Posts like this are a red flag to a bull[zb]er like me.
You could get those oily bits in a Borderer. IIRC from reading this forum, Atkinson had their preferred pigeon loft lasher-up, so a sleeper Mk2 could be ordered from the factory.
Foden S40, S80, S83, S90 Universal (4x2? probably) and S95 Fleetmaster were all available with ■■■■■■■ and long cabs.
If you consider the 1980s, then Foden’s S10 and 4000 must be added, plus Roadtrains, Stratos etc.
You’ve missed two contraints: ‘LHD’ and ‘1970’s’.
If you want me to wander into the 1980s, we can only add (bearing in mind that I’m only going on LHD evidence):
ERF C-series (Middle-East export) Cu14:290 / 350
Ford Transcontinental Cu14:350
Leyland Roadtrain Rolls Royce 300/350 (ie. not ■■■■■■■ in LHD form, but undoubtedly excellent lorries nonetheless)
Ford Cargo Cu10:L10-290
And if you want me to add 1990s evidence (again @ LHD):
We can only reiterate the Ford Cargo Cu10:L10-290;
and ADD the Foden 4000 Cu14:410 S10 Hi-line Belgian spec left-■■■■■■ (which was only offered on paper, and I am assured by the Foden exports expert, who’s book will shortly grace our shelves, was never actually produced with 9-sp Fuller. Robert
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anorak:
You didn’t stipulate 1970s, although I did assume it , which was why I deliberately mentioned 1980s when introducing those vehicles.
You’re right- I missed the LHD bit, so please discount the Atki, unless the Krupp-cabbed one may be counted as a 1970s motor.
I did miss one bona fide 1970s GB-assembled, LHD ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ sleeper tractor- Guy Big J.
Oh yes! Sorry, I did miss the 1970s tag ! The Atki CLT deffo belongs to the '60s. The LHD Big-J was shown at one of the '60s motor shows but I can find no evidence of them having been sold / operated. There’s a thread about them on here somewhere that I started. Minefield! Cheers, Robert
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anorak:
You didn’t stipulate 1970s, although I did assume it , which was why I deliberately mentioned 1980s when introducing those vehicles.
You’re right- I missed the LHD bit, so please discount the Atki, unless the Krupp-cabbed one may be counted as a 1970s motor.
I did miss one bona fide 1970s GB-assembled, LHD ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ sleeper tractor- Guy Big J.
Oh yes! Sorry, I did miss the 1970s tag ! The Atki CLT deffo belongs to the '60s. The LHD Big-J was shown at one of the '60s motor shows but I can find no evidence of them having been sold / operated. There’s a thread about them on here somewhere that I started. Minefield! Cheers, Robert
There are pics about of those CLTs on 1970s plates, but I would believe you if you said they were all built in the '60s, and registered later .
The LHD Guys are mentioned here: viewtopic.php?f=35&t=137711
The pic shows one with a unique(?) full wheelarch, which I am guessing is a factory prototype/mock-up. Let the search for evidence of “production” LHD Big J’s commence.
On your register you mention that Van Driesche re cabbed a truck with a motor panels cab.
Have found the following pic of one of their lorries,so at least it gives as an idea of what
colour they were.
Welcome back Dean! Loved your pic of the DAF replacement for the Belgian NGC. Both the Pountains pics have already been posted on here - by you!! Love it .
robert1952:
Welcome back Dean! Loved your pic of the DAF replacement for the Belgian NGC. Both the Pountains pics have already been posted on here - by you!! Love it .
Cheers old mate, Robert.
Lost the plot then chap ! Dont remember putting the second one on before.
Anyway as usual im to good to you,how about this one !
robert1952:
Welcome back Dean! Loved your pic of the DAF replacement for the Belgian NGC. Both the Pountains pics have already been posted on here - by you!! Love it .
Cheers old mate, Robert.
Lost the plot then chap ! Dont remember putting the second one on before.
Anyway as usual im to good to you,how about this one !
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Fantastic! These are new, Dean. That’s a fine image of PDF 444R ; nice light showing up the cab. Probably taken when it first came off Middle-East work. The NFH 120P artwork would make a nice Christmas card, methinks! Cheers, Robert
Incidently, does anyone know who the artist ‘STG’ was (with regard to the artwork image posted by DEANB, above)? It is a very faithful drawing of the vehicle depicted. Robert
robert1952:
Incidently, does anyone know who the artist ‘STG’ was (with regard to the artwork image posted by DEANB, above)? It is a very faithful drawing of the vehicle depicted. Robert
Havent a clue where i found that,it was a while ago !
robert1952:
Incidently, does anyone know who the artist ‘STG’ was (with regard to the artwork image posted by DEANB, above)? It is a very faithful drawing of the vehicle depicted. Robert
Havent a clue where i found that,it was a while ago !
However this is a new one and a cracker.
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It is indeed a cracker! I have a poor photocopy of this with tea stains on, which I posted on here some time ago; so I’m so glad you’ve found a decent image of it. Many thanks for posting these recent ‘finds’ Dean! Robert
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, which was why I deliberately mentioned 1980s when introducing those vehicles.
! The Atki CLT deffo belongs to the '60s. The LHD Big-J was shown at one of the '60s motor shows but I can find no evidence of them having been sold / operated. There’s a thread about them on here somewhere that I started. Minefield! Cheers, Robert
