This thread is primarily Robert’s passion. Monsieur Saviem’s contribution to it may be worthy of repetition at this time. I’ll give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
@ Anorak: wise words. Thank you.
@ Pete: In the interests of preserving the sanctity of John’s memory at this awkward time, I have removed my initial response to this post. The polite tone of your post indicates to me that you probably didn’t intend to offend. And we can all be a bit hasty in grief. My original post was meant to convey how proud I was to be able to include John’s comments in my book. I was thrilled when he gave me permission to use the quotation. I was actually using my book to promote John: not the other way round. It’s a perception thing, I suppose. I nurse no grudge.
Robert
robert1952:
@ Anorak: wise words. Thank you.@ Pete: In the interests of preserving the sanctity of John’s memory at this awkward time, I have removed my initial response to this post. The polite tone of your post indicates to me that you probably didn’t intend to offend. And we can all be a bit hasty in grief. My original post was meant to convey how proud I was to be able to include John’s comments in my book. I was thrilled when he gave me permission to use the quotation. I was actually using my book to promote John: not the other way round. It’s a perception thing, I suppose. I nurse no grudge.
Robert
Robert I have also edited my response,Thank you Pete
pete smith:
robert1952:
@ Anorak: wise words. Thank you.@ Pete: In the interests of preserving the sanctity of John’s memory at this awkward time, I have removed my initial response to this post. The polite tone of your post indicates to me that you probably didn’t intend to offend. And we can all be a bit hasty in grief. My original post was meant to convey how proud I was to be able to include John’s comments in my book. I was thrilled when he gave me permission to use the quotation. I was actually using my book to promote John: not the other way round. It’s a perception thing, I suppose. I nurse no grudge.
Robert
Robert I have also edited my response,Thank you Pete
Bless you. Robert
If you look through most of that “supplier’s” pictures there are quite a few off NAT3 and Peter Davies photo’s that is why I have no problem re-posting pictures off e-bay!
^^^Yes, several have made me pause for thought over recent years! Robert
Dont think i have seen this one before Robert. Looks like it was a early one as there is no grill on top of
the cab. Number 20 off the production line maybe ■■?
DEANB:
Dont think i have seen this one before Robert. Looks like it was a early one as there is no grill on top of
the cab. Number 20 off the production line maybe ■■?
Hello Dean. Little to identify it. It’s been on here before and featured in a Trucking International article: here’s a page of it. Robert
Another one of Pountains.
DEANB:
Another one of Pountains.0
That’s a much better version of a poor black & white image I posted early in the thread.
Incidentally, I saw a restored Citroen van this morning, registered KCH 102N. Perhaps this batch of numbers was handed out as retro-plates to imported preservation projects for those not wishing to acquire Q-plates (bearing in mind KCH 95N for the Corbishley motor). Robert
Blimey, you did well to spot that one!! Robert
Hi Robert, it was nice to meet you at Gaydon/Retro Show the other week. I am just starting to read Lorries of Arabia part 2, having previously read Lorries of Arabia, one thing I noticed just having a flick through the pages looking at the pictures first (no matter how old you get, we all like looking at pictures 
), on Page 39 of LOA it shows a pic of KFH 250P having as it states already started work but still in its primer, it shows 3 stickers in the passenger side sleeper window. In LOA2 on page 44 it shows a pic years later of Reads graveyard showing NFH 120P, & behind it is KFH 250P still with its 3 stickers in the sleeper window, & still painted in what appears to be primer 
. I have the book ‘Road Transport-The Read Story’, which is a excellent read (pardon the pun), on page 82 there is a pic of 2 ERFs in Germany waiting to be loaded onto the train for Yugoslavia, the number plates are a bit blurred but the one on the left would appear to be KFH 250P, painted in Richard Read’ colours 
Minus the sleeper window stickers! So if the pic’ in Reads book is KFH 250P then why was she painted into Reads colours, then returned to primer later & then scrapped, & the 3 stickers in the sleeper window had by then re-appeared? But if it’s not 250P in Germany, then why as it would seem was she left in primer all her working life with Reads, a company that were/are very proud of their name/colours/history? Or at some point was 250P involved in a accident, requiring damage repair or re-cabbed? Regards Chris
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Hi Robert, it was nice to meet you at Gaydon/Retro Show the other week. I am just starting to read Lorries of Arabia part 2, having previously read Lorries of Arabia, one thing I noticed just having a flick through the pages looking at the pictures first (no matter how old you get, we all like looking at pictures
An excellent observation Adr! I don’t know why I didn’t spot that myself. As there are plenty of pictures of KFH 250P in full RR livery (the one below, for example) it would seem that it was repainted in primer at the end of its working life. Also, the EV pair entered service initially without their Kysors and I suspect the RR ones did too. I wonder if RR had it repainted to sell on second-hand and failed to find a buyer (that seems unlikely as I’m sure Trans Arabia would have taken it along with the Eric Vick pair), or perhaps it developed a serious mechanic fault or as you suggest accident damage. I’ll see if I can find out. Good detective work there. Robert
it would be interesting to know. The history of wagons interests me, how many firms they worked for in their lives, Fleet/Company passing onto smaller hauliers or Owner drivers etc, doesn’t happen that much now I think as wagons were built tougher years ago & had much longer lives, some giving service to 3 or 4 different Governor’, nowadays with all the plastic used etc they usually shake themselves to bits & fall apart, or all the electrical crap on them goes wrong & calls an end to their lives! Regards Chris