Perhaps our Dutch colleagues can help with this one. I notice that there is new book in Dutch advertised, with hundreds of pictures of rusting old trucks (a bit like our ‘Graveyard’ thread). It’s just possible that old NGCs may be visible in some pictures - who knows! The title is Geroeste Trucks en Bussen by Marcel Van Der Sluis; published by De Alk BV in April 2015 - www.alk.nl - and is priced at 29,90 Euro. If anyone has access to it, perhaps they would have a peep for us! Cheers, Robert
Fingers crossed I would say…as I don’t know how many NGCs have been sold in Holland.
What I do know is that from 1980 no scrap-yards were allowed in Holland and that every
wreck had to be dismantled and the components had to be stored under a roof with no
risks of leakage like oil and other fluids. But again perhaps some are captured in a field
like the French-originated then.
Luc
Macadam-woman:
Fingers crossed I would say…as I don’t know how many NGCs have been sold in Holland.
What I do know is that from 1980 no scrap-yards were allowed in Holland and that every
wreck had to be dismantled and the components had to be stored under a roof with no
risks of leakage like oil and other fluids. But again perhaps some are captured in a field
like the French-originated then.Luc
Ah-ha! And perhaps some of the photographs were taken before or during the clearance of established scrap-yards - as you say, ‘fingers crossed’. We know about approximately a dozen NL registered NGCs but there may have been more, as there are still new ones to discover. Also, there may the odd one sold second-hand from a Belgian or French operator (we know this happened with a few, like the French LTL unit that went to an unknown Belgian operator; the Meulemeester unit that went from Belgium to be cannibalised in UK; and the various units that were bought by S Jones to be sent out to Jeddah in TA colours). Cheers, Robert
Here’s an intriguing small ad I noticed at the back of the July issue of Classic Truck magazine. Good luck to him: I hope he finds one! Robert
Perhaps… hidden in a barn…it’s the weekend… we can dream…! . R
I always suspected that this ‘Graphite Garage’ drawing in France Routes magazine was the Cauvas 6x4 unit. Now, I am convinced that it is - complete with its two (instead of three) wipers and double-drive. That means this is almost certainly a drawing of an MCC with an 8MW cab. Robert
Hiya Robert,
Whilst searching in one of my books about heavy haulage I came across this one, don’t know if you’ve already seen it, if so my sincere apologies mate
Cheers, Patrick
pv83:
Hiya Robert,Whilst searching in one of my books about heavy haulage I came across this one, don’t know if you’ve already seen it, if so my sincere apologies mate
Cheers, Patrick
Well found! Actually it was posted on here a couple of pages back but it was slightly paler version. Cheers! Robert
By the way PV83, re above ^^^; have you got the title of the heavy haulage book you mentioned? Cheers, Robert
With regard to ensuring that a clear distinction is made between the NGC register and the sub-register of NGC look-alikes, this is what an addendum to the register might look like. Robert
[EDIT - table removed by me - see next post down!]
Correction to the entry above for UGE 852R: Weir were based in Fernigair (not Fernigait )! Cheers, Robert
It occurs to me that the odd thing about the VIJORE consortium is that only Tony Jones’s units seem to have been painted in VIJORE livery. Eric Vick’s and Richard Read’s units did the work in their own liveries. A range of units were placed on this work, but there were only six ERF NGCs: two in each livery. The two VIJORE-liveried NGCs belonging to Tony Jones eventually passed to Richard Read (NFH 120P and PDF 444R). As VIJORE was set up alongside these three domestic companies, it seems strange that they didn’t give the entire set of available vehicles a uniform livery. It seems that they preferred to switch domestic units in and out of the pool according to demand (witness the day-cabbed Seddon!). Robert
Hi Robert. Another ERF ‘European’ model truck is about to be launched from Road Transport Images. 1.76 scale in resin. Should be at Gaydon this weekend.
Dan.
Well to be honest and with respect…I have seen better examples and with todays possibilities
with 3D-printing and colouring I guess a scale of 1:43 would be a lot better?
jawwa:
Hi Robert. Another ERF ‘European’ model truck is about to be launched from Road Transport Images. 1.76 scale in resin. Should be at Gaydon this weekend.
Dan.
Thanks mate! These were commissioned last year by Neil Johnston - who also makes models - and they were produced by Frank Waller. Rather touchingly, I was presented with one of these, complete with a matching Beresford tilt trailer upon my arrival on Saturday morning - a complete surprise! In ‘the flesh’ these are excellent little models and I’m over the moon with mine. I’ll create a diorama for it now I’m back home.
Wonderful show this year, BTW. I’ll pop some pics on the show thread this evening. Robert
Considering the small scale, these models show a surprising amount of detail, including roof marker lights, correct indicators, long grab handles and even the correct Beresford number plates! I bought a couple in kit form so I’ll see what I can put together.
I was able to display mine on the Old Pond stand, where Jazzandy and I were signing copies of our books. It was a tremendous weekend, with a large number of lorries outside and some fabulous models inside. Plus many old friends and colleagues from the past. Robert
As you will know from recent posts on this thread, the real life unit (model of it a couple of posts above) registered GEH 513N did a spot of Middle-East work while it was still in Beresford colours. I’d be grateful if those with lots of Middle East pictures would keep their eyes peeled for any clusters of Beresford lorries on M/E work that include the presence of this particular unit. Aye thank yor! Robert
Kelsall was excellent again this year, with at least 225 ERFs on display. I’ll pop some pics on a dedicated thread to the event.
Meanwhile, there was plenty going on, on the ERF NGC front; which meant I was busy with my notebook for Book 3!
I met Wobbe Reitsma there, who had some nice odds and ends for me (brochures, sheets etc). By coincidence, both he and I have articles featuring NGCs in the June edition of REVS International (no. 164). His is about Eric Vick ERFs. Mine is called ‘King of the Mountains’.
I also met Ed Burrows, of TRUCKING, who has placed a wonderful 5-page full on article in which he combines a review of both Lorries of Arabia volumes with a study of NGCs, complete with lots of good pics. Ed is becoming a serious appreciator of NGCs, and if you remember, he produced a big article last year in TRUCKING magazine.
I met Gary Corbishley and family, of course, with KCH 95N on display and looking resplendent.
Another interesting chap I met was Dave Wallace, who was the main driver of GEH 513N when John Simmons had it. He was able to furnish me with new tales and information, plus some great new photos. It was he who took the pics kindly posted on this thread by his son Colin, by the way.
I was introduced to Bill Fitzsimons who worked for ERF on the technical side and was sometimes sent out to the Middle East to Trans Arabia. It turns out that he was the driver of JLH 35N when it was sent out to the Gulf as a demonstrator. Bill drove it from Beirut in Lebanon, through Syria, Jordan and Saudi to Qatar; and finished up taking it to Kuwait where it was sold. Details of course will go in Book 3.
Bill was also able to confirm that the five 5.34m wheelbase units that went out to Falcon Freight in Jeddah were basically drawbar prime-movers with fifth-wheel couplings. They were indeed used as tractive units and this was probably for paperwork reasons rather than practical ones!
I met an ex-Beresford driver who had spent some time working in Le Havre and remembers the French-registered NGC shunter there. He confirmed that JDF 132N was indeed the same vehicle and that it was simply given its old UK number back when it returned to Stoke. John Heath, who drove it for a fortnight, was also at Kelsall on the REVS stand.
Other former NGC drivers etc were there in the form of ex-Trans Arabia men, including Jerry Cooke, Dave Anslow. Ian Tyler who drove for CAMEL was there too. Vince Cooke brought along an old and battered Dutch number plate: 84-56-JB. When they prepared Ben Schaap’s old NGC for its Trans Arabia duties the plate was never thrown away! This proves conclusively that TA 126 and 84-56-JB were indeed the same vehicle, as we suspected.
And while I’m still on Trans Arabia I was able to meet Ken Broster at last! Wonderful to have a chat with him.
Neil Johnston was there too – the man who commissioned the models further up the page.
So all in all, a very productive weekend on the ‘Lorries of Arabia’ front; and a lot of excellent socializing too!
Robert