A tidy EC coming back from the steam engine show. Tony
I never knew the t/s was noisey,although i’ve not ridden in a truck with one whilst accelerating through the gears with a heavy load 
A local operator i know had a driver who couldn’t drive with a t/s,so they got him an
E10.25 with a fuller,and he drove that all day without the clutch! 
What’s the best engine for the EC ? ■■■■■■■ or Perkins ? Also which box ? twin splitter or syncro ? Tony
mercman123:
What’s the best engine for the EC ? ■■■■■■■ or Perkins ? Also which box ? twin splitter or syncro ? Tony
i reckon it’s got to be the Perkins because its a slower revving engine the last firm I worked for ran both ■■■■■■■ and Perkins powered ERFs and I always felt you couldn’t rush the ■■■■■■■ as much as the Perkins as god the best engine the ■■■■■■■ were better on fuel but I thought the Perkins pulled better but that’s from my own experience
And surely the best box was the Twin Splitter?
I used to like the old 9, 10, 13 and 15- speed Fullers but when I discovered the t/s I was hooked.
Well its perkins and twin splitter any more for any more ? Tony
gazsa401:
240 Gardner:
marky:
Dan Punchard:
I haven’t seen many b series with the smaller type rear window normaly found on the c series,the deep window was great for backing under a trailer.They were sold as the ‘Super B-Series’ and were built to be as light as possible. The back panel of the cab was essentially that of the C-Series, with ERF cottoning-on to the fact that plastic is lighter than glass - so the size of the window was shrunk. I believe the RR265L and Gardner 8LXB-engined versions of this (what was essentially) cross-over tractor were capable of tareing-off at less than 5.6 tonnes.
Was it the 8LXB, Mark, or the 6LXCT, that was marketed as super light?
it was the ones fitted with the 6LXCTs we ran about 20 day cabbed C Series weighing in at about 5 1/2 ton we used some of them on shunting between Melton Mowbray and our depot in Nottingham on a Pedigree pet food contract we had they were so light that even with a curtainsider we could carry just over 21 tonnes and with a 40 foot flat nearly 22 tonnes not bad for 4 axle artic they gave us great service a bit slow on the hills but superb on fuel and reliability most of them were kept for up to 12 years on other work we had and were double and even tripled trunked
they did enormous mileage with very little engine trouble other than injectors and the odd head gasket mind you they did get over regular oil changes and we used top grade engine oil which was expensive but it turn out to be cheaper in the long run not like the L10 ■■■■■■■ we used but that’s another story
They were both available as options on the Super B-Series Chris. I was just making the point that even with the larger 8LXB installed, they could still get a wet weight under 5.6 tonnes. Of course, the lighter (& smaller) 6LXCT was lighter again, and I would wager there were lots more of these sold. Incidentally, the Super B was the model ERF finally provided a cowl on the back of the day cab to cover-up the back two cylinders… 
Hello all. Specs for the Super B Series Lghtweight as follows.
36 Tonne lightweight
Rolls Royce 265L UW 5.374kg
■■■■■■■ NT250 UW 5.450kg
Gardner 6LXCT230 UW 5.114kg
38 Tonne lightweight
Rolls Royce 265L/290L UW 5.485kg
■■■■■■■ NT250/290 UW 5.563kg/5.660kg
Gardner 8LXC265 UW 5.557kg
As stated in ERF litriture circa 1981 ‘ERF Trailblazer’ campaign.
Interesting that people seem to rate the Perkins eagle/Tx, whereas elsewhere on
this site,the early Rolls Eagles get a slating
Hi Kev here’s a test on the two EC’s Perkins and ■■■■■■■ . Tony
Kev73:
Interesting that people seem to rate the Perkins eagle/Tx, whereas elsewhere on
this site,the early Rolls Eagles get a slating
When we moved up to 38 tonnes we had 2 ERFs powered by the Rolls 290 on long term demo we had a 290 Big cam ■■■■■■■ and a 8 pot Gardner ERF as well out of the 3 the Gardner powered ERF was overall the best performer regarding fuel and weight the Rolls was very thirsty as was the ■■■■■■■ and because we put so much mileage on the demos we were obliged to buy them at a decent discounted price but after about 2 years we had to put new piston and liners in the Rolls because the liners went porous but give them their credit Rolls did pay towards the cost but because we did great mileage it put our fleet engineer off them we didn’t have any more Rolls/Perkins until about 10 years later when we bought 12 EC 12s after yet another extensive trial and I thought they were great lorries
One for the 14 litre fans . Tony
marky:
gazsa401:
240 Gardner:
marky:
Dan Punchard:
I haven’t seen many b series with the smaller type rear window normaly found on the c series,the deep window was great for backing under a trailer.They were sold as the ‘Super B-Series’ and were built to be as light as possible. The back panel of the cab was essentially that of the C-Series, with ERF cottoning-on to the fact that plastic is lighter than glass - so the size of the window was shrunk. I believe the RR265L and Gardner 8LXB-engined versions of this (what was essentially) cross-over tractor were capable of tareing-off at less than 5.6 tonnes.
Was it the 8LXB, Mark, or the 6LXCT, that was marketed as super light?
it was the ones fitted with the 6LXCTs we ran about 20 day cabbed C Series weighing in at about 5 1/2 ton we used some of them on shunting between Melton Mowbray and our depot in Nottingham on a Pedigree pet food contract we had they were so light that even with a curtainsider we could carry just over 21 tonnes and with a 40 foot flat nearly 22 tonnes not bad for 4 axle artic they gave us great service a bit slow on the hills but superb on fuel and reliability most of them were kept for up to 12 years on other work we had and were double and even tripled trunked
they did enormous mileage with very little engine trouble other than injectors and the odd head gasket mind you they did get over regular oil changes and we used top grade engine oil which was expensive but it turn out to be cheaper in the long run not like the L10 ■■■■■■■ we used but that’s another storyThey were both available as options on the Super B-Series Chris. I was just making the point that even with the larger 8LXB installed, they could still get a wet weight under 5.6 tonnes. Of course, the lighter (& smaller) 6LXCT was lighter again, and I would wager there were lots more of these sold. Incidentally, the Super B was the model ERF finally provided a cowl on the back of the day cab to cover-up the back two cylinders…
Pity Guy didn’t think of that 
Has any one drove an EC with the Samt semi auto box ? Is it good or bad ? Tony
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