What is all the fuss about here! When your Job involves being a driver, be it Trucker or Van or whatever, should you be consuming alcohol? If one considers them self as responsible and professional in what they do for a living are they not suppose to be disciplined to know what is the correct thing to do?
If one must have a drink then it should be at home or when not at work and even then you must be careful of how much you get down your neck! the simple answer is to give it up then there is no issue at all.
Technically, you are in charge of a vehicle until u discharge yourself. It’s all a bit onerous but that’s why the prosecution isn’t drunk whilst driving, and is worded in charge of a vehicle. But in the real world, if u go out on a Friday night , having left your car at home, and no intention to drive, they don’t prosecute u.
There was a case 10 years ago that a bus driver broke down, went for a few swift jars in weather spoons, as it was going to be a recovery job, and as he was still in control of the bus, did get prosecuted. He did appeal and got it quashed with mitigation, something like, if he had been at the bus he was still able to maintain security of the bus, and direct traffic and the public of the obviously broken down vehicle.
It’s nothing to do with keys, seats , or if your even within 100 miles of the vehicle.
There was also a guy in nottingham that attended court as police stopped him from gettin in his car, bladdered. His mitigation was that he was gettin his gloves hat and coat as it was winter, to walk home in, it made the papers as it wasn’t his car he was trying to get into, but the same model Volvo, his was parked another 300 mtrs up the road, but you can still be done for ‘drink driving’. It’s the only GB law that your guilty of until proven innocent.
war1974:
cant for the life of me see why any hgv driver would want to drink when they are driving such a vehicle the next day?
no wonder the public have such a dim view of the industry.
You are confusing ‘getting ■■■■■■■ with having a drink mate.
If I have a pint with my supper, and then drive the next day after a daily rest period, what is the problem, and don’t give me this delayed reaction after any small amount of alcohol after a night’s sleep brainwash/■■■■■■■■ put about by the anti drink do gooders either.
HAIRYGORILLA:
how does this work say,for a motorhome driver ,has a drink parked up in a laybye.does the same rules apply .ok he /she may be asleep but has keys in his possesion, can they still get fined
if the plobber plod decides to do you(and he will) itl still be a court case and take your chance. unless your on totally private ground your liable to get charged once you come to the attention of plod and he decides your commiting an offence. if you can say someone else is away with the keys,then you have a good chance as they need to see the keys somewhere in the van,though they will no doubt be holding you till they can confirm,or disprove your excuse…followed by a wasting police time,trying to pervert justice etc,and lying through your teeth to plod.its basicaaly just down to luck and chance as to whether you get a dig or not,depending on where you park,and how much of a cretin the cop is.
war1974:
cant for the life of me see why any hgv driver would want to drink when they are driving such a vehicle the next day?
Because alcohol is just like crack, it’s both physically and mentally addictive, addicts need their fix…
Somebody else that has trouble differentiating between alcohol and alcohol abuse
As I responded to your mate that there was nothing wrong in having a small amount with a meal prior to next morning driving, I do hope that you are not referring to that as MY
‘fix’
some would reckon that if yucant stay completely off the drink for a month and don’t take any for any reason whatsoever,then your alcohol dependant,its only a question of degree.most that are,will use any excuse to justify it. my mate recently found out that for the last 30 years,both him and his misses are alcoholics according to government guidelines… they found it quite funny,as they mabey have a beer most evenings,and a half bottle and a Cpl of beers between them at the weekends… just a question of degree.the difference is that drink and ■■■■ addicts have been around for so long,its acceptable,plus the government make fortunes from duty,whereas drug addicts are seen in a different light,
I dont drink at all. Never touch the stuff. Nothing to do with a moral high horse,I just cant handle it. One beer and I feel the effects (Hell,a packet of wine gums and I need a lie down!)
But the reaction by some people when I say I don’t drink at all is akin to going into their house on Christmas day and ■■■■■■■ on their kids. Its a look of total shock and bewildement.
If someone wants a few drinks,even if they want to get totally bladdered,then as long as they are not causing a nusience to anyone,getting violent and don’t intend to drive then Its no one else’s business. Even that old argument about using NHS resources is moot since the tax on alcohol goes towards it,not to mention every other (zb) tax someone pays. So they are,in my eyes anyway,paying for the NHS anyway
It says a lot about todays culture that someone who DOESN’T want to drink alcohol is considered the daft one
Slightly off topic,but i watched a few of those police custody type programs over christmas.
■■■■ me…some of those kids are stoned for three days
Wtf are they taking
war1974:
cant for the life of me see why any hgv driver would want to drink when they are driving such a vehicle the next day?
no wonder the public have such a dim view of the industry.
You are confusing ‘getting ■■■■■■■ with having a drink mate.
If I have a pint with my supper, and then drive the next day after a daily rest period, what is the problem, and don’t give me this delayed reaction after any small amount of alcohol after a night’s sleep brainwash/■■■■■■■■ put about by the anti drink do gooders either.
i get your point rob but i have seen ( although years ago) drivers ■■■■■■■■■ in truckstop bars then getting a few hours sleep and setting off again, which to me is stupid at best.
war1974:
cant for the life of me see why any hgv driver would want to drink when they are driving such a vehicle the next day?
no wonder the public have such a dim view of the industry.
You are confusing ‘getting ■■■■■■■ with having a drink mate.
If I have a pint with my supper, and then drive the next day after a daily rest period, what is the problem, and don’t give me this delayed reaction after any small amount of alcohol after a night’s sleep brainwash/■■■■■■■■ put about by the anti drink do gooders either.
i get your point rob but i have seen ( although years ago) drivers [zb] in truckstop bars then getting a few hours sleep and setting off again, which to me is stupid at best.
Yeh seen it myself also, as well as on the overnight ferries. I suppose at least over there they park you up on the dock until you are clear, (or at least they used to?) but it’s the ones that get through the net that is the problem. What gets me are the ones on here that get all menstrual about a lad who has a pint or two with a meal at night.
I ain’t an alky as was mildly implied by a certain one on here as I can, and have, gone without a pint for weeks, it’s just that I enjoy a drink now and again.
Somebody else that has trouble differentiating between alcohol and alcohol abuse
