Driving with headphones

robroy:

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Should be illegal :exclamation:
As should be talking on the phone with or without a hands free kit :exclamation:

People die or suffer life altering injuries every single day, just for the sake of some BS phone call that could easily wait :exclamation:

I agree let’s make everything illegal whilst driving, think of the murderous carnage while listening to Popmaster on R2, the perils of eating a banana, the mayhem when rolling a bogey, and the ultimate irresponsible unnforgivable act of scratching your arse. :open_mouth:
Disgraceful, ban it all, I’m off to ring my MP and start a petition.

I doubt if you have the mental capacity to multitask any of those things; as you seem to have the maturity of a 6 year old :exclamation:

They can’t do it as their brains haven’t properly developed at that age :exclamation:

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robroy:

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Should be illegal :exclamation:
As should be talking on the phone with or without a hands free kit :exclamation:

People die or suffer life altering injuries every single day, just for the sake of some BS phone call that could easily wait :exclamation:

I agree let’s make everything illegal whilst driving, think of the murderous carnage while listening to Popmaster on R2, the perils of eating a banana, the mayhem when rolling a bogey, and the ultimate irresponsible unnforgivable act of scratching your arse. :open_mouth:
Disgraceful, ban it all, I’m off to ring my MP and start a petition.

I doubt if you have the mental capacity to multitask any of those things; as you seem to have the maturity of a 6 year old :exclamation:

They can’t do it as their brains haven’t properly developed at that age :exclamation:

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Seriously?
Cmon mate that’s a pretty feeble attempt at an insult, I’m sure you could do better if you really tried.
What’s up have you suddenlly realised the futility of your last post so trying to regain a bit of credibility or what? :smiley:

You mention brains…obviously yours has been seriously washed judging by that last statement of official corporate type bull ■■■■.
Yeh, ban it or tax it, the answer to everything.
Have a nice day. :wink: x

Totally agree with Op. Dangerous in many ways.

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P Stoff:
Totally agree with Op. Dangerous in many ways.

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Nice to know some realise the dangers and how distracting a lot of these devices can be.

My biggest pet hate is drivers reversing with them in. If someone shouted a warning they would not hear and the end result is damage or injury. No excuse

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jakethesnake:

Rjan:
In my view, audible feedback is an important sense that the driver has - not just the truck driver, but any driver or person on the road. I no more wear headphones at the wheel than I do when walking the street. Yes, it can mostly be compensated for by extra concentration and visual observation, but it’s harder work and less reliable - just like lipreading is hardly any substitute for hearing.

As for driving not being a skilled job, what is a skilled job in your view? It’s no less involved overall than plumbing or carpentry, say, which are generally considered to be skilled.

Totally agree with you first view. Not quite so sure about the second though! It’s a different kind of involvement and dare I say it not so skilled.

You could argue that jobs involving reading and writing are not so skilled, if you overlook the years of training, expense, and almost singular dedication that go into getting people to read and write properly.

It takes years and costs hundreds of thousands of pounds overall to put kids through formal education even just to secondary level, and when I talk of singular dedication, kids go through that process without being expected to perform a full-time productive job or manage a household at the same time. Some still leave without being great at it, even when special efforts are made - some because they’re just not suited to it at all, others because their circumstances derail the schooling process and are never addressed.

The real difference between plumbing and carpentry is that most of our dads were not plumbers or carpenters and you rarely see the work done or what tools and techniques it involves, and if you became one then you often came to it fresh when you left school (except the odd woodwork class).

Whereas most of us learn the principles of the roads from a young age, spend lots of time travelling in vehicles (if only the school bus, but certainly enough to grasp what the driver is doing, what main controls he has, and so forth), have a car licence and some driving experience before we have a HGV licence, etc.

In the forces where you might go straight to HGV, you’re given months of up-front training and extensive further supervision. You’re not just put through a few weeks training at 18, then thrown the keys of a truck and told to take it to Germany on your own, because too many lads would come a cropper before they got there - or would get there too slowly.

Take an experienced and confident car driver, and you can get a wagon to move safely enough with a week’s training, but there’s a lot more to a driver’s job than a week’s training, including the fact that you’re self-selecting, the tacit knowledge of the roads that you bring to the training already, and the mountain of associated knowledge you gain on the job of special equipment, particular sites, unusual situations, and proper judgments, which all allow you to work effectively on your own.

Put a person with already reasonable dexterity in front of timber or pipework for 40 solid hours, and they’ll undoubtedly be able to chisel a basic joint or solder two pieces together, but given a normal day’s work they’ll either make too many mistakes, do it too slowly, or require almost constant attention from an experienced man.

I have a lot to say on this because it’s obvious that this narrative about “unskilled work” is mainly used to try and argue that workers who do such allegedly “unskilled” work shouldn’t be paid reasonable wages to do it.

SJB:
Headphones with the volume set sensibly, or just the one bud in, is not much different to having the radio on in the cab.
I used to use some very good earplugs when on the motorbike, a common practice to protect your hearing from wind noise, and I still found I could hear traffic sounds just fine, it just capped the maximum loudness and filtered ‘rushing noise’. I experienced similar when I used headphones occasionally. It’s all about the volume, and you have no way to know what the driver has set that to.

A very astute and erudite observation.You are, as myself,a biker/trucker hybrid -a ■■■■■■ :angry: