Driving out of scope

Hi All

Last week the firm took on 4 new drivers, 2 x class 2 and 2 car licence only.
This morning the 2 class 2 drivers were told to drive 2, 3 axle rigids from our depot in Ashford, Kent to another depot near Southampton.
They were told that they didn’t digi cards coz they were driving “out of scope”!! How does this work?
I had previously driven one of these trucks back from Germany, the trucks having come ‘off hire’. I had to use my digi card for that journey.
The two trucks are both 10 plated and for use on and off road and fitted with digi tacho units.

Help please…are the company operating legally?

asbach:
Hi All

Last week the firm took on 4 new drivers, 2 x class 2 and 2 car licence only.
This morning the 2 class 2 drivers were told to drive 2, 3 axle rigids from our depot in Ashford, Kent to another depot near Southampton.
They were told that they didn’t digi cards coz they were driving “out of scope”!! How does this work?
I had previously driven one of these trucks back from Germany, the trucks having come ‘off hire’. I had to use my digi card for that journey.
The two trucks are both 10 plated and for use on and off road and fitted with digi tacho units.

Help please…are the company operating legally?

leaseurope.org/uploads/docum … 071112.pdf

It seems that they are operating quite legally, possibly in Germany as well, Certainly in France as this document shows.

leaseurope.org/uploads/docum … ulaire.pdf

Even if the guys involved are employed as drivers…not mechanics?
I am employed as a driver within the same company and have to use my digi card on ALL jobs, be it in UK or Europe.

asbach:
Even if the guys involved are employed as drivers…not mechanics?
I am employed as a driver within the same company and have to use my digi card on ALL jobs, be it in UK or Europe.

truck rental companies are under no obligation to use the tachograph for their internal trips (such as maintenance, repair, washing, fuelling, movement between locations, delivery, pick-up, etc.). This is because, according to the European Commission, such trips fall outside the scope of Regulation (EC) 561/2006 on drivers’ hours as truck rental companies’ jockeys/mechanics who are on an internal trip are not ‘drivers engaged in the carriage of goods and passengers’.

That is how I read this.

And this! see section 2 about agency drivers

fta.co.uk/export/sites/fta/_ … on-DfT.pdf

Wheel Nut:

asbach:
Even if the guys involved are employed as drivers…not mechanics?
I am employed as a driver within the same company and have to use my digi card on ALL jobs, be it in UK or Europe.

truck rental companies are under no obligation to use the tachograph for their internal trips (such as maintenance, repair, washing, fuelling, movement between locations, delivery, pick-up, etc.). This is because, according to the European Commission, such trips fall outside the scope of Regulation (EC) 561/2006 on drivers’ hours as truck rental companies’ jockeys/mechanics who are on an internal trip are not ‘drivers engaged in the carriage of goods and passengers’.

That is how I read this.

And this! see section 2 about agency drivers

fta.co.uk/export/sites/fta/_ … on-DfT.pdf

Does that mean that having dropped my truck into the dealers on my way past on a friday afternoon, I could call in the dealership on my way home from a weekend away with the family to bring my truck home from service/inspection & it not count as driving/duty??

BB

Basilbrush:
Does that mean that having dropped my truck into the dealers on my way past on a friday afternoon, I could call in the dealership on my way home from a weekend away with the family to bring my truck home from service/inspection & it not count as driving/duty??

BB

If you went directly home after dropping the truck off then you need to record the time from the dealer to home as other work. If they bring the truck to you at home then your duty would start from there. If that is what you meant by your question, I am a bit unclear but then I am ■■■■■■■