I have no idea if there is any truth to this, but thought it worthy of further exploration and discussion amongst any drivers out there who use driving agencies.
I was informed by a seemingly reliable source, that most agencies work with a company that I believe is called DPOL or D-Pol, and this umbrella type agency, holds records on workers, and advises the agency who NOT to use. Allegedly, the company also sources work and passes it down to 2nd-tier agencies who then place drivers, who are first referenced with DPOL (I may have the spelling wrong)
Has anyone else heard of this company, I can’t find anything on a basic Google search, but that maybe because the name is wrong or spelled incorrectly.
Thank you
Dapol…
I was offered terms with them some years ago but, I was already Ltd and had no intention of using them or any other brolly/tax avoidance scheme.
All I heard was bad things about them but, that was par for the course with any brolly company.
They are called dePoel. http://www.depoel.co.uk
And the point of them is…?
An agency within an agency…?
They are one of the main reasons quite a large number of agencies pay the same crap hourly rate, as they sign a contract of supply at ‘standard pay and charge rates’.
Goldfinger:
And the point of them is…?
An agency within an agency…?
To rip off more of your hard earned…
monkeynuts:
They are one of the main reasons quite a large number of agencies pay the same crap hourly rate, as they sign a contract of supply at ‘standard pay and charge rates’.
Do you think thats fair and just? Once upon a time it could be reported to the Office Of Fair Trading, but that no longer exists. There is however the CMA, the The Competition And markets Authority. Their web site explains about what is and isn
t anti competitive including
"Businesses agreeing not to compete with one another (‘cartels’)
This is one of the major types of anti-competitive activity by businesses that you can report to the CMA. A cartel is where 2 or more businesses agree not to compete with each other. It covers the following types of activities:
Price-fixing - businesses must not discuss the prices they’re going to charge their customers with their competitors.
Bid-rigging - businesses can’t discuss bids for a contract tender with their competitors.
Market-sharing - businesses can’t agree to share markets or customers.
Sharing information - information can’t be shared between businesses that might reduce competition between them (eg information about prices or suppliers)."
Im sure I don
t know whether or not what is being discussed here does or doesn`t fall under that description.
I think you’re forgetting that we have ‘pro business’ governments, so I’m sure they have a loophole or exception they can utilize…
And I think they would prefer to visualise themselves as a central hub for businesses to access, saving time and money!
Evil8Beezle:
I think you’re forgetting that we have ‘pro business’ governments, so I’m sure they have a loophole or exception they can utilize…
And I think they would prefer to visualise themselves as a central hub for businesses to access, saving time and money!
They can visualise themselves as saviours of poor hard put upon employers who cant afford to pay a COMPETITIVE rate to get employees. I/you/we all, may differ in that visualisation. Should there be a competition to post how we visualise them.... And I know I
m well out of that league of posters, but do enjoy seeing what you and others offer up.
To quote Claude Raines “Round up the usual suspects”.
I think you’re misconstruing my cynicism about the whole debacle. I think it’s wrong, but know that complaining about it won’t make a jot of difference to what our government decides is best. We like to think we matter once every 4 or 5 years, but in reality don’t, as the media has a veto to make that decision. The rest of the time we are just spun bollox by them, and we as an electorate ■■■■ it up again and again.
So I’m not criticizing you in anyway, as I don’t disagree with you, I just can’t be arsed to get upset about it…
TrackTrucker:
Has anyone else heard of this company, I can’t find anything on a basic Google search, but that maybe because the name is wrong or spelled incorrectly.
DePoel have been mentioned on this site plenty of times over the years.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9464
A search will throw up a lot more discussions where dePoel are mentioned.
dePoel search results
and i do believe that HMRC are working on closing these tax avoidance schemes called umbrella companies
personally i am all for it. I must also say that i have never ever worked for an agency, and never would.
Evil8Beezle:
I think you’re misconstruing my cynicism about the whole debarkle. I think it’s wrong, but know that complaining about it won’t make a jot of difference to what our government decides is best. We like to think we matter once every 4 or 5 years, but in reality don’t, as the media has a veto to make that decision. The rest of the time we are just spun bollox by them, and we as an electorate ■■■■ it up again and again.
So I’m not criticizing you in anyway, as I don’t disagree with you, I just can’t be arsed to get upset about it…
Im sure we are in agreement about the companies that are so valuable in supplying temporary labour at ...... I can
t find suitable terms here…rates. I did think youd recognise my standpoint, and I do see your
s too. Sad that being a driver has knocked all the fight out of you so soon.
I reckon your “Dad” will be disappointed, young lad.
monkeynuts:
Franglais:
monkeynuts:
They are one of the main reasons quite a large number of agencies pay the same crap hourly rate, as they sign a contract of supply at ‘standard pay and charge rates’.
Do you think that`s fair and just?
Short answer? No.
Slightly longer answer: ####ing NO !
Franglais:
Evil8Beezle:
I think you’re misconstruing my cynicism about the whole debarkle. I think it’s wrong, but know that complaining about it won’t make a jot of difference to what our government decides is best. We like to think we matter once every 4 or 5 years, but in reality don’t, as the media has a veto to make that decision. The rest of the time we are just spun bollox by them, and we as an electorate ■■■■ it up again and again.
So I’m not criticizing you in anyway, as I don’t disagree with you, I just can’t be arsed to get upset about it…
Im sure we are in agreement about the companies that are so valuable in supplying temporary labour at ...... I can
t find suitable terms here…rates. I did think youd recognise my standpoint, and I do see your
s too. Sad that being a driver has knocked all the fight out of you so soon.
I reckon your “Dad” will be disappointed, young lad.
I again wouldn’t disagree that my dad would be disappointed, but that’s long since past.
And my general cynicism is life experience sadly…
We both know that we as drivers, we’ll never be able to dictate the rates, whether we have a potential cartel in power or not. Rates will only ever be forced to tow the line within a capitalist infrastructure, when demand outstrips supply. As Harry keeps saying…
At that point I don’t see how a cartel could keep control in suppressing wages, and as such they become a mute point.
So while I think it’s a crap setup for us all, I also see that I’ll only get paid more, only when there is a real driver shortage, cartel or not!
Franglais:
monkeynuts:
Franglais:
monkeynuts:
They are one of the main reasons quite a large number of agencies pay the same crap hourly rate, as they sign a contract of supply at ‘standard pay and charge rates’.
Do you think that`s fair and just?
Short answer? No.
Slightly longer answer: ####ing NO !
My slightly longer answer would probably get me banned. Or something.
truckyboy:
and i do believe that HMRC are working on closing these tax avoidance schemes called umbrella companies
personally i am all for it. I must also say that i have never ever worked for an agency, and never would.
De Poel are nothing to do with umbrella schemes. They’re much more of a rip off than that.