Driving a Double Decker Bus converted to a Bar on My Class 2

Would it be possible to register a truck as a bus. Say you converted a rigid or even an artic into a passenger carrying vehicle. Could you register it as a PSV and crank the limiter up to 62 ?

When I see those prisoner transport vehicles they look much more truck like than bus like in origin.The smaller buses are really converted lorries,those front engined jobs from Mercedes Varios and Plaxton Cheetas.Etc.The bigger buses and coaches are usually rear engined so nothing like a lorry.

The prisoner vans are basically trucks with holding cells in the back. (I was once, many years ago, done for drunk and disorderly) :blush:

Terry T:
Would it be possible to register a truck as a bus. Say you converted a rigid or even an artic into a passenger carrying vehicle. Could you register it as a PSV and crank the limiter up to 62 ?

You could register a lorry as a private bus, even that would not be easy. , but there would just really be too many hoops to jump through to register it as a PSV. This would imply carrying passengers and it would need a COIF, Certificate Of Initial Fitness before it can be used and tested. If you reckons a lorry MOT is involved, then just watch a bus being examined. It always used to be the TOs who did the bus tests.

tachograph:

wildfire:
Tacho would he get away from not having to do his dcpc using the exemption that driving is not his main job, i.e he is a barman, the same way as a scaffolder does? Just an idea

I think he would be on very thin ice on that one, he’s not transporting goods for his own use in his job or trade, he’s transporting goods to sell so I think he will need to complete the DCPC.

If he’s carrying goods supplied by third parties he’ll need full o licence, not restricted, as he will be carrying goods that is not owned by his company, but if he supply’s the goods he can run on restricted o licence, but he would still require a dcpc.

blueroom1:

Numbum:
I bought an old 1940 bus in 1972 that had been used by a showman as a van towing his caravan behind. It was plated as an HGV and I rebuilt it to its original condition and it is now registered as a heavy motor car with 56 seats.
I have never had a PCV licence but me or anyone else with an older car licence can drive it or any other old bus over thirty years old with a maximum of 8 passengers but not for hire or reward. Thats if they can manage a crash gearbox.You also do not need to attend the dumbo lessons.
The law is an ■■■ again when a person not used to outdated vacuum brakes can drive this bus with 8 passengers but can not drive a modern PCV registered bus empty.

Thanks for all the help, So I will brush off the C class licence and book the last two modules for the test.
Any body want to tackle the tachograph questions ? will I need it? I’m only delivering it to the location and not using it as a bus so does the driver need to use it ?
minefield of red tape.
also will my trade insurance cover the one the road stuff as I do have a set of trade plates, can i use those for delivering the bus to customers / sites ? more questions I know , :smiley:

You will be driving a HGV so yes you will need tacho, its the weight.

tachograph:

wildfire:
Tacho would he get away from not having to do his dcpc using the exemption that driving is not his main job, i.e he is a barman, the same way as a scaffolder does? Just an idea

I think he would be on very thin ice on that one, he’s not transporting goods for his own use in his job or trade, he’s transporting goods to sell so I think he will need to complete the DCPC.

Profit or reward = DCPC

sling in a bunkbed and test it as a happy camper albeit with a large bar…does that not get you round the tacho guff? you will never get away with trade plates.absolutely not.

The fact that he is trading and the weight of the vehicle means a tacho has to be used.

sweeper1gg:

tachograph:

wildfire:
Tacho would he get away from not having to do his dcpc using the exemption that driving is not his main job, i.e he is a barman, the same way as a scaffolder does? Just an idea

I think he would be on very thin ice on that one, he’s not transporting goods for his own use in his job or trade, he’s transporting goods to sell so I think he will need to complete the DCPC.

Profit or reward = DCPC

Full o licence CPC to operate. plus a DCPC

Driver-Once-More:
The prisoner vans are basically trucks with holding cells in the back. (I was once, many years ago, done for drunk and disorderly) :blush:

do you have any more intelligent facts such as this which you feel the need to share :question: