Hej Steve sounds like my Danglish be on par with yours mate! Don’t know where you are but I sat mine in Esbjerg a few years ago and passed haha! Think next one has to be done by Scania Kolding which I shall gladly attend. DSV did send me to Harwich depot for the ADR course though as I said I’d struggle with that in Dansk even tho it’s a multi choice exam. Good luck anyhow.
The DVSA system used by training providers has recently been upgraded to allow the trainer to enter a non GB licence number and upload the data paying the normal upload fee. The trainer issues a certificate with the non GB licence number etc on it.
The driver then requests a form DQC1 - sends that with certificates and Danish licence to DVSA. DVSA then issue a UK DQC. Driver goes to Denmark and exchanges for Danish DQC (or code 95 on licence if that’s what Denmark do - I don’t know).
The trainer does not know if the driver really lives in the UK and does not have to even take an address (stupid really).
As far as I can see this will work fine. It will be simpler than exchanging licences to UK etc.
I have emailed JAUPT to confirm but they can take 15 days to reply to an email (useless). The only thing I suspect may go wrong is this thing about 1 day must be taken in the country of origin or something like that - but I can’t find anything about that in the instructions DVSA sent to trainers. And Iant see how a trainer could check that.
I still don’t understand why the OP is faffing about between the countries re the DCPC.If you live 13 yrs in DK your Danish must be at least up to schoolboy standard which should be sufficient,especially as some Danish drivers will not be much better academically.And if,as you say you have multiple houses,bikes,etc then you have interacted a lot with the bureaucracy.
I live here in the middle of nowhere and speak to people only every other week,and after 7 yrs here was able to do the course in Swedish without problems.I Think this applies to the most ex pats who live in other countries.If you live,work there and socialise with the people you can do a simple course.
Just can’t get my head round that after 13 years you don’t speak the language like a native, inexcuseable,
Ok. Lets deal with the language bit, especially for those who have never been to Denmark.
Denmark is not like England. If you go into Lidls in the middle of Denmark and talk to the till girl in English she will talk back to you in English. I have worked in the sail making Industry for 13 years and we have about 8 different nationalities and we all speak English. Everything is written in English. The international language of sail making is English.
I can get by in Danish and could probably sit in a classroom for 5 days and get by. But I would like to get more out of it than that. I dont care about not speaking fluent Danish, very few foreigners do, regardless of how long you live here. This is the first time it has had any effect on me at all.
The other problem taking the CPC in the UK is that it may not be recognised in Denmark. Here they have the EU kvalifikationsbeviser. You would think you could turn up in Denmark with your CPC and switch it for the Danish card but I bet it is not that simple.
Short walk. Im in Haderslev. How did you do your ADR in the UK? You need a UK licence. I think I need to get one.
Surely that’s a bit of a cop out re the English thing.Yes,many of the Scandinavian people speak fluent English and like to speak it,[they are in the top 5 fluency as a second language]but if you interact with them on a Daily basis and no matter how you mangle the Words,you speak back to them in their language then your fluency will improve.We have all had this problem in the beginning,especially in Scandinavia and Holland[where i lived for 30yrs].
You sound as if you are lazy or dumb,niether of which is possible because as an ex pat you don’t last long in a foreign country if you are either.We all have moved to other places out of choice so it behoves us to fit in if we want to improve our lives and contribute to the Place we have moved to.
As regards the DCPC,do it in Danish,you already have a Danish license,maybe it will give you a boost to see that you have done it and if you struggle then you have to study more therefore Learning more.
I think we have lost the plot here and gone on to telling me that I should learn Danish.
Let me make it a bit clearer. I really dont give a toss about learning Danish. I didnt when I arrived and I dont 13 years later. I have managed perfectly well and have a wonderful life with all the trappings that go with it. I was exactly the same for the 8 years I lived in Germany before that. It is a personal choice and I am happy with it. I am neither lazy or dumb. But made a personal choice, which I am entitled to do.
But this thread is about cross border learning and not about me learning Danish.
But just so we know. It does look like I will be taking the course in Denmark. We are in the EU and the CPC card may or may not be accepted over here. Every time I speak to a training establishment on either side of the water, their favourite phrases seems to be “I think”. But nobody knows.
Can you use a foreign licence to get a CPC in the UK. Probably. Will it be accepted or exchanged abroad. Possibly not. If it isnt you may still be able to drive but 5 years later you have to go through the same process again.
steveindenmark:
Ok. Lets deal with the language bit, especially for those who have never been to Denmark.Denmark is not like England. If you go into Lidls in the middle of Denmark and talk to the till girl in English she will talk back to you in English. I have worked in the sail making Industry for 13 years and we have about 8 different nationalities and we all speak English. Everything is written in English. The international language of sail making is English.
I can get by in Danish and could probably sit in a classroom for 5 days and get by. But I would like to get more out of it than that. I dont care about not speaking fluent Danish, very few foreigners do, regardless of how long you live here. This is the first time it has had any effect on me at all.
The other problem taking the CPC in the UK is that it may not be recognised in Denmark. Here they have the EU kvalifikationsbeviser. You would think you could turn up in Denmark with your CPC and switch it for the Danish card but I bet it is not that simple.
Short walk. Im in Haderslev. How did you do your ADR in the UK? You need a UK licence. I think I need to get one.
Excuses, excuses, you didn’t learn German before that either, right ! Oh you English, never learn the host country language or take its citizenship
Just teasing you mate, relax. Frankly its non of anyone business if someone learn the language or not as long as he/she can go by with no problems.
You have to check about the ADR, I asked DVSA and they said my BG ADR is valid all over EU, including UK and can not be exchanged, so you might be able to get UK ADR on DK licence.
My advice is check with DVSA, because there is a chance you can do ADR in UK.
Dolph,
Its funny but nobody asked my dad to learn Danish when he came here. Mind you he did get here about 6 hours before the Russians in 1945. So maybe he was excempt.
I got an email from DVSA today. They stated that I can complete the course in the UK on my Danish licence. I then complete the DQC with a UK address and they will send the card there with my Danish licence number on. They stated that the CPC card is recognised all over Europe. Just as the French, Danish etc cards are recognised in the UK.
The Danish course is 5 days and covers the same topics as the UK course.
steveindenmark:
Dolph,Its funny but nobody asked my dad to learn Danish when he came here. Mind you he did get here about 6 hours before the Russians in 1945. So maybe he was excempt.
I got an email from DVSA today. They stated that I can complete the course in the UK on my Danish licence. I then complete the DQC with a UK address and they will send the card there with my Danish licence number on. They stated that the CPC card is recognised all over Europe. Just as the French, Danish etc cards are recognised in the UK.
The Danish course is 5 days and covers the same topics as the UK course.
Oh please don’t involve the war, coz Carryfast will come soon after and the whole thread will be kaboom
Thats the best way(dvsa info), no matter what anyone tells you most cases are specific and only the issuing authority can answer you.
I’ve been told by DVLA and DVSA EU doc’s are valid in UK, but in the same time I’ve been told by friends working there that UK employers demand UK doc’s, especially the big companies.
On that note will your employer in Denmark demand you exchange to DK CPC? Because if Im not mistaken you said that DK required some CPC hours be taken in Danish language if CPC is exchanged from another EU country.
OK Steve my ADR is a UK one, the Scottish Qualifications Board who issue them did ask the course admin at DSV a few questions but that’s all. As an aside if you’re paying for it yourself think it’s a lot cheaper here, just attend and go with the flow. Scania Kolding course does include a bit of economical driving and other practical lessons apparently so not all death by viewfoil in a stuffy classroom.