commonrail:
Harry Monk:
Why would a police officer nick and process somebody who had no intention of driving, knowing that the case would be thrown out by the courts on the grounds that he had no intention of driving?
because there are a lot of plod that don`t actually know the law.i got banged up after being ■■■■■■ whilst being asleep in my van with the engine running.
got thrown out of court though 
pig prick.
and again…just this weekend,a group of us have been up scotland motorcycling and the usual routine when returning to the hotel was to park the bikes and have a couple of pints outside before going upstairs to shower.
anyway,on saturday plod pulls up and sits watching us for a couple of hours…then drives into the car park,sitting behind the bikes,so we go round to see what the problem is.out he gets and reckons he could do us for drunk in charge coz we are still in leathers… what a total ■■■■■.
That’s Scotland. There under another LAW compared to English coppers as we are under PACE and there not.
If they did do you then they must of been bored watching you for 2 hours outside a pub 
tachograph:
The problem with the drink drive law today is the same as what’s wrong with so many things today, someone once thought it a good idea to stop people driving whilst drunk and of course it was a good idea, but like so many other things is society the extremists and holier than thou brigade took the idea and ran with it
Why should it be illegal to be over the limit in a vehicle if you’re not driving haven’t been driving and have no intention of driving?
Road Traffic Act is a bugger to get your head around things and to understand the act full stop.
mickyblue:
tachograph:
The problem with the drink drive law today is the same as what’s wrong with so many things today, someone once thought it a good idea to stop people driving whilst drunk and of course it was a good idea, but like so many other things is society the extremists and holier than thou brigade took the idea and ran with it
Why should it be illegal to be over the limit in a vehicle if you’re not driving haven’t been driving and have no intention of driving?
Road Traffic Act is a bugger to get your head around things and to understand the act full stop.
I wasn’t questioning that it is illegal to be in charge of a vehicle you’re not driving whilst over the limit, I was pointing out that it shouldn’t be.
I think that the law should be changed to Zero tolerance that way if you,ve had 1 beer then you dont drive.
It would cut out the mentality of ( well im ok with 2 pints i had a meal etc)
The only drama i could see with that is ( the Morning after). Ive seen a few of my mates caught out on this after a Regimental Function.
Weve had the Local police turn up to do a presentation in the Gym volunteers get up do the Breatherliser the day after a Function. Every single 1 Failed. It,s an eye opener when you feel fine but realise that if you got pulled your in the brown stuff.
tachograph:
mickyblue:
tachograph:
The problem with the drink drive law today is the same as what’s wrong with so many things today, someone once thought it a good idea to stop people driving whilst drunk and of course it was a good idea, but like so many other things is society the extremists and holier than thou brigade took the idea and ran with it
Why should it be illegal to be over the limit in a vehicle if you’re not driving haven’t been driving and have no intention of driving?
Road Traffic Act is a bugger to get your head around things and to understand the act full stop.
I wasn’t questioning that it is illegal to be in charge of a vehicle you’re not driving whilst over the limit, I was pointing out that it shouldn’t be.
I know you was but i was pointing out that it is a bugger to get your head around the RTA
It’s hidden within your quote…I’m on the phone,and I couldn’t get the cursor to the bottom.
I was on about the Scotland issue
Is really to much not to have any alcoholic drinks when in charge of any vehicle
as long as you dont intend driving it...cant see a problem.
nearly there:
Is really to much not to have any alcoholic drinks when in charge of any vehicle
i would say it depends on the job. away 4 nights a week, home every friday. then save the drinking to the weekend.
but then there are some that are away for several weeks, so they are bound to be parked up for at least 24 hours chilling out with a beer or a glass of wine from time to time.
I can’t see anything wrong with having a couple of beers with a meal even in the week. By the time you start work the next day it has completely dissipated.
The trouble is that we now live in a very small minded and puritanical society whereby if a person does not do something, smoke, drink, whatever, then they tend to think that nobody else should be allowed to do it either.
mickyblue:
If they did do you then they must of been bored watching you for 2 hours outside a pub
did he seriously think that we would ride off having just spent the last 2 hours boozing in full view of him.he even sent his junior oppo inside to check that we had reservations.
he then claimed that if it were traffic and not him that had seen us,we would have been charged for drunk in charge…i somehow doubt this as the night before traffic police had set up a sting in the exact same spot and were pulling random motors in for spot checks…we even got chatting to the officer in charge,and he did`nt seem concerned by our actions.
Harry Monk:
I can’t see anything wrong with having a couple of beers with a meal even in the week. By the time you start work the next day it has completely dissipated.
The trouble is that we now live in a very small minded and puritanical society whereby if a person does not do something, smoke, drink, whatever, then they tend to think that nobody else should be allowed to do it either.
It’s not that though, your still in charge of a motor vehicle on a road on a rest or not, your still in charge of said vehicle. Simples
I understand where your coming from, but like another poster said, can you go without having a few beers whilst parked up in a lay-by? drivers are only putting themselves at risk
mickyblue:
It’s not that though, your still in charge of a motor vehicle on a road on a rest or not, your still in charge of said vehicle. Simples
If you are in charge of a vehicle on a public road and are able to prove that there is no likelihood of you driving it then there is no offence committed. You even quoted the relevant law yourself in your earlier post.
just like to add i just edited my post when you replied at the same time
Ok,
I will say it again. You will be required to provide a roadside breath test, and if you fail that, you will then be arrested. You will then be processed as normal blah blah blah.
Section 5 (2) - yes that is a defence, but only at court.
A lorry is not a home in the eyes of the law, it is a Motor vehicle designed to carry goods from A to B.
