xichrisxi:
Rope and sheet■■?
D’thuks that■■?,it’s the 21st century bruv I’ve got a trailer with a roof & sides
Love how just because someone once had to tie a knot it makes him some sort of super hero,get over yourself pal…so you know how to do something that was specific to YOUR job…I’m all out of medals I’m afraid but if you pop to nobodycares.com I think they have some.
Part of the new test to get your hgv license the examiner wheels out a trolly with a selection of straps, chains and ropes on, then you’re randomly asked how to do a specific one, which might be how to to a dolly knot properly.
Which RDC did you hear this in■■?
Next time you’re on the road count how many hgvs you see that facilitate roping and sheeting I bet it’s less than 5% if hgvs on the road.
dieseldog999:
i cant be bothered looking it up,but when you are referring to those…lock over tensioners,are you meaning those things commonly referred to as …dwangs?
He’s talking about these things, it could be bloody painful if it sprung back and hit you in the face
As for dolly knots, I started on flat beds back in the 70s so couldn’t forget how to tie one even if I wanted to
nurglets:
Part of the new test to get your hgv license the examiner wheels out a trolly with a selection of straps, chains and ropes on, then you’re randomly asked how to do a specific one, which might be how to to a dolly knot properly.
Which RDC did you hear this in■■?
Next time you’re on the road count how many hgvs you see that facilitate roping and sheeting I bet it’s less than 5% if hgvs on the road.
It’s not RDC waffle, unless it’s been changed recently the dolly knot is one of the things you can be asked to do as part of the initial CPC test
dieseldog999:
own up…
if you suddenly had to swap loads,and had a flat trailer with 26 pallets to rope and sheet…assuming that you could somehow expertly or otherwise manage to cover the load up from the weather.how many of you COULDNT rope it and tie it up correctly using the normal truckie type dolly knot that you might expect everyone to know how to tie by definition of being a lorry driver in the 1st place.?
lets not go into putting the fly sheet on top and the ins and outs of whether to rope the lot before or after it goes on…
so,who cant tie a dolly knot,and if not…for what reason wouldnt you know■■?
I guess I would make a pigs ear of the sheeting as I haven’t done that for 25 years, but the Dolly Knot would be no problem, nothing to do with lorries but I still use them on a regular basis.
nurglets:
Part of the new test to get your hgv license the examiner wheels out a trolly with a selection of straps, chains and ropes on, then you’re randomly asked how to do a specific one, which might be how to to a dolly knot properly.
Which RDC did you hear this in■■?
Next time you’re on the road count how many hgvs you see that facilitate roping and sheeting I bet it’s less than 5% if hgvs on the road.
It’s not RDC waffle, unless it’s been changed recently the dolly knot is one of the things you can be asked to do as part of the initial CPC test
Can confirm passed last year and was asked to demonstrate on said trolley how to secure a load using chain and tensioner.
could tie a dolly knot in my sleep
do I think I’m a hero / god like figure - nope
Its a skill I have and one thats easy to learn and can / could pull you out of a sticky spot some day . Why wouldn’t you want to learn how ?
the nodding donkey:
It’s not a knot. It’s a hitch.
As I am an irredeemable pedant, I have no option other than to point out that the so called “DOLLY” knot, is , in fact, a variation of a Sheep Shank. A very useful knot that can be used to shorten a rope but can be shaken out afterwards. Dockers used to use it a lot to shorten rope slings.
Up here in Bonny Scotland some people call your dolly knot a “Kinch”, but we just call them tighteners.
I started on flats in '77 never done anything g else, still at it at 63, not really enjoying it anymore but will slog on for a
bit yet.
Those lock-over tensioners were bloody dangerous. Guy who I worked with told me drivers had been killed or injured using them.
Nearest mishap I had was a load of steel beams out of somewhere in Huddersfield. Went to tension on one of them, usual length of pipe on overlock bar, lost the grip and the pipe went flying down somewhere the other side of the trailer in the loading bay.
Thank god there wasn’t anyone in the firing line
Once ended up in A&E when using bar and a link slipped - got a drivers mate from another vehicle over CB to change gear back to yard as left arm no good cos it took the impact from the fall off the flatbed
Have to confess that with always driving tippers I never needed them and haven’t a clue how to tie one. Can’t see me ever needing one now but I would like to learn!
windrush:
Have to confess that with always driving tippers I never needed them and haven’t a clue how to tie one. Can’t see me ever needing one now but I would like to learn!
Pete.
Yeh. But you’re a gentleman of leisure on tippers Pete. Don’t have to get out the cab these days to open tailboard… air servos, onboard weighers…
windrush:
Have to confess that with always driving tippers I never needed them and haven’t a clue how to tie one. Can’t see me ever needing one now but I would like to learn!
Pete.
Thats the attitude to have,i can tie a dolly eyes closed but have never done blower tankers, id like to learn even though id probably never pull one…
the nodding donkey:
It’s not a knot. It’s a hitch.
As I am an irredeemable pedant, I have no option other than to point out that the so called “DOLLY” knot, is , in fact, a variation of a Sheep Shank. A very useful knot that can be used to shorten a rope but can be shaken out afterwards. Dockers used to use it a lot to shorten rope slings.
Up here in Bonny Scotland some people call your dolly knot a “Kinch”, but we just call them tighteners.
I started on flats in '77 never done anything g else, still at it at 63, not really enjoying it anymore but will slog on for a
bit yet.
It is in rope working circles know as the ‘truckers hitch’ or ‘wagonners hitch’
windrush:
Have to confess that with always driving tippers I never needed them and haven’t a clue how to tie one. Can’t see me ever needing one now but I would like to learn!
Did years of gen haul , I can do a full load old style any time rope @ sheet no prob.
Nothing better than seeing a lovely tidy rope an sheeted load rolling down the road
windrush:
Have to confess that with always driving tippers I never needed them and haven’t a clue how to tie one. Can’t see me ever needing one now but I would like to learn!
Pete.
Yeh. But you’re a gentleman of leisure on tippers Pete. Don’t have to get out the cab these days to open tailboard… air servos, onboard weighers…
Haha, I haven’t driven for almost fourteen years Simon and I never had any of those luxuries! I am a “gentleman of leisure” now though, you got that part right!
Thank’s to those who posted links etc, I will practice on the Mrs later…
I learnt this stuff back in 1975 when I did my class one with Hills of Swindon,it was part of the course. Instructors name was Jack Parker.
I definitely think I would struggle with this now, last done with Isis Construction up to mid eighties. That was the civil engineers based in Marshgate, Swindon… not the terrorist lot.
Can’t see me ever needing one now but I would like to learn! 
