Doctors On Wheels

I did my last 5 year medical with them.

Was a caravan in a layby on Knoll Hill, A21 southbound… :open_mouth:


They don’t tell you where - until you’ve paid the £50 over the phone to the posh English guy taking the money…
(It can be other places as well, of course…)

Didn’t have any problems with it though. Romanian doctor spoke good enough English, and did the full barrage of tests…
My own GP wanted £127.50 - so it was a no-brainer really.

My own GP wants £140, so I have mine this Saturday for £50 through this forums sponsor.

What ■■■■■■ me off though, is when I was self employed, it went through as an expense, but now I have to pay for it which I think is wrong. I need my licence to work and stay off benefits, (Which I have NEVER claimed.) but HMG don’t see it like that, They would rather pay me benefits, than let me claim it back through my tax code.

Ken.

Quinny:
My own GP wants £140, so I have mine this Saturday for £50 through this forums sponsor.

What ■■■■■■ me off though, is when I was self employed, it went through as an expense, but now I have to pay for it which I think is wrong. I need my licence to work and stay off benefits, (Which I have NEVER claimed.) but HMG don’t see it like that, They would rather pay me benefits, than let me claim it back through my tax code.

Ken.

It is allowable under HMRC rules…

gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manual … l/eim66190

I paid £35 for mine, done by a Dr Singh in Sheffield.

I used drs on wheels. Did the job but I’m not surprised dvla have woken up to them.

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Trading Standards and the Police are involved…

dieseldave:
Trading Standards and the Police are involved…

https://motortransport.co.uk/blog/2019/06/25/doctors-on-wheels-medicals-no-longer-acceptable-warns-dvla/

Is it just me or do webpages from Motor Transport not scroll down?

Harry Monk:

dieseldave:
Trading Standards and the Police are involved…

https://motortransport.co.uk/blog/2019/06/25/doctors-on-wheels-medicals-no-longer-acceptable-warns-dvla/

Is it just me or do webpages from Motor Transport not scroll down?

You have to create a free account to log in and read the whole articles.

DVLA’s warning follows police raids on the firm’s offices in Swindon, Leicester and Huddersfield last week as part of a trading standards investigation.

The investigation, which is being headed up by Swansea’s Trading Standards team, was triggered by claims that D4 medicals were not being completed properly by Doctors on Wheels, with unhealthy drivers being passed as fit to drive.

Doctors on Wheels operates a mobile service across the country providing D4 medicals for HGV drivers.

These are undertaken in the back of the company’s fleet of vans.

According to Companies House the directors of Doctors on Wheels are Beth and Jayne Eburne.

The company’s registered address in Leicester is shared by J Coates (HGV Services), an HGV driver training company owned by Andrew Eburne and Steven Eburne.

An employee at Doctors on Wheels declined to discuss why the company was raided but told motortransport.co.uk that whilst the company is not carrying out any D4 medicals at the moment it is “ hoping to resume D4 tests once everything is resolved”.

Asked how many D4 medicals the company carries out annually the employee said he did not have an accurate figure to hand but estimated it at “thousands”.

Motortransport.co.uk understands that DVLA was sent evidence of fraudulent medicals carried out by Doctors on Wheels in late 2018, including a number of TrustPilot reviews of the company, claiming that the medicals were cursory.

One claimed the medical was carried out by female staff who signed off the D4 using a signature stamp from a male doctor.

DVLA has also written to trade associations asking them to warn their members of the situation.

In a statement sent to trade associations including the RHA this week DVLA said: “If any applications are received at DVLA on or after 20 June 2019, they will not be accepted, and a new application will need to be submitted.

“This only applies to applications received on or after 20 June 2019, and we expect these numbers to be very low. “

“We will prioritise any applications received by those who need to resubmit another D4 as a result of these investigations. Please note we cannot reimburse any fees paid for the D4 medical report to be completed.”

The RHA is urging members not to use Doctors on Wheels for D4 medical reports and said it fully supports the DVLA action.

RHA head of licensing and infrastructure policy, Tom Coates, said: “RHA is extremely concerned about this situation and is liaising with DVLA. We hoped it will be rsolved promptly and we have alerted RHA members to this situation.”

Dr. Grant Charlesworth-Jones, medical director of D4Drivers, which provides medicals for HGV drivers, said: “It is hugely important that these D4 medical examinations are carried out by bone fide companies using fully qualified doctors, particularly as these companies can be dealing with thousands of HGV drivers a year. I cannot stress enough the need to use a reputable and trusted medical provider.

“One only has to look at the Glasgow bin lorry incident in 2014 - when the driver, who had lied about his fitness to drive, collapsed at the wheel killing six people and injuring 15 others - to know how important is to ensure HGV drivers are fully fit to drive these vehicles.”

Full article from Motortransport.co.uk posted above for anyone unable to log in to read the article.

I think the medical should be carried out by the applicants own registered practitioner, but the cost should not be a rip off …

raymundo:
I think the medical should be carried out by the applicants own registered practitioner, but the cost should not be a rip off …

If you have had the misfortune of needing a (your) GP recently, you’ll be aware how massively overstretched the GP service is. The last thing they need, apart from a quick revrnue boost, is thousands of HGV drivers coming in for a routine medical. And unless the government caps the cost, GP practices WILL use it as an inflated revenue booster.

simcor:
Motortransport.co.uk understands that DVLA was sent evidence of fraudulent medicals carried out by Doctors on Wheels in late 2018, including a number of TrustPilot reviews of the company, claiming that the medicals were cursory.

One claimed the medical was carried out by female staff who signed off the D4 using a signature stamp from a male doctor.

DVLA has also written to trade associations asking them to warn their members of the situation.

In a statement sent to trade associations including the RHA this week DVLA said: “If any applications are received at DVLA on or after 20 June 2019, they will not be accepted, and a new application will need to be submitted.

“This only applies to applications received on or after 20 June 2019, and we expect these numbers to be very low. “

“We will prioritise any applications received by those who need to resubmit another D4 as a result of these investigations. Please note we cannot reimburse any fees paid for the D4 medical report to be completed.”

The RHA is urging members not to use Doctors on Wheels for D4 medical reports and said it fully supports the DVLA action.

RHA head of licensing and infrastructure policy, Tom Coates, said: “RHA is extremely concerned about this situation and is liaising with DVLA. We hoped it will be rsolved promptly and we have alerted RHA members to this situation.”

Dr. Grant Charlesworth-Jones, medical director of D4Drivers, which provides medicals for HGV drivers, said: “It is hugely important that these D4 medical examinations are carried out by bone fide companies using fully qualified doctors, particularly as these companies can be dealing with thousands of HGV drivers a year. I cannot stress enough the need to use a reputable and trusted medical provider.

“One only has to look at the Glasgow bin lorry incident in 2014 - when the driver, who had lied about his fitness to drive, collapsed at the wheel killing six people and injuring 15 others - to know how important is to ensure HGV drivers are fully fit to drive these vehicles.”

I had my medical through doctors on wheels when I passed in October, it was at a j Coates site in the back of a converted transit van, the person carrying out the medical was indeed female and the stamp was a male doctors name! It seemed dodgy at the time as she guessed height and weight and the eye test was basically read a couple of letters of the poster on the wall of the van, it seemed to me at the time that it wasn’t a proper medical but was obviously just a company making a lot of money by being able to stamp your medical form! I’m not surprised that this has now been recognised!

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Roymondo:

Quinny:
My own GP wants £140, so I have mine this Saturday for £50 through this forums sponsor.

What ■■■■■■ me off though, is when I was self employed, it went through as an expense, but now I have to pay for it which I think is wrong. I need my licence to work and stay off benefits, (Which I have NEVER claimed.) but HMG don’t see it like that, They would rather pay me benefits, than let me claim it back through my tax code.

Ken.

It is allowable under HMRC rules…

gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manual … l/eim66190

Didnt know that.

Will be on it as soon as I have had an eye test?

Ken.

Sounds like at least one doctor is going to be losing their licence!

Started reading posts about them - it sounds like theres an awful lot of strange things going on such as using nurses when it has to be a doctor who signs the forms.

As for losing licence, that assumes they had one in the first place.

Not sure what the rules are regarding European doctors moving to the UK (I know from outside they have to pass numerous tests). Wouldn’t be surprised if the EU has made it too easy to move.

Form P87 for claiming it back as an employee, according to HMRC after I phoned them.

Put receipts in and if you have had previous medicals due to age, tell them you wish to claim for those as well in a covering letter. It’s easy for them to check based on your age.

Ken.