Big Brummie Macca:
scotstrucker:
Big Brummie Macca:
I thought the straps were 5 tonne?straps come in various load ratings
I always thought the bigger ones like in the picture are rated at 5 tonne I know smaller ones are less as I used to use them in my van.
Yeah they are rated higher, but regardless of that he still hasn’t got enough of them. 
If it is 23 tonne I count seven straps, which would restrain 35 tonne am I understanding this right?
Being a newbie and only had to worry about securing stuff in the back of a van with a payload of around 1200kgs just want to know for the future
Big Brummie Macca:
If it is 23 tonne I count seven straps, which would restrain 35 tonne am I understanding this right?Being a newbie and only had to worry about securing stuff in the back of a van with a payload of around 1200kgs just want to know for the future
2 over the first block, 1 over the next block, 3 over the next and 1 over the back block 
nick2008:
SO IS THIS SAFE ■■?
Remembering that hooks aint load tested so how about the edge of the trailer ■■?
and thats 23t (not all on 1 strap of course )
I still say weve used this method for years and its as safe as it can ever be
Before you think I’m having a go, I’m not, as I’ve openly admitted to not securing stuff in rag-siders myself, BUT… shouldn’t there be some forward restraint on those blocks as well? You’ve got a large void in front of both sets of blocks and if you had to slam on from speed I personally think there’s a high risk of that first block demolishing the headboard and coming through the cab.
I certainly wouldn’t like to be in your shoes arguing the toss with a jobsworth VOSA bod about the adequacy of the load restraint you’ve used.
Big Brummie Macca:
2 over the first block, 1 over the next block, 3 over the next and 1 over the back block
I couldn’t even see the middle and end ones. I thought those bits were just dividers on the trailer. 
Wow did I just get one over the man who is always right 
Big Brummie Macca:
Wow did I just get one over the man who is always right
Can’t believe it myself. Going for a little lie down.
Rob K:
Big Brummie Macca:
Wow did I just get one over the man who is always right
From the pictures provided it still doesn’t look like anything is preventing forward movement if you have to stop sharp.
Headboards used to be used to stop forward movement, whether that was adjustable or the void blocked by baulks of timber.
I would have taken the load out like that, but the question about straps is necessary, VOSA have it in a book that was written in Australia. It is easier to strap the load than argue the toss in my opinion.
hope some of you will read through this might be of use to those who
like to keep their money in their pockets when working,
HERE
This below unfortunately is only to be had in German but you can look through and get
some info from the pictures worth a read
Rob K:
Grayham:
In my experience nets are secure enough on their own to hold bricks and blocksSo you’re confident that your net will hold all your bricks and blocks on if you roll it then?
if I rolled it the last thing I’d be worrying about is the (zb) bricks
Grayham:
Rob K:
Grayham:
In my experience nets are secure enough on their own to hold bricks and blocksSo you’re confident that your net will hold all your bricks and blocks on if you roll it then?
if I rolled it the last thing I’d be worrying about is the (zb) bricks
Being done for insecure load being the first thing then? 
waddy640:
waynedl:
Loaded a box last year with coat hangers… Not a heavy item…Went round a roundabout, noticed my trailer wheels weren’t touching the ground… The load had shifted and nearly took me over. And this was coat hangers…
Food for thought.
Go slower round roundabouts, it’s quicker than rolling over.
I was going slow, how else would I have recovered it in the very limited space of a round about?
The point was about the load shifting, not the speed I drive, coat hangers move easily, I don’t know how they were loaded or anything, I just know what happened.
A report was filed when I got back to the yard
Rob K:
Grayham:
Rob K:
Grayham:
In my experience nets are secure enough on their own to hold bricks and blocksSo you’re confident that your net will hold all your bricks and blocks on if you roll it then?
if I rolled it the last thing I’d be worrying about is the (zb) bricks
Being done for insecure load being the first thing then?
Probrably driving without due care and attention if I get it that wrong
Don’t worry as they cut me out the cab I’ll be sure to ask if the bricks are okay 
nothing will hold a load on in a roll over as the strengh of the trailer will change due to forces involved
You also have some instances where the driver is forbidden inside the warehouse so is unable to supervise or secure the load as it is loaded via the back doors ,on your curtain sider, and some trailers are loaded and are sealed and some of these company don’t supply drivers with straps, they way i see it if you are not able to secure the load ,then the company should be fined not the driver and none are fitted to the trailer’s,when working for a company who did supply straps i once picked up a load of steel tubing from france,it was loaded from above using a crane, some wooden skids put down first so they where able to get their slings out, all i could do is strap it,and use the planks that slot in the side posts,there was a gap between the steel tubing and bulkhead which i packed out with pallet’s so it wouldn’t move forwards if i had to brake suddenly i stopped several times to check the straps for looseness which there was a bit at first, the regular trucks have a rounded wedge wooden mold for the tubing to go in to so it is forced to stay in a bundle then i presume are strapped also ,
Enough on here?
elcamino:
hello,any one pls tell if im pulling a curtain sider with 24 palletts @ pallett size of around 2ft in height all clingfilmed up, do i still need to use straps as well to secure palletts??.. hearing allsorts saying VOSA will prosecute for not securing your load, even if the palletts weigh 100kg each…
No I would’nt,crack on!
They wont move unless you roll it,and if you do,insecure load will be the least of your problems.
bowserman:
Enough on here?
Id say just about bowser.That stuffs lethal.
regards dave.
