shuttlespanker:
ROG:
Am I right in saying that ANY wrong mode selected for other work, break or POA can be changed by making a manual entry at the time it happened ?How do you do that on an anologue tacho without taking the chart out then ROG?
Take out chart = perfectly legal to do so
happysack:
Yes, I used break. But poa exists now so I use it.I used to cook on a camping gas stove. I now have a microwave. Which should I warm tonights curry with?
I favour fiction tbh. One can generate quite a lot of heat by rolling ones sausage vigorously, however I think that method with curry would not produce the desired effect.
Friction is what you mean I think. I don’t microwave my sausage. I prefer gentle warming via friction for that!
ROG:
stevieboy308:
kitbuilder123:
Just to add another question and I hope the op doesn’t mind. If you drive 4.5 and take an hour break, can you use 45 of that hour for your first break and the remaining 15 to contribute to your second break? Therefore only needing a 30min break next?no
Because that 15 mins does not ‘interrupt’ the second piece of driving
I was in an RDC yesterday and was told which trailer I needed to take so I dropped mine and parked my unit opposite said trailer so I could see the traffic light and put it on break. After about 50 minutes someone came and informed me I was taking a different trailer so off I went and parked opposite that one. Put it back on break and 20 minutes passed before it was ready. Now I only needed a 30 minute break in the next 4.5/6 hour drive/work period but I’d only driven for a few seconds.
Tachograph says legal but would VOSA have a problem with this if they read my card.
Doh, fRiction! 
■■■■ these rubbish eyes.
Terry T:
ROG:
stevieboy308:
kitbuilder123:
Just to add another question and I hope the op doesn’t mind. If you drive 4.5 and take an hour break, can you use 45 of that hour for your first break and the remaining 15 to contribute to your second break? Therefore only needing a 30min break next?no
Because that 15 mins does not ‘interrupt’ the second piece of driving
I was in an RDC yesterday and was told which trailer I needed to take so I dropped mine and parked my unit opposite said trailer so I could see the traffic light and put it on break. After about 50 minutes someone came and informed me I was taking a different trailer so off I went and parked opposite that one. Put it back on break and 20 minutes passed before it was ready. Now I only needed a 30 minute break in the next 4.5/6 hour drive/work period but I’d only driven for a few seconds.
Tachograph says legal but would VOSA have a problem with this if they read my card.
legal, and no problem
Terry T:
I was in an RDC yesterday and was told which trailer I needed to take so I dropped mine and parked my unit opposite said trailer so I could see the traffic light and put it on break. After about 50 minutes someone came and informed me I was taking a different trailer so off I went and parked opposite that one. Put it back on break and 20 minutes passed before it was ready. Now I only needed a 30 minute break in the next 4.5/6 hour drive/work period but I’d only driven for a few seconds.Tachograph says legal but would VOSA have a problem with this if they read my card.
You had the tachograph on break for about 50 minutes which would have reset the allowed driving time back to 4½ hours, you then moved the vehicle and although you say the movement was only for a few seconds it would have been recorded as a minute or more on the tachograph, so the 20 minute break would count as the first part of a split driving break leaving you to have another 30 minute break to reset the driving time again.
Perfectly legal and there’s no reason why VOSA or anyone else should have a problem with it.
And drivers say the DCPC isn’t needed… 
Conor:
And drivers say the DCPC isn’t needed…
It isn’t needed. The op had a question relating to tachograph laws, came on here, asked his question and received not only the correct answer but lots of other useful information. Job sorted and £250 saved.
the maoster:
Conor:
And drivers say the DCPC isn’t needed…It isn’t needed. The op had a question relating to tachograph laws, came on here, asked his question and received not only the correct answer but lots of other useful information. Job sorted and £250 saved.
Not only that, but he didn’t have to come on here especially to check whether or not he’d been given correct information by a DCPC trainer as many others have had to.
As I’ve said before, if someone gets incorrect information here it’s pretty much guaranteed that someone will correct it, you can’t say the same about DCPC courses.
tachograph:
As I’ve said before, if someone gets incorrect information here it’s pretty much guaranteed that someone will correct it, you can’t say the same about DCPC courses.
Plus he doesn’t have to sit at the side of some t–t who loves the sound of his own voice holding the job up for everyone else 
Correct, but there are a lot of drivers who don’t come on here and there are a lot who don’t use a computer, and the DPC is still a good idea badly implemented, very badly.
happysack:
But why not use poa. Keep the working time down? Unless the op works for tin pot outfit that doesn’t pay poa?
I don’t and have never used or seen the need nor use for POA. I’m either driving, working or having a break. I get paid for all hours worked.
tachograph:
Terry T:
I was in an RDC yesterday and was told which trailer I needed to take so I dropped mine and parked my unit opposite said trailer so I could see the traffic light and put it on break. After about 50 minutes someone came and informed me I was taking a different trailer so off I went and parked opposite that one. Put it back on break and 20 minutes passed before it was ready. Now I only needed a 30 minute break in the next 4.5/6 hour drive/work period but I’d only driven for a few seconds.Tachograph says legal but would VOSA have a problem with this if they read my card.
You had the tachograph on break for about 50 minutes which would have reset the allowed driving time back to 4½ hours, you then moved the vehicle and although you say the movement was only for a few seconds it would have been recorded as a minute or more on the tachograph, so the 20 minute break would count as the first part of a split driving break leaving you to have another 30 minute break to reset the driving time again.
Perfectly legal and there’s no reason why VOSA or anyone else should have a problem with it.
I thought this was frowned upon because the brief period of driving is not on the public highway.
What would stop a driver starting in the morning, doing their walkround checks then driving across the yard just enough to record driving, grab a 15 whilst having a cuppa. That would allow a driver to do 8:59 of driving with only a 30 minute break in it?
mucker85:
tachograph:
Terry T:
I was in an RDC yesterday and was told which trailer I needed to take so I dropped mine and parked my unit opposite said trailer so I could see the traffic light and put it on break. After about 50 minutes someone came and informed me I was taking a different trailer so off I went and parked opposite that one. Put it back on break and 20 minutes passed before it was ready. Now I only needed a 30 minute break in the next 4.5/6 hour drive/work period but I’d only driven for a few seconds.Tachograph says legal but would VOSA have a problem with this if they read my card.
You had the tachograph on break for about 50 minutes which would have reset the allowed driving time back to 4½ hours, you then moved the vehicle and although you say the movement was only for a few seconds it would have been recorded as a minute or more on the tachograph, so the 20 minute break would count as the first part of a split driving break leaving you to have another 30 minute break to reset the driving time again.
Perfectly legal and there’s no reason why VOSA or anyone else should have a problem with it.
I thought this was frowned upon because the brief period of driving is not on the public highway.
What would stop a driver starting in the morning, doing their walkround checks then driving across the yard just enough to record driving, grab a 15 whilst having a cuppa. That would allow a driver to do 8:59 of driving with only a 30 minute break in it?
I didn’t say it was a good idea just that it’s legal 
Actually i think you’ll find that the idea of the second part of a split break being 30 minutes is to stop people doing 8:59 with only a 15 minute break.